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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT (AT) vs Ethereum (Where is the Future)? on: July 31, 2015, 04:55:00 PM
Just to get it clear! With AT you mean Automated Transactions ? AT was developed by CIYAM Developers and isn't on NXT!
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Approximate a Decentralized Exchange on: June 14, 2015, 10:22:54 AM
Did you notice CIYAM AT & ACCT ?

Automated Transactions (AT) is a technology created by CIYAM Developers which provides "Turing complete smart contracts" for any blockchain that implements it.
http://ciyam.org/at/

Atomic Cross Chain Trading
http://ciyam.org/at/at_atomic.html

Burst & Qora just integrated CIYAM AT / ACCT ino their existing chains! More to come soon! IF more communites would integrate AT/ACCT into their chains, then truly decentralized exchanges could get executed.

If you have questions concerning about, don't hesitate to contact me anytime!

Best
jan
CIYAM Developers
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Automated Transactions on: May 19, 2015, 11:51:00 AM
Although I was aware of the project Mercury I hadn't realised that they had performed ACCT txs months ago, however, it should be noted that these were only on "testnets" (Bitcoin and Dogecoin apparently) whereas the ACCT done using AT just recently was done using two "mainnets" (Burst and Qora).

IMO anything done on a "testnet" doesn't really count but perhaps that is just me.

We will correct our media release to clarify this - the work that the Mercury project was based upon (from @TierNolan) is also key to the design of the ACCT for AT (although it doesn't work exactly the same due to the fact that ATs act as escrow accounts) and in the ACCT documentation http://ciyam.org/at/at_atomic.html you'll note that TierNolan was duly credited (and that has been in the docco for months).


Thx for clarification Ian!
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Automated Transactions on: May 19, 2015, 07:25:58 AM
It is possible to hard-code values into ATs but understand as the Initiator and Responder would need different values we'd have to have two ACCT ATs rather than just one (at the moment the code is the same regardless of which role).

The next main focus for the AT project is going to be UI so we will consider how we can make the workflow and UX better as we proceed.


With the upcoming release of Nxt (1.5.x) there comes a feature named "pay-on-reveal-secret", which I think is the key component of ACCT. Could you adopt the AT code to create a Nxt-compatible secret?

It would be huge to have ACCT between Qora, Burst and Nxt!  Smiley

I also asked the lead Nxt dev about it, here is his answer (from the Nxt forum):

Great, so theoretically we could do Atomic Cross­Chain Transfers between Nxt, Qora and Burst? What must be done to achieve this?
This is the description of the algorithm:
http://upcoder.com/11/atomic-cross-chain-exchange/
and from the 1.5.0e changelog:
Pay on reveal secret is supported as a voting model for phased transactions.
When this voting model is used, the phased transaction must include the
hash of a secret chosen by the sender (up to 100 bytes long), and an approval
transaction for it is only accepted if it includes the secret that results in
this hash. It does not matter who the sender of the approval transaction is,
unless a whitelist is also defined. Supported hash functions currently are
sha256, ripemd160, and sha256 followed by ripemd160. The codes to specify them
as parameters are available from the getConstants API.

It is required that the other blockchain supports at least one of the above hash functions for the hash of the secret. Instead of timeout and refund transactions, we use phasing finish height, by which the secret revealing transaction must be submitted and accepted in the blockchain, otherwise the reserved unconfirmed balance is refunded. The deadline parameter can also be used to make sure a transaction is not included in the blockchain after this deadline has expired. Somebody should look into whether this can be made to fit with the algorithm they are using. If it can, maybe even a plugin to make it user friendly can be created?

Why NXT is just not using AT like QORA and BURST is doing ? Easier workaround IMO
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Automated Transactions on: May 18, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Few exchanges have had zero major security issues. Cryptsy is one of the luckier ones, although lots of people complain about withdrawal delays there.

I think those two are related...

OK, how is the related to this AT thread ?
6  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Automated Transactions (AT) is changing things - find out more here on: May 17, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
The worlds first ACCT (Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer) between two separate blockchains (Qora and Burst) has already happened.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Automated Transactions on: May 17, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
An Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer between Burst and Qora has been occurred successfully
press release regarding this event:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4vYMJwBtRGLLVQ0OElQRzJackE/view

please share with the world!

if you would give me access to doc so i could get info gfx etc ... i would prepare a pretty pdf ... for linking on all involved parties sites.
let me know what you're thinking …
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Automated Transactions on: May 17, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
An Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer between Burst and Qora has been occurred successfully

Crypto history is written!

