And this is exactly why regulators are going to argue Bitcoin has no consumer protection, unlike the major credit card companies. The people who paid these guys in Bitcoin can easily get screwed over.

wikipedia disagrees with you, sir.

return on investment (%) = (Net profit / Investment) × 100

gold/euro/chickens all have value.  I know chickens were meant as a joke but still laws on books about them.  Bitcoin is not a official currency in US, and since virtual will be interesting to see how it goes.

Are you hiring a lawyer who specializes in anything, or law firm with multiple?  What type of lawyer accepted the case?

Yes, there are paragraphs there now....  

Sorry bro, done, was typing on the train home.

We all should really stop with this preorder shit. Its nothing else then free loan to the company. If company has a solid plan worth risking, then go to the bank and ask for loan.
In earlier blackarrow explanation I have noticed that he speaks of btc price implying it will rose among the difficulty. That was adsressed milion of times; then we are better of just buying and holding bitcoins at today market price.

Same port for either proxy, 8332

Also if it matters: BFG is given -u worker.name -p pass and the blade is using worker.name2 same password.

I also tried them both being the same with no luck.

Trying to use BFG miner as a getwork proxy to see how it compares to other options. Can't get blades to connect.. must be doing something wrong. I read the documentation and all it says is to run with the --http-port option. Here's how I've tried it:

bfgminer -o url:port -u workername -p password --http-port xxxx

this loads up just fine. the blade is setup to point to the system running bfgminer. bfg never sees a connection. if i close bfg and load the other proxy, the blade connects. This is the win32 version.

What am I doing wrong?

why not?

you guys are all a bunch of fucking idiots if you believe that, TH pulled at least half a mil $ out of bitcoin/wire payments alone. What have they actually used the money for? a couple steel boxes, handful of half working boards, oh and a few boxes of resistors/wires that cost pennies.  They never invested this money in anything, it doesnt take a genius to figure this out, and if you are really that dense just look at the chips that got sent in - if they were really ready just missing the avalon shipment, those chips should be turned around in days instead of silence.  How else would they expect to make 40k chips worth of orders.

they scammed your money and is not giving it back, all the bullshit about hosting and refund after 3 month etc.. is exactly that...bs.

Like watching a train wreck, i just cant turn away.  Are people really this fucking stupid, if you are out of 4 figures i would be filing for legal action weeks ago.

truth is, although Im worried about my investment, Im worried about the founders of TH as well.  you can all be as cold about money as you want, but there is probably equal chance that this lack of communication could have been caused by personal tragedy

AWESOME SAUCE! NOW I GET IT!

...it's almost like I didn't say all of this half an hour ago in this very thread...

Great point! Wish I'd thought of it...

Okay I had to save it to another directory to get it to save and I got this:

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{
"pools" : [
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334",
      "user" : "<user>",
      "pass" : "<password>",
      "pool-priority" : "0"
   },
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334",
      "user" : "<user>",
      "pass" : "<password>",
      "pool-priority" : "1"
   }
]
,
"temp-cutoff" : "95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95,95",
"temp-target" : "89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89,89",
"algo" : "fastauto",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "120",
"expiry-lp" : "3600",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"no-show-processors" : true,
"no-show-procs" : true,
"no-unicode" : true,
"queue" : "9",
"scan-time" : "60",
"skip-security-checks" : "0",
"submit-stale" : true,
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/share/bfgminer"
}

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Thanks guys

That would be because sudo executes as root and would be saving it under root's directory.  Try just running the bfgminer command without using sudo.

The possibility can certainly go either way -- the probability is that they likely have an on board regulator. Perhaps that helps explain my text-based tone better.

If I am wrong, I will certainly tip my hat your way.

No I haven't worked an electronics assembly line, nor have I managed an electronics-production line, nor have I done large scale electronics design. I have overseen mass distribution though. I have designed circuitry. These guys make it a business to do the same, and from what hints they've dropped, they appear to have gone the route I suspect.

Again as mentioned previously, their profit margin is well over 50%, likely 70% for these units. They're not too worried about their cost. They already have the boards, and are tested. This eliminates production time as a factor for delivery. They stated the only power connections would be PCIE. This hints there will be on board regulation.

So whether I've worked or designed as you propose is moot, especially if my understanding of their hints is correct.

The cost of a DC:DC regulator, especially by the reel, is on the order of pennies, or fractions of a penny depending on what you get. They already said the only power connections to be made will be PCIE. They're going with a KIS method for this. Plugging up an extra power cord adds complexity and time, especially for rig-testing. I'd wager they're willing to spend the .005 cents on the PCB components for onboard power.

I wasn't trying to be rude, I just look at it differently. My take is to simplify things, they would have an onboard power source for the BB.

It shows enabled.  Now when I go to start bfgminer I get error

./bfgminer: error while loading shared libraries: libmicrohttpd.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory