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1  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] YOLOdice.com Signature Campaign on: July 12, 2018, 05:35:59 AM
BitcoinTalk username: zentdex
YOLOdice user id: 173389
Forum rank: Full Member
Current post count: 319
2  Other / Meta / Re: Going beyond post counts on: July 06, 2018, 02:00:17 AM
In my own observation, some of the newbie accounts are an alt account. They focus on leveling up the account rather than to give valuable answer or suggestions to other users.
3  Other / Meta / Re: Signature Campaign which pays for merits? on: July 04, 2018, 01:33:22 AM
I think this idea could be a great help for those who are in the lower rank that is striving hard to earn merit.
But, does it seems like selling merit indirectly? All I am hoping is for the greater good and not opposing the idea.
4  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard on: June 09, 2018, 04:52:07 AM
Freaking awesome job! And now I see stats that are so dynamic that enable other users to interact with it.
I even spent almost half an hour exploring, filtering, searching, sorting and extracting meaningful information.
Those cool merit network diagrams complete it all. I have fun dragging around the nodes. Thanks for creating this.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.8 (Windows/Linux) on: June 07, 2018, 04:44:14 PM
~snip

Good to see it works great!
I am planning to upgrade to Adrenaline 18.5.2 and Claymore 11.8, but I have doubts that there could be no significant hash rate bumps.
Do your hash rate increase or it remains the same?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.8 (Windows/Linux) on: June 06, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Any feedback about the new Adrenalin Edition 18.5 in RX 580s and 570s running Claymore's Dual Ethereum GPU Miner v11.8 in Win10?
Does any hash rate increase observe? tnx.
7  Other / Meta / Re: Merit System: the true value behind it on: June 06, 2018, 04:50:03 PM
~snip

Good point kid! Hope you'll become a better salesman someday.
I'll bet you could solve someone's problem by looking at the best perspective that could be beneficial to both.
8  Other / Meta / Re: Celebrating my 0 to 100+ merits and demonstrations of impact on: May 31, 2018, 01:32:16 PM
Congratulations. Nice list and effort. Copper member included?
9  Other / Meta / Re: Merit network analysis: merit rank distribution and satellites on: May 31, 2018, 03:02:33 AM
Nice graphical representation. Can I know what application you use to do that? I just wondering, will it be more informative if those lines have legends?
10  Other / Meta / Re: 100 Days of Merit on: May 21, 2018, 05:10:05 PM
~snip

Thank you. It continuously decreasing indeed.

~snip

Yes, information here could be theoretically correct.

This quote is alarming. It's like when data scientist (zentdex) is telling to CEO(theymos) that something goes terribly wrong.

Just a clarification, I am not telling that there are something wrong about it. It could maybe go according to their plan.


I believe the price of bitcoin itself is the only contributing factor to new accounts, especially because most newbies don't know about or understand the merit system. When you compare the peak dates on the merit implementation chart, they align rather well to bitcoin price spikes.

Good observation, I have draft to do your observation and I see some probability.
I better study and create something like that.

I think we need more Merit Sources, trustful ones (maybe the own mods) to encourage good posters to keep going. This is kind of unfair to make a real effort and can't rank up due to the lack of merits, either in your local board or in the English one.

Yes I think we need more merit source and more merit giver...

Frankly, the work done with all these graphics is just amazing.
For me, it just lacks a graph with the places of the forum where merits are most given.
Let me explain, there is some local (where people speak little or bad English, like me), where the merits have all been given for over a month already and where it becomes difficult to win again .

I forgot to include those; Actually, I have done it before in Where the Merit Pours?

Good thing exist because of bad things.

I agree with that notion.

so perhaps Theymos is hoping that merit starvation will help to improve the quality of posting.

Maybe, no one knows what are the other plans of theymos in this merit system

I am happy to see that newbies are also getting good number of merits. They need it the most. If I have to choose one post with equal weightage to merit, I will give it to newbie over an old member.

Regarding the merits for staffs, that figure appears very low. Does it include the merits they got on official thread like one related to merit system itself  ?

I try to check the figure but, yes those are right. However, merits on the first three days were excluded.

~snip

Yes, it could be a factor.
11  Other / Meta / Re: Global structure of merit networks on: May 17, 2018, 01:00:34 PM
Magnificent!
I can't imagine how you able to create something like that.
Is it possible to add time stamps per frame...
12  Other / Meta / Re: 100 Days of Merit on: May 17, 2018, 09:55:37 AM
We have noticed before that some users send 50 merits to a nonsense post and I think some of them are now very careful in sending their sMerits which is a good thing. They are somehow forced to find a bit of quality in a post. Your efforts are appreciated. Keep up the good work.

Thank you. You are right, the number of member who give 50 merits in a single transaction decreases.

Seems obvious to me that this doesn't represent distinct entities but rather just new accounts--multiple accounts of people.
Nice data presentation, OP.

