I have a hope that 2019 will be better for mining too.
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Oh, yes, you were at the beginning of crypto crisis, BTC started falling in Feb just to mention that am another user which got money lost on Hashflare
put around 500USD in April, it mined for two-three weeks, made 28usd, then it stopped and since then, no more payouts
Yeah, starting from this time approximately we started to lose profit. Next year should bring another story. Next year should bring another money =) Or better say SOME money, ANY money  Any money is exact word  Current rate destroys all plans.
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True, telling hashflare to make BTC higher has no point as well as my advice is to read ToS before you invest yup as all the people who now hate it will start loving it in a second)))) I think that's positive tho, as bitcoin grew a little bit, now it's stable at least it's not going down
Totally, better than rollercoasters we've seen before) I am waiting for the moment when the price slowly starts to go up. It's gonna be such an exciting moment  To be honest I don't know a lot of btc haters, people are normally excited or neutral according to what I've seen. But obviously they should exist so yeah...they will be surprised  Yeap, they can't reverse this situation unfortunately. We all should wait for btc to increase or forget about it at all. Nooo, I don't want to forget about it  I still believe in btc and cloud mining.
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Do NOT panic Do NOT sell and please do NOT write hysterical twitts
ahha) everything I wanted to say, you read my mind  HODL and be patient guys)
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True, as mining is not profitable in any way in terms of crisis. More than that simple increasing won't help, we need btc to stay at one level I'm not sure as hashflare still resumed all kind of operations, but since mining is not profitable it has no point and about paybacks. Well, now that's a forever process, cos' the amount of people trying to get it is a colossal
The main thing for us now is to wait for higher rate anyway. we have no other choice actually  I thought to purchase my own equipment but it turned out to be not so easy and very costly. Cloud mining gives us good opportunity to earn by investing not so much. At least it gave before... So I keep waiting for industry to recover.
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I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite
No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages! +1 agree! I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down But we are talkin about money its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is. Tell it all the haters around  I agree with you, we need just to be patient, current situation is temporary. crypto is here to stay for sure, but whether HF can overcome this crisis, we'll know only afterwards) Yeah, the more time passes, the more chances we have contracts can just expire. But everyone keeps saying the beginning of 2019 is our hour of triumph.  Hope so, it's been hard year for crypto; we all need better price.
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Any ideas when btc hits the level we need? I mean of course no one knows for sure, just maybe some of you have sth to share) I believe the beginning of 2019 will change this bearish trend.
How can one know when will this bearish situation ends? Good question, If only we knew  There are some positive predictions for beginning of 2019, but so many factors can influence situation that it's impossible to say for sure.
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The thing is mining difficulty always increases as well; so by the time btc hits 11k who knows how much exactly we gonna need to gain real profit. Anyway, with current prices it's pointless to discuss it.
Even if the difficulty doesn't catch up hard enough to eat through your profitability, the cloud miners could still choose to not pay out anything. In the end, we're dealing with a scheme here, which means that if there isn't enough money flowing into their platform, they won't be paying, it's that simple. Their word to become profitable when the price reaches x level is worthless. It's just another attempt to trap in noobs not knowing how things work here. Even the services that are actually mining don't pay their users with their mining rewards. People get paid with funds coming from previous investors, that's how schemes work. In other words, legit cloud miners and outright scam cloud miners are the same. You are talking about Ponzi scheme here, but how can you prove it? I mean why do you think that all services work this way?
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will you reopen them again when the crisis is over?
That will depend on the market situation. We will notify our users once we have any information on the matter. How are you going to do this? I mean there so many fake pages, I don't know who to believe!  I think that all official pages are listed on their website Yeah, there are official pages on Twitter and FB, you can always check the info, they post sth once in a while.
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very sad to hear that currently maintrance fees are higher than the incom would .... I hope you can find any ways to come back into this could mining bussines.... Becourse still some companies start now minig i dont know how others like IceRock doing this XD
regards
I've heard only about problems  Thought all cloud mining services are in trouble actually.
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Hello Hashflared Team,
When mining will become profitable again? What is the value that Bitcoin needs to reach in order to resume the mining process ?
