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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 20, 2014, 06:52:31 PM
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Unlike you, I don't need to brag about my private accomplishments... I don't have any personal need to show you - that's you with a piece missing inside that causes you to seek external validation.
And yes, I consider this stuff trivial for a skilled developer. Congrats, you made something fairly unoptimized more optimized... it isn't hard.
Oh, right, the old "I've done it a dozen times better than you, but I don't need to show you because I'm better than that." What you mean to say is, you don't have jack shit, and I do. Talk is cheap - if you could code your way out of a wet paper bag, you'd have something. When I read wolf0's responses, I keep wondering if he quoted the wrong post lol.... hillarious how he keeps making up his own wild interpretations of what I said, because obviously he doesn't have any response to what I actually wrote. I tell you, if wolf0 codes anything like he communicates, I wouldn't touch anything he developed with a 10ft pole. Good thing his shitty XMR optimizations (woo! Mostly adding gcc flags is so hard!) were quickly dwarfed by far superior software that was developed from scratch by a real coder - not some want-to-be braggariet. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 20, 2014, 03:46:57 AM
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You actually did assert that - at least indirectly: "Don't try to tell me that something that is legal is bad and something that is illegal is fine..."
What I said is nothing like what you said... Thanks for quoting me - put it next to what you said, it isn't an indirect assertion of what you said at all. Damn, lrn 2 logic? But let's go on with your fantasy that I'm not making any points whatsoever; it's like talking to a brick wall.
I said you were ignoring my points... convenient you ignore that point too, lol... And you say it's like talking to brick wall. By the way, you ARE a dick. You're defending what is essentially taking revenue away from someone who deserves it. That makes you worse than a dick. That makes you cancer.
Huh? What exactly am I defending? And who do you think deserves revenue? You or gringo for making minor modifications to a huge long standing community project? What kind of arrogant shit are you? Oh wait... I know exactly... The kind that boasts about things that are fairly trivial, pointlessly throws more gcc optimization flags at his builds then you can shake a stick at, and then shows up around these forums to gloat regularly. Oh, and thinks he "deserves" revenue. Wolf0. Minor modifications like replacing two algorithms outright because apparently no one else who saw it saw anything wrong with it. Anyone can write a shell for a miner - it takes a long time and it's tedious and boring, sure - actually coding the important parts well takes skill. You think it's so minor and simple? Come on, hit my hashrate yourself, then. I've got plenty more ideas to try out, so if you think you can do it better, then get to it! Otherwise, sit down, shut up, and realize that people who do skilled work should be paid for it. You sit there, probably having mined X11/X13/X15 at some point yourself, talking about how minor and trivial optimizing it is - well, show me. Unlike you, I don't need to brag about my private accomplishments... I don't have any personal need to show you - that's you with a piece missing inside that causes you to seek external validation. And yes, I consider this stuff trivial for a skilled developer. Congrats, you made something fairly unoptimized more optimized... it isn't hard. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BCX Monero ///Exploit Lie Officially Debunked///, what a retard
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on: September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 AM
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so where is the contradiction? I dont see it
where is the 'debunk'? I dont see it
~CfA~
Here: * I have found very specific exploits in CN that have not been fixed that would be successful on XMR. [...] One [exploit] is a coin killer. [...] To fix this, anonymity will need to be sacrificed. 2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented. These 2 comments stand in complete contradiction to each other. Since the second comment was made in BCX's only real follow up, his claims certainly look like FUD! Not even consistent. So, without further proof, BitcoinEXpress's claims should be considered FUD and bullshit. and so: This is in direct contradiction to your original claim that it cannot be fixed without giving up on anonymity. I call bullshit.
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on: September 20, 2014, 02:50:45 AM
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A theft bug that cannot be fixed without breaking the system's privacy must be a cryptographic one. Thats a pretty strong claim which deserves some strong evidence. Other systems are using related cryptosystems, and would benefit greatly from knowing it was broken. BCX should publish his discovery.