That is also what comes in my mind when I have see the values. But just like you said, it will be hard to determine which are alt accounts even considering IP. Thank you.

What activity number are you using for heros to rank up?
775 or 1030 or somewhere in between?

I use 1030, because It's really hard to pinpoint which is which.

some of them are afk/don't care

I'm with you by that. There are estimated more than 1,000 accounts who received merits but did not give back enough to others.

I would be interested to see how long their posts are compared to others (specifically those who are one rank higher), where these accounts tend to post (what sections), if these people are participating in any kind of advertising campaigns, how much trust these people have sent/received.

Good suggestion, thank you for that. It could took me a longer time to do that and may require a greater computing power.


So, why not publicly publish datasets?
~snip
Because the dataset is not what other user expected to be. I could be more harder to understand. For example, I have a separate table for user id and name, another for merit, another for post, activity and rank, another one for dates, table for who send and who received among others. I then create a queries to see what I am looking.


Is it possible to look at the average amount of merit given, per transaction? I'd like to see if there's a correlation between rank and the people who are gifting merit to friends or alt accounts.
Parameters likely need to include:
  • Average of merit given per transaction, by rank level
  • Being able to look at that average over shorter time frames would be useful (a week or 14 days maybe), the longer the duration the more likely the 1 merit transactions will dull the results, we're looking for spikes
  • Can we isolate transactions by forum board? Some boards are more likely to have these questionable transactions (e.g., alternative currencies, local, etc.)
  • We should isolate the received side of the transaction, an alt account is more likely to receive transactions that are arbitrary gifts than due to genuine quality of their posts - obviously just an unsupported hunch on my part
  • Exclude people who've never given any merit


  • Average amount of merit given, per transaction?  - 2.16 with deviation of 3.97
  • Average of merit given per transaction, by rank level - see table above
  • Can we isolate transactions by forum board? Some boards are more likely to have these questionable transactions (e.g., alternative currencies, local, etc.) - It is possible, but what is the purpose of isolating those boards?
  • We should isolate the received side of the transaction, an alt account is more likely to receive transactions that are arbitrary gifts than due to genuine quality of their posts - obviously just an unsupported hunch on my part -I have stat that dived those two. see II. Giver and Receiver. But I can't isolate those who are alts because I have no further info who among are alts 
  • Exclude people who've never given any merit - It is already excluded

Thank you for your suggestions.

I completely appreciate this STATS from the OP. I hope that some important statistics from this forum will show up lately.

Thank you for your appreciation.

~snip

Thank you for appreciating my posts.

I guess it is because of users do not bother to read tons of remaining comments to the thread,  it is actually true,  well,  one more idea for a new graphic  Tongue

Nice suggestion, if the page view per user data is available that could be done.
13  Other / Meta / 100 Days of Merit on: May 13, 2018, 09:11:31 PM
100 Days of Merit

Hello, there fellow members! Itís been a long time since I look into merit stats.
In this post, I will cover the 100 days of merit. Just like before the data are based on theymos data which can be view
here https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz and other forum stats which can be view here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats .


I. Before and After
Some are still wondering, do the merit system prevent people from creating dummy accounts?
100 days before the merit started the number of new users increases from a minimum of 1,662 to a maximum of 14,274 new users a day.
Fourteen thousand new user registered in a day is almost the same amount of new user for a span of 40 days a year later.
The figure below shows the 100 days before and after merit implementation.



The average new user a day before the merit is 5,152 this go down to 3,315 a day or 36% decrease after merit implementation.
Even though it decreases, we are still unsure if those new accounts are dummy or not.

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II. Giver and Receiver
Merit is created to ensure a quality post contribution to the forum. Some member finds an excellent post and gives merit, while some give merit as a reward.
Some become merit sources and distribute to others, while some prefer to receive merit and hoard it.
There are 128,079 merits given from January 27 to May 7, with a total of 59,297 transactions. The figure below shows the unique number of accounts that give and receive merits.
Ranks and position are based on May 7 rankings. Some have ranked up within the 100 days but based on my estimate there could be less than 4,000 accounts that have ranked up.



The total shows that there are more people who receive merit than those who give. It could notice that most of the beneficiaries of merit are form the lower rank.


Color denotes the receiver of merit. The figure above shows Hero and Legendary donít hesitate to give a vast amount of merit to Jr members.
Mostly, the higher the Rank, the more chances of receiving higher merits.


The figure above shows the frequency of giving merit to another. Most of the Legendary members give merit to another legendary, while most Hero gives merit to legendary as well.
Members give more frequent merit to another member, while full members, Sr. members, Jr. members, and even staff prioritize to give merit to Members.

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III. Merit Decreases
After the merit was announced, most of the forum members give merit to overcome curiosity. But as time goes by, they realize that accumulating merit is not an easy task.
 One will need to receive two merits in order to give one merit to others. The figure below shows total merit sent per day from individual members.



