I just noticed now this topic. And I remember I saw a post once ago made by them, talking about these hardware wallets used by them during raffles. After some research I found the respective post, which was made on Arpil 11th, 2023:


However, I found another post made from their secondary account, stating something a little contradictory...


So at some point in time, this personalisation of the products was possible, then it was not possible anymore... (or, maybe, it was not possible anymore in some conditions which they agreed on?). In any case, the source of  the Ledgers should be now clear (based on their statement, at least): they bought them a while ago, for their employees so this is why they had a remaining stash which was offered through raffles or other contests.

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I won 3 such Ledgers from Betnomi. In my case all 3 were shipped by minerjones. And all arrived in perfect condition.

I rented my signature starting August 9th.

Thanks for your input, dear fillippone. I did not want to use names as I did not know if you (or others) would feel comfortable if I did it. However, it is useful that someone else joined this discussion and supported the issues I raised above and also in the past.

At the moment, there are more than 550 users which keep their funds as deposits inside notes and I believe that some of them are also forum users. Perhaps someone else could also intervene and tell us if he received the payments correctly (meaning everyday and the correct amount) or not...? Or if he received other information through emails from WhirlWind...?

The problem is not that big in my case, at least, as I do not have a huge amount stored. Perhaps I would have reacted differently if I stashed there 1-2-3-4-5 BTC. But, however, it is not normal what is happening. Someone should come with an explanation... At least it would be common sense to do that.

Multumim pentru informatii, UniJoin! Am actualizat topicul cu noile pictograme care, dupa parerea mea, arata foarte bine si dau o nota proaspata descrierii voastre. Totusi, aceste pictograme contin texte in engleza. Credeti ca puteti sa le actualizati cumva si pentru romana? Sau, de fapt, pentru toate limbile in care a fost tradus acest topic? Daca ati putea realiza aceasta modificare ar fi super!

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Aditional, verificati cand aveti timp ultimul mesaj de la mine. Voi posta si articolele publicate pe blogul vostru, insa am nevoie de cateva informatii din partea voastra pentru a intelege exact ce doriti sa mai postez aici.

After a while the problem resolved on my side as well and I can access again the Tor version of the website. Clearnet version is still down though.

However, this is not my main problem.


^This is my main problem.

Since I joined this anonymity mining campaign I never cashed out anything from my note. And, after first 2-3 weeks, when I admit that I did not check thoroughly everyday my balance for observing if I received or not the daily reward, after that I started doing it on a daily basis.

However, I started doing it on a daily basis because I believe that during first weeks I did not always receive the daily reward. However, since I can not say that I checked properly, I am also not 100% sure about this. But after this while I checked my balance everyday, I wrote down the existing balance, I checked in the next day if my balance was bigger and with what amount and I also checked if that amount was correct.

I noticed some irregularities since I started doing this.

So first of all, I did not receive everyday the daily reward. In some cases -- but not always in the next day I got a double reward. Another curious problem was the fact that my reward was not always an amount slightly raising from a day to another. Let's say that today I was supposed to receive 1000 sats/day as a reward. If today I got 1000 sats then tomorrow it should be a greater reward, as the reward applies to the existent amount. However, it should not be a big difference. But during all this time since I kept the rewards under severe scrutiny I noticed that in a day I was getting a reward, in the next day I was getting a reward smaller with a few hundred sats, next day I was getting a reward greater with a few hundred sats, next day I got again the correct amount, then again a smaller one then again one a bit higher and so on.

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On June 14th I wrote to Whirlwind and I kindly asked them to check in which days I did not receive the rewards between May 17th (the day I joined the anonymity campaign) and June 14th. They told me that they make manual payments and this is why some errors appear but they always resolve them -- so, in case the person in charge with the payments forgot to pay you today then tomorrow you will get a double payment. This was not always happening.

They also told me that they will make this check for the rewards I received until then and they'll come back with a report. The report was not sent until current day.

Excepting that, since that day I kept emailing them each time when the daily reward was not sent again. Their last reply to my emails was on June 25th. Since then I emailed them 5 more times, informing that the daily reward was not sent again but they never replied anymore. I also asked in some of these emails how much it's going to take until they'll come with that report. Since they never replied anymore, I also have no idea about that.

In any case, this problem is not a singular. I know other forum users which also did not receive their daily rewards or which did not receive the right amounts.