Congratz to all involved parties Smiley
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is Ethereum??? on: May 04, 2015, 09:33:40 AM
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I don't agree with the way they went about raising funds, it was probably Charles Hoskinson's idea. I didn't purchase "ethers",  considered it more a donation than an investment.

Despite spending months of my life trying to figure out the legal and tax implications of it and even moving to Switzerland for three months, I was always against the ether sale and wanted to take VC money. It made a hell of a negotiating point for valuation, but introduced a terrible moral hazard of having no fiduciary responsibility behind the enormous sum raised. Also no formal due diligence process would be applied to the core team.

If there was to be a sale, then I wanted two organizations to form with a VC funded for profit building the initial protocol and then a sale at the time of launch to fund a foundation with a separate board managing it. This would create a clear separation of concerns and avoid conflicts of interest. Second, the risk to ether purchasers would be substantially less and would have eliminated the need and justification for a premine altogether. Obviously that didn't happen and the project decided to use the sale to fund some sort of bizarre swiss NPO funding a pesudo for profit in England two months after I left in early June.

Since then they've apparently spent or lost 14 of the 18 million raised and have missed two launch windows for a command line barebones version of the software. Second, they've experienced terrible mission creep with a mandate to re-invent the internet as opposed to simply giving the space a much better foundation to build cool blockchain centric applications and protocols. I'm honestly not sure what ethereum is anymore? Whisper, Swarm, Golem, Holons, Open Org, 4 new programming languages, DAOs???

In any event, don't blame people you've never met for things you know nothing about. Ethereum would be a very different project if I was still there. I'm not and they don't even have me listed as a founder nor did Mihai even mention me once in his history of the project. Thus I suppose I never played a meaningful role. 

Thank you Charles for your insight thoughts of this situation!
10  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CIYAM - Project Plan Outline on: April 11, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
Dear community!

Just want to officially confirm, i'm back!
I'm UI/UX developer and i'll assisting on marketing related tasks in future also!
Stay tuned!

Happy to be back Smiley
Cheers
jan
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will BTC hit $1000 again? on: May 15, 2014, 07:09:44 AM
2015

agreed
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshi-Karoshi Multiplayer Roulette on: May 11, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
Nice new game (Inbetween) -- i like Smiley
13  Economy / Services / Re: [For Hire] Create a digital ocean image on: May 10, 2014, 05:55:26 PM
You mean [HIRING]?

guess so Smiley was confused also ...
14  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: The biggest project ever created has been created. And it's waiting for YOU! on: May 10, 2014, 09:03:06 AM
seriously?  Huh
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dark Wallet: Let There Be Dark! on: May 08, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
i really like idea and also alpha version of darkwallet.
Great design btw maybe a few adjustments on this side.

Great progess thx unsystem for the efforts
16  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CIYAM - now recruiting on: May 08, 2014, 08:51:59 AM
CIYAM is one of the most revolutionary ideas I've seen in the Bitcoin space and I'd highly recommend checking it out.

indeed - you should check this more deeply
17  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CIYAM on: May 07, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
Really nice to see rebranding in progress...
18  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] CIYAM Open - Put your "dibs" on tasks for BTC! on: April 17, 2014, 11:10:37 AM
I'd like to welcome aboard the WebCoinKit project http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20140414134634671001&ident=M100V137&chksum=8982ef7f and wish @killerstorm all the best with the project.

Also for those who may not already be aware http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20140220164742097000&ident=M100V137&chksum=065ecf7d a project to create "Turing complete" transactions for Nxt is well underway.


wow nice :-  i'll look from time to time if they will offer a graphic task also Smiley
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preferred Bitcoin logo[POLL] on: April 11, 2014, 09:02:34 AM
i like both! 2nd is more modern and  more adaptable on websites etc. my 2 btc
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Industry Group Aims to Change Bitcoin Symbol on: April 09, 2014, 11:29:47 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/industry-website-advocate-bitcoins-unicode-symbol/

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An effort to better represent bitcoin as a symbol has been launched.

The Unicode symbol has been chosen by a website of industry members as a way to better legitimize bitcoin as a symbol both in print and online media.


Proposed New Symbol:



i like it
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