Hi! BTC would have to be over $9200 with the current mining difficulty in order for payouts to become greater than the maintenance fee. Just 9k, everyone told me at least 11k for good profit. Anyway, this all seems like faraway dream now  Guess the information I previously provided was a bit outdated... 10k is the price for payouts to become positive again at the moment. I wish that could be easy to just put BTC back by higher demand or supply. Any trend on that from hashflare? Big institutional investors could help but seems like they don't plan it any time soon. Well yes, institutional capital could possibly provide new era, so called crypto spring Would be awesome cause crypto winter has been too long! I vote for 2019, hope things will change next year)
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Glad to see you here Hashflare, hope you gonna post some news and answer our questions cause you didn't talk a lot lately.
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Ideally cloud mining services should be regulated or controlled somehow. I mean we really don't know how much truth they give us. But at the same time it's only our choice to believe them, invest and take risks in order to gain more.
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Well, and it won't be untill Bitcoin is back on top. Whatever you like it or not, market is going down. Look at what happens to Genesis
payouts are simply impossible with such btc rate  It’s sad that we allow this type of manipulation. Nothing should have this type of control over your lives.
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That's actually true, hashflare resumed contracts. Mine is working now) Many of cryptoenthusiasts are actually predicting higher peaks for bitcoin. There is a significant amount of volatility now, but I believe BTC should regain the astonishing heights it reached before.
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How can I change my eth address? Or can I just add another one?
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Do you accept buyers from every country?
Probably people from China and the USA are forbidden to join, because ICOs are banned in these countries. yeap, youre right maybe you guys know how to avoid this restriction? There is no way You have to attach documents to buy tokens (id and address) Its possible only if you have dual citizenship, i think...or if you falsify you documents I would never give my personal information to complete strangers, who may be some scam people...They could easily take a bank loan pretending to be me or something like this Yess...I suppose in our days of scams we need a KYD (Know Your Developer) procedure... Don't agree with you guyys. KYC procedure is necessary for all the business whether it is connected to the blockchain technology or it is related to any other business. It's collected for the business owners security and other information purposes. I personally think that KYC in ICOs add to some degree of credibility.
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What happens if I lose my key to the wallet?
shit happens 
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Guys, I have some problems with registration. Can somebody help me?
What kind of problem? I think its quite easy You see I didn't get an activation email  Did you check spam?
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I didn't know that and it is also impossible to verify whether they are independent or not. We all know how the three big ratings agencies did their job right before the financial crisis  They claimed to be independent, but obviously they weren't. The one thing I really don't like and don't understand in ICObench is rating. There are several of so-called "experts" who have no idea about the tech behind blockchain and ICO. So they review projects and making grades for each project, but some of this experts are obviously don't know what these projects are about. Yeah, this rating system is ridiculous, some great projects has 3.5-3.8 rankings As for my opinion, every "expert" should be forced to describe his grades and leave a comment, so people can research and follow opinions not just the numbers. I do agree with you guys, there should be a kind of explanation or the way to discuss ay least, but both of those experts haven't answered on LinkedIn. But don't you worry, ICObench rating is one of preliminary ratings and having 5.0 is much more suspicious than say 3.8 or 4.3 as it's a result of some work done. The final mark comes from the market anyway ) They have also been bad with their ratings at times when high quality of the project was very obvious. In that case they probably did an independent rating. Question remains whether they take money from some projects or not but I doubt that we will ever find out. Definitely questionable and the biggest issue is that you should always assume they bought the coins they are talking positively about to then sell them after you read their ratings. Not very good. I personally look through some sites with ratings from time to time. But I don't completely focus on them because not all ICOs with high ratings are guaranteed to be successful. I rely more on the team, the telegram, wp and so on Team is everything as I learned from my experience. If you can meet them face to face that is the best situation as you can see in real time whether they are able to answer questions and provide explanations about their project without any hassle. Agree It's always better to communicate with someone personally, in any field. Unfortunately that was not always possible That is to some degree the disadvantage of global fundraising through ICOs. There is no face to face conversation with the teams anymore and that is why you should at least demand a video conference if you are about to invest a large amount of money. I think a video about team, about their experience, thoughts, vision of poject would also be nice
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