Right now, this is the second consecutive day when the daily reward is not sent. I guess that if WhirlWind wants to act in a professional manner, first of all they should be more present on the forum and also be supportive when customers ask for their help through emails...

I was wondering if we could add also this thread to the list of topics to be translated:

Campaign to improve posting quality for local boards

At least, those interested in contributing to the improvement of quality in their local boards can act by working on this topic. However, the translation should not be a literal one, but an adapted one. Meaning that the translators should add, eventually, some materials from their language inside the translation, present what should be improved, what should be avoided and so on. For this reason, such a translation is a complex one, as it represents, in fact, the creation of a different topic in the respective local board and the issues presented in the topic should match the issues from the respective local board.

For example, when I and 1miau made translations of this topic in Romanian and German boards we mentioned the problems of "Romglish" and "Denglish", which are a monster killer of the mother language, by mixing English with Romanian and, respectively, with German. This is not natural and, in decades, it will only alter the language.

So if anyone is interested, the following form should be filled:


If anyone is curious how such translation should be like, feel free to take a look at existent translations:

Then perhaps this also the right moment to remind to all users of this topic that they can show their involvement too by translating and adapting this topic in their local boards:


The highlighted part is crucial, as in this case it is not needed a literal translation of this topic, but one adapted to the customs and idiom of each language. I will also make this suggestion to AOBT group and maybe we'll get some support from there as well.

For those interested to see how such adapted topic looks like they can take a look at the existing translations:


And, speaking of that, I was wondering if 1miau could add these translations to the OP?

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I am very sorry to hear how things are working inside German board. For sure, the situation does not look good. The mod from that section should act with a strong hand against spam -- or, in case the workload is too much for him, perhaps he can ask for some help...?

I think that a very important aspect is the fact that other people are also seeing a big problem in altering mother languages with English. Perhaps such people are everywhere in the world, talking about best ways to preserve their languages... Another important aspect is to have literate people among those trying to keep their languages safe. People with high education are needed -- linguists, academicians, that kind of people which are iconic figures in their countries and which may influence others to the right thing.

So it's good to see that such movements are happening also in the rest of the world, outside this forum. Practically, with our campaign, we only got in line with linguists, teachers and other literate people which try together to preserve their languages and which vouch for correct use of the mother languages!

Obrigado bitmover por envolver esta causa e por partilhar a sabedoria de Tim May entre os falantes de lingua portuguesa! Este ensaio é uma ilustração maravilhosa do trabalho de Tim May, e é incrível como seus pensamentos, expressos há mais de 30 anos, agora fazem parte de nossa realidade.

A quem ainda não leu o manifesto, sugiro que o leia. É curto e contém tantos valores...

Tim May era um visionário e fazia parte do núcleo do movimento Cypherpunk. Graças ao seu trabalho, agora temos acesso a criptografia livre, comunicações privadas e Bitcoin. Satoshi foi, talvez, um dos últimos Cypherpunks. Os trabalhos deles o inspiraram e o ajudaram a desenvolver esta incrível invenção chamada Bitcoin.

Hey SmartGold01!


You are very welcome


I really appreciate all the respect you are having and the kind words. The issue is another one though. I don't know if you ever noticed this, but on this forum, usually, all the Newbies looking for merits, all the shit-posters and all the ones spamming the forum for reaching their campaign quota use the terms "Sir", "boss" etc. So having to deal with many of these I can tell you that no normal forum user likes these names. I understand, you want to respect everybody (and, of course to be respected back). However, a better approach is to call the name directly -- be it Gazeta or fillippone or anyone else.

Your good intentions may be misunderstood... Does this make sense, after my explanation? And okay, I understand that you are a very respectful person but others may tend to see you as one of the categories I mentioned above if you'll keep using "Sir" or "boss" or "mister" everywhere.

Just act normally, like you would be talking to some colleagues Keep a normal attitude. I hope this helps.

If the respective local board is not active, perhaps you are both right about the (lack of) utility of translating these topics in your language.

babygun, however, if you are passionate about translations or if you think that one of my topics would be useful to Dutch local board, you may give it a try. After all, you can see if the new topic would get some attention from Dutch forum users. From my perspective, I have nothing against this. But, of course, it's up to you. No pressure here.

I tried today to access the Tor version of the website but it says "The connection has timed out". Besides, the clearnet version of the website is down for about 2 weeks now. Does anyone else encounter this issue?

