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I think the reasoning behind his math:
Bitfuty Power / Antminer Power = Bitfury is drawing 4.615 times more power. And if same Antminer @ 14.5 TH/s would be 4.615 times bigger it would hash at 14.5 x 4.615 = 66.92 TH/s
He should complete that calculations saying that to get to that level it would cost only $440 x 4.615 = $2030.60 in Antminers And the cheapest Bitfury at same power draw would be $55 x 66TH/s = $3630.00 which is (2030.60 / 3630) x 100 = 56% higher in $$$
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Here are some prices:
Bitfury Tardis miner, 6.3 KW. The Bitfury Tardis miner is offered with different configuration options:
5 hashboards, 66TH/s, 6,3KW – 95 mJ/GH, $55 per TH/s 6 hashboards, 71TH/s, 6,3KW - 88 mJ/GH, $58 per TH/s 7 hashboards, 75TH/s, 6,3KW - 84 mJ/GH, $61 per TH/s 8 hashboards, 78TH/s, 6,3KW - 80 mJ/GH, $65 per TH/s Each hashboard contains 128 Bitfury Clarke chips.
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How about Bitfury stuff?
Bitfury Tardis miner, 6.3 KW. The Bitfury Tardis miner is offered with different configuration options:
5 hashboards, 66TH/s, 6,3KW – 95 mJ/GH, $55 per TH/s 6 hashboards, 71TH/s, 6,3KW - 88 mJ/GH, $58 per TH/s 7 hashboards, 75TH/s, 6,3KW - 84 mJ/GH, $61 per TH/s 8 hashboards, 78TH/s, 6,3KW - 80 mJ/GH, $65 per TH/s Each hashboard contains 128 Bitfury Clarke chips.
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BTC mining on SlushPool today gives about $25 per S9 per day.
Where do you get $37.95 (52% more)?
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Looks like we are getting forced to make our own community sourced miners and because chips are not available from big guys... our own ASIC chips as well. Bummer. I work for a company that manufactures custom electronics, automation and various controls. We have clients who want some specific custom miners to be made but we can not manufacture those without chips. We have access to manufacturing facilities in Asia and Europe and I am familiar with outsourcing manufacturing on larger scale (do this every day). There’s a definite demand for miners on the market, as we all know. Nothing stops us to make these units available for community as well (with quantities increase - cost per unit decreases). Looks like we will be making our own ASIC chips at this point. We are talking to some fellow miners to join the effort. PM for more info. Anyways, as sidehack said, 500W medium miners would be the units we will be going after as one of product in the portfolio. 500W on standard 120v North American power source will draw just a bit more than 4A. You can safely plug this one in any standard outlet at home. They would be waaaaaay quieter than typical Antminer and such. If you really want, you can run 2 or even 3 or them on same circuit. Something to talk about, for sure...
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So much for decentralization.
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Подстава какая-то. Чипы они продают. Ага. Официальная компания $2M заказ хочет...
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Add me to the list:
Sidehack 20-120 gh stick x 1 pcs
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$20k for an Integrator Kit? What the hell? Is it like 100TH/s machine?
You wish PerformanceHashrate: from 30 TH/s ±5% (max power efficiency) to 49 TH/s ±5% (max performance) Power Efficiency: variable, from 0.101 to 0.133 J/GH Power Consumption: variable, 6.4 KW (max) Features576 Bitfury 16nm BF8162B ASIC chips Variable DC voltage for variable efficiency Upgradable design Proprietary Bitfury string power design Proprietary Bitfury mining soſtware running on Debian Linux Dimensions and WeightForm factor: Rack (6U) H × W × D: 19” × 17.32” × 25.6” (270 × 440 × 650 mm) Weight: 37 kgs Environmental RequirementsAC Power (2 inputs): 85–305 VAC, 200–277 VAC (nominal), 45–66 Hz, 16.5 ARMS Networking: Ethernet 100BASE-TX, IEEE 802.3u Operating Temperature: -20°C to 40°C (5–95% RH)
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I saw your PM, but apparently, I am unable to respond because I am over my limit of 2 pms since I registered today and am a new user (I've been lurking here since 2010).
I asked for the B8 and Asic spec sheets and they sent them over. I was told, but not provided documentation about the Integrator Pack.
Once you get your PM working, give me your email, we will talk there without restrictions.
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It was a general promo-sheet about integrator pack and B8. Did they give you spec sheets?
I sent you PM about it.
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When (time of year) did you ask for a quote?
The messaging was rather disjointed, but I'm still not sold that more than two people (BF side) were involved in the exchange. I watched an interview with a BitFury guy at some conference from Oct 2017 where he said the price for B8 units was 5200 and I was quoted $7k. Maybe they do it to see if you balk at the price tag or ask more questions?
Conversation took place on Dec 18, 2017. “We sell integrator kit (see attached) for $20k. This is reimbursed against final invoice when $2M+ chips purchased. They also said that bulk order chips will be ready by September 2018 (if ordered now). Thus, I’m very confused about their pricing and ability to ‘actually’ deliver.
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I was quoted $20k for integrator pack. Do you have hey just throw numbers around to see what sticks?
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Hi all It seems bitmain sell bm1387 chips About 7 $ for 10k pieces As mentioned above if any body wants to buy i am in
Where did you hear that? Link?
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As people say: Post pictures of the ACTUAL miners you have on hand together with piece of paper showing your Forum ID and Current date. Then people will actually take you seriously!
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I hadn't thought about that...maybe.
Right now I'm looking into options for repairing/replacing the dead board.
If you can't repair your hashboard, I'll buy it off you.
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Prices are not going down anytime soon. BTC is $17000, people are trying to make money.
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There are no new Antminers available from manufacturer till February 2018. You can always buy overpriced (3-4 times over original) online on eBay, Amazon, etc. ...or get scammed (in like 99.7% of times)
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Post pictures of the product along with your username shown on the picture (Write it on piece of paper or something and make it visible in the photo).
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1. What is the best Bitcoin hardware mining solution on the market today? and most cost effective?
Best hardware is the one that works. Cost efficiency is determined by Th/s per vs Watt and $ spent. 2. If you had your electricity subsidized and only paid .03 cents, hardware solution you would use?
Still the highest Hashrate per Watt (th/s / W) is what you are looking for. Antminer S9 14.0TH is one of the best readily available solutions. Too bad you can't really buy it because of the huge demand. I mean you sure can buy it, but will pay 3-4 times the original price. Someone may argue that even paying higher price and starting to mine right now is approximately the same as waiting for original Manufacturer releasing new batch. 3. Would you consider farming out mining via a cloud solution?
Owning your equipment is always the best. You have FULL control. Cloud is usually a scam
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