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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 25, 2018, 09:13:12 AM
Satoshi's wallet isn't locked and he isn't dead, tomorrow he could even dump 1M coins and you know what ? No one will care.

Why someone with the most advanced and revolutionary Blockchain tech would dump the premine ? Where is the logic ?

Its cute you think people are logical lol Thats going to bite you in the future. People were concerned about Mt Gox Trustee unloading 400 million an blame that for bitcoins price drop but you're right someone dumping 8 billion dollars worth on the market would be totally fine lol.

What I did hear though is no reasonable explanation for it not being locked.

Since when this kind of volume is sold on the market, the biggest are always sold OTC. (Out of The Chain).

Mt Gox Trustee sold on exchange i'm not sure if it was all on exchange or not but it definitely wasn't all OTC if any at all
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 24, 2018, 09:37:12 PM
Satoshi's wallet isn't locked and he isn't dead, tomorrow he could even dump 1M coins and you know what ? No one will care.

Why someone with the most advanced and revolutionary Blockchain tech would dump the premine ? Where is the logic ?

Its cute you think people are logical lol Thats going to bite you in the future. People were concerned about Mt Gox Trustee unloading 400 million an blame that for bitcoins price drop but you're right someone dumping 8 billion dollars worth on the market would be totally fine lol.

What I did hear though is no reasonable explanation for it not being locked.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 24, 2018, 08:46:30 PM
How can such a small piece like Dero attract so much Fud?
Ask yourself the right questions ...
Those who speak of premine whereas there is only 1btc of daily volume, I advise you to buy you a brain.
Captain is a respectful and respectable man, he has not disrespected anyone despite the FUD and remain very professional.
Compared his reaction to developers like Justin Sun, Roger Ver or other ....

You guys should really stop talking about the premine being unlocked vs daily volume. Its a stupid argument. Before they cratered the price of Dero being stupid.. daily volume was over 100k a day. You're literally saying 'I don't care about the unlocked premine because today its doesn't matter and the future is irrelevant. What is today.. will remain forever!' If the price picks up and the volume returns that premine being unlocked could be a very big deal.. one that is completely avoidable by doing what you said you did in the first place.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 16, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
All you claimed can only be taken as bug.Where is the scam?Did captain dump the premine?Anyone get rich in this scam?

Scam devs are sometimes even too dumb to pull off a scam. And believe it or not but some of them would even scam for a couple of dollars.
it is easy for the captain to make a new coin, sell all premine, should thank the serena and mojo for giving the correct information about the opening of the premine

Dumping the 2m DERO premine is the last thing I'm worried about as there isn't anywhere close to enough liquidity - daily trading volume is less than 5 BTC.

In fact, the current liquidity is insufficient to sell even 1% of the premine (20k DERO) without taking more than 2 weeks or else accepting an average price of at least 50% down from the current bid to get sufficient depth in the order book.

So, I see the premine being unlocked as a bit of a red herring.

The one issue I do worry about is that currently the dev(s) are anonymous and the source is closed - basically, you can have one or the other in crypto, but not both - however the source is (supposedly) being released to any CryptoNote devs on July 20th, and more publicly a few weeks from now. This is a change in plans from the previous estimate of only releasing the source after a foundation was set up, so CaptDero seems to be responding to community pressure.



The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 15, 2018, 07:41:17 PM
Please read back, and check all screenshots in https://medium.com/@mojo_lb/to-whom-captain-deros-lead-developer-feels-it-does-not-concern-6df0a9ca692a

Our actions were directly against our "finacial benefit" as you put it, we both lost money by acting as captain requested back then...

I'm really not interested in the mud-slinging and he said/she said bullshit, but I do have one pertinent question: did you and/or Serena dump your DERO before publishing that article on Medium?

Bro the price dumped when Atlantis went from a custom anti asic algo to asic friendly one from 3 second block times to 9 second block times to 12 second block times from 500 tps to 75 tps avg 50 tps. To blame the price dump on them is ridiculous. It went from 79c-83c to 40c for a few minutes back up to 60-70c. This recent drama has barely affected the price. The damage was done when the community was lied to for months, over hyped, under delivered, had a bunch of people working on testnet preparing for a cpu minable dero network when they knew they had no intentions of moving from cryptonight asics.

Its also obvious sock puppet cheerleader accounts are being used to gas light the community while Captn repeatedly ignores criticism and responds with vague answer to virtually every question he even bothers to acknowledge.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 13, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Community Advisory Board was already formed, privately I believe

I'm not on it; are you? I didn't really see the point since the wily ol' Cap'n hasn't listened to a damn thing the community has said so far (not that the community is always right, but the point remains).



