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301  Economy / Exchanges / Re: HitBTC is a Joke! Next level of scamming! on: January 24, 2018, 09:20:20 PM
There are no fees to deposit as their support page shows and If that was the case, they should've stated it before you deposit clearly. It's possible that your coins went missing due to a technical issue.

today I wanted to deposit some CND coins, but then I have seen the DEPOSIT FEE was 511 CND that's worth $143

I think they want to close their business very fast.
302  Economy / Exchanges / Re: A working cryto debit card? on: January 24, 2018, 04:50:10 PM
I guess there are always BTC to Paypal options but fees with that method re obnoxious.

Cex.io also allows withdrawal to credit card but with some verification.

dunno how sending money to credit card works, and if my normal credit cards support it, or if ANY credit card can accept money
303  Economy / Exchanges / Re: A working cryto debit card? on: January 24, 2018, 02:05:35 PM
Cant believe such a HUGE market s being uncovered for such a long time. What a market niche this is.

Because there are no others. There are no plan B. I dont know why every one of them states that.
Even if there were, this plan would already be screwed over by VISA, since its against their policies with the deal between MC/VISA.

All this shit started 3-4 years ago, when NETELLER and Skrill was starting to support crypto.

People started using it to withdraw for a month or two
Then Skrill/Neteller informed everyone that you could only use deposited crypto to send to other stores, and not withdraw from cards (that was easy to bypass though)


But why did skrill and neteller make this rule? Obviously their Net+ mastercard was informed to stop supporting crypto. Nothing else. So when people say this is not an attack on crypto, i dont know what else it is? The let skrill/neteller keep their cards.
After 3-6 months, they shut down the possibility to deposit BTC again. Someone has told them to do this. This someone was probably VISA, who already then threatned them.

And you all know what the rest of the story... First VISA shut down everything... Then mastercard was restricted to only SEPA......then short time after, shut down worldwide.

Someone out there does not like Mastercard or VISA to support crypto. Someone with alot power.

this.

did not know neteller skrill story, but I agree 100% with you, sadly.
I am very angry because this war started just as soon as I entered the market. i did not use my bank ATM in the last month thanks to bitcoins. And now it's all over, if I want some btc converted, I'll have to use Coinbase and my bank again, with all slowness and risks involved. Or I'll have to ask to my favourite strip clubs if they accept bitcoins, don't think so.

for all other please express your vote in my poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2812087.0
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Deposit fees Why High in Hitbtc? on: January 24, 2018, 01:54:18 PM
to deposit CND coin, simething like $140. That's insane!
305  Economy / Exchanges / Re: HitBTC.com - The most advanced cryptocurrency exchange on: January 24, 2018, 01:37:36 PM
Wanted to deposit some CND coins.
I've seen DEPOSIT fee it's 500+ coins.
after a bit of calculations, it's something like $140 to deposit.
THAT'S RIDICOLOUS!!!

How can this be acceptable? this exchange will die soon.
306  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Advcash | a new "anonymous" bitcoin debit card [EUR & USD] on: January 24, 2018, 01:34:51 PM
I think they really did not know
307  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Advcash | a new "anonymous" bitcoin debit card [EUR & USD] on: January 24, 2018, 11:29:21 AM
You guys seem to have missed this:

"All plastic and virtual cards will be reissued for free after we implement the card platform from our new provider which is about to happen soon."

Let's wait then, and see, I'll write to the support today about this and see what they reply (which provider? Estimate date?).
For now, we have time to withdraw and find a back up solution in case we need one.

In fact, I think all people saying it's "a disaster" have not understood that the failure point is most probably Wavescrest, as it happend before with Visa cards all around. I think they will shortly find a replacement processor.



instead, you are not considering that, if there was ONLY one issuer, a single point of failure in the entire world, probably there was a reason.
Do you really believe that as of a sudden, another provider will be found, and no one in the entire world has been able to find one in the last months?
Consider that visa cards gad been shut down for no-sepa in august. And nothing has been done since then.

anyway if you like espress your vote in my poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2812087.0  thanks
308  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Advcash | a new "anonymous" bitcoin debit card [EUR & USD] on: January 24, 2018, 01:36:40 AM
This is catastrophic....
309  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Poll: Do you think a new plastic card issuer will be found after wavecrest off? on: January 23, 2018, 08:52:11 PM
I think solution will not be so easy.

If I understood correctly, VISA were shut down outside SEPA since August, and nothing has been done in 5 months.

I've a bad feeling
310  Economy / Exchanges / Poll: Do you think a new plastic card issuer will be found after wavecrest off? on: January 23, 2018, 07:36:44 PM
Thanks for your opinions
311  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Advcash | a new "anonymous" bitcoin debit card [EUR & USD] on: January 23, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
Their MasterCards have just been terminated by Wavecrest:

Quote
23 January 2018
Closure of the Wave Crest Card Program

Unfortunately we have to let you know that Wave Crest, our current card solution provider, is unilaterally shutting down our card program. New virtual and plastic cards are no longer issued to any users whether or not they are EEA/SEPA area residents.