100%. Announcing this with no proof looks a lot more like market manipulation then anything else. If this is true, then why not publish? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
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on: September 20, 2014, 02:34:01 AM
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Can't register on the forums... There is nothing next to "Antispam, complete the task", and it throws an error when I click Complete Signup. Using Chrome 37.0.2062.120 (latest stable). As for the coins... NXT probably deserves verification. I would say Negotium (NTM) should be on the shitlist, not the protection list... It's a clone if I ever saw one - they don't even have a revision history on github, and no code updates since 5 months ago on initial release. We need a Petitions For Destroying/Absorbing Economy for Negotium. If crap coins like that can be listed in the petitions for coinshield verficiation, something is very wrong with this system. I think we need a third option in the CoinShield Verification petitions - Yes; No; and No, Destroy/Absorb Economy. Then, if you put your coin up for verification and it offers no innovation, it can be directly punished and listed for destruction. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 20, 2014, 02:23:58 AM
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You actually did assert that - at least indirectly: "Don't try to tell me that something that is legal is bad and something that is illegal is fine..."
What I said is nothing like what you said... Thanks for quoting me - put it next to what you said, it isn't an indirect assertion of what you said at all. Damn, lrn 2 logic? But let's go on with your fantasy that I'm not making any points whatsoever; it's like talking to a brick wall.
I said you were ignoring my points... convenient you ignore that point too, lol... And you say it's like talking to brick wall. By the way, you ARE a dick. You're defending what is essentially taking revenue away from someone who deserves it. That makes you worse than a dick. That makes you cancer.
Huh? What exactly am I defending? And who do you think deserves revenue? You or gringo for making minor modifications to a huge long standing community project? What kind of arrogant shit are you? Oh wait... I know exactly... The kind that boasts about things that are fairly trivial, pointlessly throws more gcc optimization flags at his builds then you can shake a stick at, and then shows up around these forums to gloat regularly. Oh, and thinks he "deserves" revenue. Wolf0. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 20, 2014, 01:44:12 AM
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Don't try to tell you that something legal is bad and something illegal is fine? Now that is an argument that has no leg to stand on. Legal and illegal are decided by people. Often people with motives other than serving the common good, and even if they were incorruptible, as people, they can make mistakes! There are MANY unjust laws, all around the world. So your assertion that legal == right and illegal == wrong is total horseshit.
But, let's play that game. What I'm doing is completely legal, so you shouldn't have shit to say. Or, is there something you think is wrong about it, regardless of legality? Something wrong, like taking someone else's hard work and distributing it for free? You're basing your argument on faulty assumptions.
Sigh... you are just so fail wolf0... that's what you've got? I never asserted what you claim... dude, wtf? Learn to read, man. I never ever said right == legal. Also, we were specifically talking about software licencing, so your moral rant was just way out there. Reverse engineering is legal. If you're not competant enough to obfuscate binaries, or you release binaries without strict licencing, then expect them to get ripped off... Your arguing about nothing now. You're just trying to distract from the point. It's just sad how you ignore all the points I make, and choose one thing in each post to miss interpret and rant about. I sure as hell don't come in here talking about my best hashrates without sharing how I did it - I shut up if I don't want to share. Because, apparently unlike you, I am not a dick. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 20, 2014, 12:57:49 AM
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"Nothing wrong with reverse engineering software." -- there it is again. You're using the GPL as an excuse is what you're doing - "I want this for free, so this is how I rationalize taking it." What? My comment about reverse engineering had nothing to do with the GPLv3... Nor did I talk about free things, did I? I simply said that if you release something (sell it to me, give it to me for free, whatever), and there isn't something in the terms of sale or license that prohibits me from reverse engineering that, then I am free to do so. Now, girino used the code in violation of the license - which was also wrong. But it doesn't mean ripping apart his work and using it for free was any better.
Yes, it does. Girino violated the license (illegal). Someone else reverse engineered a binary (totally legal) that was released publicly. I would be a dick if I came here just to taunt people with something they couldn't have - but I didn't. But you did taunt people with something they couldn't have.... yeesh... in example: you would be better to show the source code of the people and not your ability to hvastatsya programirovat
If you're good at something... well, you know the end of the quote. Proof of 7.1MH/s on 290 (nsfw, as usual): https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/x11290wolf.pngThat doesn't look like taunting to you? I came here with a clear goal in mind Intentions don't mean anything. What you do, does. I AM respecting the license, by the by. But you're not respecting the spirit of this miner or this thread, and that's what is so offensive and backhanded. I mean damn, look at the origin of this thread - it's about nicehash spurring open and public development. Now, stop trying to throw shit at me that doesn't make any sense. If you're going to try to argue with me, then at least do it with some facts behind you. Don't try to tell me that something that is legal is bad and something that is illegal is fine... Anyway, if you're planning on saying nothing more about your private improvements, then I guess the case it reasonably moot. Bye. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!