Hey there! Thank you for your interest in translating my topics! However, I am afraid that all the topics from OP are already translated in Pidgin. You observed well that "almost all were already translated" -- in fact, absolutely all were already translated... I announced this here:



If you are interested in doing other translations for your local board, try to work on fillippone's topics. As far as I see there are still 3 topics listed there which are not translated yet in Pidgin language. I hope this helps.

Oh and by the way -- do not call me "Sir" (I am sure that fillippone would also appreciate if you will not call him "Sir".)

Avem concurs nou!

[FREE RAFFLE]523rd - ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD-CYPHER HODL LOADED BALLET
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462261

Se pot castiga urmatoarele: un card Cypher Hodl incarcat cu 0.00005 BTC.


Organizator: krogothmanhattan

Poate participa oricine, daca s-a inregistrat inainte de 1 iulie.
Modalitate de inscriere: se alege un numar de la 00 la 99 (care nu a fost deja rezervat).
Transportul: gratuit in SUA; pentru restul lumii se va discuta cu minerjones.

Concursul este identic cu cele anterior realizate de OP.

Can you try reading my PM from a PC or a laptop instead of a mobile? I already deleted the PM from my Outbox and I would prefer to not have to write it once more. Let me know if the message appears okay when viewing it from a PM.

I have a small calendar at home, that kind where you remove the files as days pass. On one side of its files you can find important events which occurred in the past, while on the back side you may find some very interesting short writings. By pure chance, after I removed a file of this calendar I found an article on its page, which relates so much to our campaign of improving the posts quality in our local boards. And this campaign, in fact, vouches for the correct use of our mother languages.

The author of the article is unknown, signing it as "T.C.Z.". But, whoever this T.C.Z., is, he is so right with what he's saying!

I tried to translate the small article below, adapting as much as I could the Romanian idiomatic words in English. Although I could not fully adapt it, as some words make sense only in Romanian, I believe everybody will get the meaning.


Maybe this text would determine all of us to try to use our languages more correctly...

Am acasa un calendar, din care rupi fiulele pe masura ce trec zilele. Pe antetul foilor sunt date interesante petrecute in zilele respective iar pe verso, de multe ori, se regasesc articole interesante. Am gasit intamplator un astfel de articol, care are legatura cu campania de imbunatatire a calitatii postarilor in sectiunile locale, campanie ce se refera, in principiu, la folosirea corecta a limbii materne.

Nu stiu cine este autorul articolului, acesta semnand cu "T.C.Z.". Dar, indiferent cine este acest T.C.Z., are mare dreptate cu ce spune!

Iata, mai jos, continutul micului articol de pe pagina de calendar:

Indeed, I also believe that the fans of collectibles would be very interested about these cards. Regarding the possibility of sweeping them, considering the value of 0.001 BTC, I would not be tempted to move the funds from such card, if I were the owner of it. However, those fearing of being "yogged" may try this as well. But the value is not too big, at least now (perhaps I would have a different mindset if BTC would reach $1M ) so I would take the risk and keep the card as it is. The scenario of having the cards swept by someone else is a very unlikely one, but everyone is free to have a different opinion here.


It will be up to the winners to decide how they'll proceed. But I would keep the card like it is. It is really nice to have Bitcoin-related collectibles and I am always trying to improve my collection.


That makes two of us!

And I thank you for inspiring me with the essay you wrote before mine, The Cypherpunk Manifesto!


Much appreciated, bitmover! It is very important to spread among many languages these historic documents which opened the path for free cryptography, private communications and, ultimately, for Bitcoin!

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These documents are also very important for all those which shared Cypherpunk's vision and ideology. I read them both in the past, but I could not find True Nyms online... But I knew there was a book containing this essay. I am talking about Vernor Vinge's True Names and I searched a lot for finding this book. May's True Nyms is in the opening of the book and I was really fascinated while reading his essay.

But thank you for sharing this online version of this essay, which I could never find before!

One new translation has been added to OP:

• The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto - We all should read it was translated in French by iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2: Le Manifeste Crypto-anarchiste - Nous devrions tous le lire

Besides, a Portuguese adaptation was made recently by bitmover: O Manifesto Cripto Anarquista. This is not a translation per se, but an adaptation containing the entire manifesto.

Thank you iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 for your endless dedication in translating my topics!

And thank you bitmover for joining this cause and spreading the word inside Portuguese board about this very important historic document!.