 

Please make sure you have read and understood the info below:

 

- you will not be able to fund currently active plastic and virtual cards after Feb 9, 2018

- all existing plastic and virtual cards will be closed on March 27, 2018

- currently ATM withdrawals are allowed with a daily limit of EUR 1000 / USD 1000 in SEPA countries and EUR 500 / USD 500 outside the SEPA zone

- there are no new limits concerning POS transactions in shops

 

All plastic and virtual cards will be reissued for free after we implement the card platform from our new provider which is about to happen soon.

 

We appreciate your understanding and cooperation and we apologise for any inconvenience caused.


this is a tragic news to me. It was my only way of converting/spending around a bit of cryptos.
Now I have to decide before 9th of feb how much I want to convert until 27 of march...
312  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Visa crackdown on bitcoin debit card providers - Jan 2018 on: January 23, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
this is the worst news you could give to me, now i am in a real trouble!
313  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Whats your opinion about btc debits card future? We have any alternative now? on: January 19, 2018, 11:33:18 PM
are you serious?
I know this goes against crypto ideology, but I think cryptos have only to say thanks to those services that give an immediate usefulness to BTC.
Should I, for the love of technology, use something that costs me $20 on every money transfer, and at least 20 minutes?

I don't think so.

The fees were never that high, they became like this in the last few weeks/months while these services existed for some years now and they will be fixed. Everyone is free to use whatever he wants really but I see no use for Bitcoin If you're willing to to give your personal information's etc. just to use bitcoin. I rather wait more services to implement SegWit then doing this.
There is a debit card that I found about just last night for crypto in which it uses the lightening network.
But with segwit almost all of the older ones have done the switch over already including Wirex.
https://wirexapp.com/segwit-bitcoin-wallet-update



I had a wirex card. It lasted 10 days, then disabled like all others.
please try again  Smiley
314  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Whats your opinion about btc debits card future? We have any alternative now? on: January 17, 2018, 01:54:46 PM

The fees were never that high, they became like this in the last few weeks/months while these services existed for some years now and they will be fixed. Everyone is free to use whatever he wants really but I see no use for Bitcoin If you're willing to to give your personal information's etc. just to use bitcoin. I rather wait more services to implement SegWit then doing this.

anyway, if you want to buy a sandwich with bitcoin, or also pay an hooker like Mcafee, we need those services.

nothing represented to me the real value of a bitcoin, like when the first money came out of an ATM. That was a milestone for me.

And, I am not an anomity paranoid. If I was, i'd use other king of coins specifically made for that
315  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Whats your opinion about btc debits card future? We have any alternative now? on: January 17, 2018, 11:53:18 AM
We're good this way and in my opinion, this just proves that people doesn't care about the technology but rather they want to get rich quickly and they will sell everything they have when time comes because If not, how would you explain people using Bitcoin because of the transaction fees, anonymity, speed etc. using these cards which are directly related to the banking system that represents the total opposite of bitcoin. I don't support them but as an alternative, you have UQUID or If you're from the U.S, there is Bitpay card.

are you serious?
I know this goes against crypto ideology, but I think cryptos have only to say thanks to those services that give an immediate usefulness to BTC.
Should I, for the love of technology, use something that costs me $20 on every money transfer, and at least 20 minutes?

I don't think so.
316  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Mistertango - Bitcoin friendly European Bank Account + free MasterCard on: January 08, 2018, 06:39:51 PM
Does this service offer a "bitcoin wallet" with ability to convert BTC-fiat on the fly only when needed?

I want to know to answer as well, planning to get a mistertango card, but still no idea how to send bitcoin to mistertango account as there is no such info on it.

Anyone?


EDIT: Okay, I just registered an acccount and saw the BTC → EUR bitcoin address on right top.

ok, but can you decide to keep BTC or they are converted as soon es you deposit them?
317  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 2017 Bitcoin Debit Card Reviews on: January 08, 2018, 06:37:31 PM
Until now, I only did 2 ATM withdrawals, no POS use.

Don't think there is a way to avoid the fees. I try to load medium-large amounts. their rates are slightly better than wirex ones, but wirex had a much better interface
318  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Advcash | a new "anonymous" bitcoin debit card [EUR & USD] on: January 08, 2018, 03:44:53 PM
How do you guys experience the functions of ADVCash today?

Used it for a long time in the SEPA.

At the moment I am unable to withdraw money from the european ATM's, today I was able to do one withdrawl with a maximum of 250 eur (before 2x 1500 daily). The last days I was not able to withdraw more than 250 a day before an error at the popped up to contact my card supllier.

Normally the ADV support was lightningfast but now they haven't responded to my ticket for over 2 days, their service is 'unavailable' by phone.

I should not be affected by the mastercard issue due to being in the EU, what is your recent experience with ADV?



  

this not sounds good to me.
I made an ATM withdraw saturday, but it was only 200 so I dunno for higher values. Later I'll try to withdraw 400
319  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 2017 Bitcoin Debit Card Reviews on: January 08, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
I use the card since 10 days ago, loaded 2 times with a few hundreds of euros and works, I don't like the immediate fiat conversion of all funds. But exchange rates look slightly better than wirex rates

Sorry but which exactly card are you referring to?

Advcash
320  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 2017 Bitcoin Debit Card Reviews on: January 08, 2018, 11:25:33 AM
I use the card since 10 days ago, loaded 2 times with a few hundreds of euros and works, I don't like the immediate fiat conversion of all funds. But exchange rates look slightly better than wirex rates
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