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on: September 20, 2014, 12:52:17 AM
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Given what we all now know, which are the most likely statements about Alpha-T ?
I'd say these options are the most likely, IMO: 5) They started out with good intentions but became a scam after tape-out problems What are the chances that Alpha-T deliver a working 250 Mh/s Viper in the next 8 working days ? 1) 0% - lol, ya right... What are the chances that any Alpha-T customers who paid 100% receives more than 15 cents on the dollar in settlement ? 1) 30% - settlement? If it gets that far, I doubt there will be any money left at all... But, you never know, so I'll say 30%. What are the chances that any Alpha-T customer ever pre-orders a miner from another company in the future ? 5) 99% - people be crazy, man... and frankly, anyone investing in alpha should have known it was a large risk with potentially huge rewards. Absolutely some people will pre-order again. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 20, 2014, 12:14:26 AM
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phzi, your attitude (about "nature of the project" saying release source) embodies exactly WHY most of the algorithms in SGMiner mine so slowly: You act entitled to other people's work - just like the people who stole from girino. You, and people like you, are the reason why most good devs don't dare spend time writing code to be used by all miners. And it seems like no one wants to say that. There are all sorts of people on this board who are amazing at this - but they figure they'd be wasting their time. I'll probably get hated on, but there it is.
That's simply a gross misrepresentation of the facts. I've never said I'm entitled to anybody's work, nor have I acted like that. It's simple - if you're using other people's work that they have licensed in a specific way, then you should respect those licenses. What I said about releasing source is plain and simple - gtfo out of here with your advertising and subtle attempts to get people to contact you and buy your private modifications to an open source project... Or, build your own miner from scratch and license it how you want. You must just trying to point the finger at me for absolute bullshit because you're acting very distastefully and want to distract from that. Also - stole from girino? LOL... nothing wrong with reverse engineering software. It definitely was not stealing - you're misusing words. Specifically when what girino built was an extension to something that, again, is licensed GPLv3... I'm not saying you shouldn't profit from your work. I'm saying stop being a dick. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] sgminer v5 - new unified multi-algorithm on-the-fly kernel switching miner
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on: September 19, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
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He's been lucky so far - someone will probably reverse engineer it and steal it.
If wolf0 doesn't actually contribute something to this thread, then can a mod hurry up and step in here? This thread is supposed to be about sgminer v5, not wolf0's private unreleased optimizations and bragging rights... Like wow... It's served its purpose - it was advertisement, not bragging rights. I assumed, correctly, that some farmers read threads like these - therefore I posted. Fine... trying to advertise still seems totally off topic and inappropriate for this thread. This is GPLv3 software. If you're going to modify it and not release it, then just keep it to yourself and don't talk about it. If you're going to talk about it, then honor the nature of the project and release the source code for your modifications... Many have come before Wolf0 to create the sgminer we have today, and you don't see floating around advertising their unreleased modifications. If you want to release a private miner, then develop it from scratch and license it how you want. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!
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on: September 19, 2014, 06:36:33 PM
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It is nice that we only had to put down 30% or so. That shows some trust, at least to us that paid with CC's with some protection.
Actually the 30% down may work against you, as they don't have to refund any of the deposit if you change your mind. If you had paid in full you would be entitled to a full refund up until the day of shipment.
They have agreed to partial refunds which on paper looks good.
But.........If I was an evil genius, that's exactly what I would do. Then wait six months spread a load of FUD so everyone cancels. I'd only have to pay 50% back minus £70 fee. So even if I only sold 1000 5MH/s units, I'd pocket a cool quarter million, totally legally, then fold the company due to lack of resources.
Just a thoughtSound familiar? Heh... nail on the head indeed. Every day that passes, the entire project seems more like a scam run by accountants. Maybe they are offering refunds to select people that they know will take them, because they want to drain their remaining accounts before declaring bankrupsy, lol. I see no official news or email blasts about it. If they did actually do that, it would mean they're going the way of BFL. Always arrears in their cashflow, leaving the final batch stuck holding the anchors.