From more than 4,500 merits given in a day, it dips below 1,000 after 41 days. And from 1,000 merits on March 9, it almost reaches 500 after another 40 days.
The fewest merit sent in a day is 523 happened last April 22 which is sent by 190 members.  Merit giver also decreases, from a maximum of 1,000 down to 190 per day.


Looking at the Merit Sent Moving Average, it almost decreases 1% every day. It would take an estimate of 252 Days before the average merit sent per day go below 100.


The figure above shows the amount of merit given in a single transaction. It could notice that as time goes by, the bulk of giving high merit also decreases.

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IV. Additional Merit Stats
Merit Amount description


There is 41,265 merit transaction that gives one merit, 8,610 that give 2 merits, while 9,421 gives 3 or more merit.
If you question would be, why divide merit into three. That is because the average merit is 2.16.
That is why it could be a good indicator that once you have received one merit, it could be considered as low, 2 for average and 3 or more for high.   

Merit Average
Based on the table below it clearly shows that Newbie and Jr. Member have an average of 3 merits received in the span of 100 days.
It could be assumed that they could easily rank up to a member rank.


Merit Day & Time
Are you looking when the perfect day to post so that your will got a higher chance of getting merit is?
The figure below shows that most of the members give merit during Monday.



This figure shows the time most of the merit is given.


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V. Hindrance of Ranking
There are a lot of members who complain that merit hinders them to reach a higher rank.
Thus, I tried to figure out who among canít rank up due to merit, due to activity or both.
Table below shows ranks and their hindrance in ranking up.




The figure above shows that 45% of the members need to attain the required merit to rank up.
But it is only 4% higher to a much more more significant problem which is the combination of Activity and Merit.
While some, see merit as a problem, there are members who gain enough merit and just needed to gain additional activity to rank up.

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Thank you for reading this long post.
I hope you have learned something about it. Once again, this is not an official forum stat.
 Some information may not jive as you want, but I am always welcome to comments and suggestions.


14  Economy / Services / Re: 🌙🌙🌙 Moonlite Signature Campaign 🌙 🌙🌙 [MEMBERS+] on: March 21, 2018, 05:10:46 PM

Thankz aTriz until next time.
Hoping for the success of Moonlite.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the advantages of having Bitcoin? on: March 19, 2018, 05:36:13 PM
Another frequent question that have been asked in this forum maybe a hundred times.
Just an advise before posting a question, you could use the box in the upper right hand corner to search topics that you may want to ask. If you can't find some answer after several scrolls and reading by then you could post a question.
The number one advantage for me is the cut cost, bitcoins allows people to send money across the world without the need of a pile up paper works and payments.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Another Coin Take the Crown? on: March 19, 2018, 05:19:40 PM
No one could take off the crown in bitcoin my friend, and I assure you with that. Even tough there are lot of alt coins out there, people will always remember that without bitcoin none of the could eventually exist. Even there are crypto that could surpasses the price of bitcoin (which i think is impossible at the moment) still people will honor bitcoin and see it as the king of all the crypto no matter what happened.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin affects students' performance in school on: March 19, 2018, 04:52:15 PM
Hello teacher. I have read students in korean university that started a club inside the unoiversity that recruit other student to start their journey and invest in bitcoin. And as far as I have read, the university did not suspend nor block that group of student. One thing that make bitcoin advantageous to those students especially in business courses, they are able to practice in the real world without even investing a lot and not even talking to a broker. They can experience trading all by them self using a portion of their allowance. But if there are students that drop their subject in favor of bitcoin, that could sound alarming and soon the university may look upon that.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could bitcoin reach 100.000$ ? on: March 17, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
I think that would never happened, as you notice the previous dip even wont go through below 6k. Once the bitcoin price go on that level again the people will again flock and start to buy as much as they can. What more if the bitcoin price start to go below 7k again. other crypto will go beyond that point but bitcoin wont go below that.
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the government ban bitcoin? on: March 17, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
There are a handful of countries that band and prohibit bitcoin or any crypto, but there are more countries that support and even created their own country special coin. Additionally, there are countries that did not ban nor support crypto but they don't tolerate crimes in relation to crypto. Due to the previous subpoena issues, there are existing crypto companies that have no choice but to follow the mandate of their government. But I do hope that the government is positive about it that they will help crypto to grow rather than to ban it.
20  Economy / Speculation / Re: best time to buy bitcoin on: March 17, 2018, 11:22:10 AM
Yup, I even see it go way below 8k a couple of days ago. And just like you I acquire some to add in my portfolio and set it on the long term rather than short term. I think we don't need to wait for the end of this year to reach the 20k mark again. The price could be reached at the third quarter of this year based on several analysis. Given the fact that every year bitcoin price increase at a minimum of 25%, still we are able to surpasses the 20k mark. But I doubt that some people really sell their house to invest in crypto.
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