May also mean they have a product sometime. Soon. This is fact.
lol
Lol... I doubt it. We would have seen something other then their awful case prototype by now, if shipping was going to happen "Soon". But then again, it probably will happen "soon" if you use Alpha-T's apparent definition of soon lol. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!
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on: September 19, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
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This might have been their plan all along. Get everyone to preorder then when no one wants these turds any longer offer 30% refund. They keep 70% all along never planning to build an asic.
Yup... it sure smells like that at this point. That refund e-mail definitely didn't go out to everyone. Must be trying to stave off lawsuits, because they know they have already lost and will continue to do so in court. I definitely threatened them with legal action, so it wouldn't be surprised if that's who the refund e-mails were specifically targeted at. Know what really cracks me up tho? Here is an e-mail from 2014-06-05, over 3 months ago: Hello there,
Your unit has been downgraded and your previous balance taken into
account so your order is now fully paid. We now owe you £250.01.
Please provide your bank details so we can transfer the remainder back
to you.
Regards
Alpha-T I definitely never received that wire transfer for £250.01, and they ignored all my follow-ups. So, I wouldn't count on getting even a 30% refund at this point if you respond to that e-mail. My bet - by accepting the 30% they figure it gives them standing under the law to refund nothing, because you were going to take 30% as a 'gesture of goodwill'. So, by accepting the refund, you're tactfully agreeing that they have no liability for the deposits. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!
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on: September 19, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
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Has anyone actually received that email from alpha? Or is it a fake e-mail? Because on the forums a bunch of purchasers have not received the Refund e-mail.
It's a strange one. The guy who originally posted the email is a known Alpha sock puppet (Hassher) but no one else seems to have gotten it , although UltraRUS said he asked Alpha about the refund and was told it was 30% then got banned for posting it. So who knows? Yes, I got the e-mail. Maybe they are only sending it to people that have previously demanded refunds? Return-path: < payments@alpha-t.net> Delivery-date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:46:11 -0700 Received: from silver.alpha-t.net ([192.99.4.74]:57755) by **** with esmtps (UNKNOWN:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from < payments@alpha-t.net>) id 1XUduI-0007EH-Om for ****; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:46:11 -0700 Received: from localhost ([::1]:37634 helo=silver.alpha-t.net) by silver.alpha-t.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from < payments@alpha-t.net>) id 1XUdn4-0004nC-2t; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:38:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:38:37 +0100 From: payments@alpha-t.netTo: info@alpha-t.netSubject: Refund Update Message-ID: < 9f9c3b5e5bb2d6be4e0289a21924a9d4@alpha-t.net> X-Sender: payments@alpha-t.netGreetings Customer, We understand there have been many changes in the market since you ordered from us and many of you are not comfortable with completing your order. After much consideration we have decided to give partial refunds to all customers who desire them as a gesture of goodwill from us. It is of course not possible to refund everybody in full for obvious reasons even if we wanted to (the vast majority of funds have now gone into the production of the miners so the funds remaining to us are limited). For those who want this it is as simple as replying to this email ( payments@alpha-t.net) with all your paid order numbers (deposit and final payment) asking for a refund; be sure to email from the same address as your order with us. If you have orders over multiple email addresses then please send multiple emails for each request (for security reasons). For everybody else it is business as usual; and will be sending out the details of our share scheme soon as well as further updates on our production. We would also like to apologize in the delay of refunds and some payment related queries; this has been resolved so for those waiting on payments most of you can expect your refund/payment issue to be dealt with any day now. Best Regards, Mohammed Akram Director |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!
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on: August 10, 2014, 06:00:53 PM
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Yeah, that is a funny one too … To paraphrase: 'We have your deposit, no you can not have it back. It is in your interest to stop causing problems and work with us because we are not legally required to provide the performance upgrades we announced." What is priceless is that they aren't even trying to deny that they are legally obligated to give refunds anymore. They just keep spewing some shit about going above and beyond, and providing more then they have to... Like anyone believes they offered an upgrade to 50/250MH out of kindness, hahah... |
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