Did Serena really quit the Dero team? If thats true things internally have to be pretty bad. I wouldn't know though as I'm still banned from their Discord and don't care enough to make a dummy account to get back in.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: July 01, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
I thought I bought at the bottom, but got a second bottom as a gift  Smiley
I liked this coin because of the opposite trend with respect to other coins. When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

Last time I explained the price drop i got banned from their discord so probably gonna go unanswered lol

Long term i'm still bullish though (if they can successfully implement smart contracts and their source code checks out when its finally released)
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LUXCoin—New PHI2 PoW/PoS Hybrid—SC—SegWit—PrivateSend—PoS Web Wallet—LuxGate on: June 30, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
Any idea when an AMD miner for PHI2 is gonna happen? Can this be profitably mined from decent cpus? I got some E5-2670s I could mine with if its feasible. What kind of hashrate are people getting with decent cpus i7+
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: June 28, 2018, 09:37:20 PM
I'm curious why block times were moved from 9 seconds to 12 seconds from testnet to mainnet and why are TPS 75 when (if i'm not mistaken) testnet was upwards of 350 tps to as high as 1,000 tps and Atlantis was claiming around 500 TPS prior to testnet / mainnet? What is the plan going forward to scale that? Are you guys planning to do a write up explaining what you hoped for, what you're currently at, and what you plan to do to improve the network scalability in the future or the avenues you're considering for scalability in the future?
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: June 25, 2018, 07:05:47 PM
Wonder whats worse (since you're up on a moral high horse) Blatantly lying to people for months costing your biggest supporters time and money.. or being upset for a few hours that you lied to them for months and cost them time and money. You couldn't possibly have handled this worse.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: June 24, 2018, 09:09:25 PM
Muting me on telegram is just another sad action. I can see you following SUMOKOIN where I can smell significant partnership with companies like Bitmain.
True disappointment that you wasted half of year to rewrite the code and now you just dump it.

Don't feel bad buddy.. I was one of their biggest cheerleaders and they booted me from their discord for pointing out how poorly they're handling this situation.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Atheios - A PoW Ethereum Network with No Premine on: May 30, 2018, 04:38:32 PM
Few days ago i stopped mining because the def pool redirect me to a weird ETH pool my MH go back from 140mh to 40 mh i had a rediraction.
Everyone had the same problem?
I changed the Port from 8007 to 8008 whitout any changes.
I realy like this project and want to mine it again... Hope to get some help  Smiley

On my windows PC that i also mine from.. for whatever reason on some windows installs I would hash ethash algo normal for a little while then it would snap and eth / etc hashrate would crash but exp, pirl, musicoin etc the hashrate was normal. So if the same thing is happening to you then mining on claymore it would mine your normal hashrate then crash the hashrate on while mining the dev fee for claymore.. then go back to normal when you connect back to your normal pool. I never figured out what caused this but i no longer have this issue.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 570/580 Nitro+ ETH Mining Core Overclocks/Underclocks on: May 28, 2018, 07:06:15 PM
You can probably get that vcore down to 860-900 depending on the card without issue

Your core speed should be 1100-1175 imo.. i'd test 1100 then 1150 then 1175 an see where increase in core speed stops increasing hashrate.

1340 is way to high for Ethash algo

14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO FIRST SSL BLOCKCHAIN: CryptoNote Privacy + Smart Contracts on: May 22, 2018, 10:56:50 PM
Any new larger exchanges on the horizon?

Stocks is heavily manipulated,

Maybe its me but I've noticed a lot of 51 / 102 dero buy and sells day in day out to keep the price low it's uncanny.




No, it is not only you, I saw yesterday a price manipulation at 14:00 pm with transactions of 50 and 18 DERO, that for two hours someone buy and sell constantly to increase the price. Do not get me wrong is good that the price increase. However, this technique is not ethical to do it, and also in not real, in long term will make real damage to the project. I know a lot of people will attack this comment, but to prove it, just see the graphics in tradeogre before making it.

Some whale is also spoofing the buy side.. dropping 1-3 btc buy orders.. to push the new buy orders above their large buy order.. but once the price drops to their buy order they pull it and move it down a little while later. Its illegal in stock market, futures market, forex markets.. but its the wild wild west in crypto an most exchanges are likely doing little to actually stop this as i've seen spoofing on numerous exchanges in real time. Its probably best to ignore insanely large buy or sell orders on both side of the book because they're likely going to be withdrawn before the price hits its target. Not sure if its actual people doing this in real time or if its HFT algorithms.. i know HFTs are involved in crypto and have been for years if i'm not mistaken. If someone drops a large sell order on the sell side they're trying to push the price down.. if they're dropping a large buy order on the buy side they're trying to push the price up. (if they remove the order when its price is triggered or passed) an then replaced lower down the stack.


how could bot trading or high frequency trading illegal? it is the freedom for the whales to invest time and money to do it. they do price manipulation at their own risk because there may be another bigger whales behind. if you find the game is unfair to you, just not joining this game.

I didn't say HFT was illegal. Most markets on the planet allow HFT which is ridiculous because it should be illegal. They usually rent a virtual private server right next to the exchange and run an algo that can react in factions of a second scalping incoming orders.. front running trades. That being said I didn't say it was illegal. I said spoofing the markets in an attempt to move the price of an asset in a particular direction is illegal. Essentially its creating large orders in the order book to move an asset price up or down and if the price of the asset gets to the large order they pull it before its executed because the order wasn't place in good faith it was placed to manipulate the market.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO FIRST SSL BLOCKCHAIN: CryptoNote Privacy + Smart Contracts on: May 22, 2018, 06:27:40 PM
Any new larger exchanges on the horizon?

Stocks is heavily manipulated,

Maybe its me but I've noticed a lot of 51 / 102 dero buy and sells day in day out to keep the price low it's uncanny.




No, it is not only you, I saw yesterday a price manipulation at 14:00 pm with transactions of 50 and 18 DERO, that for two hours someone buy and sell constantly to increase the price. Do not get me wrong is good that the price increase. However, this technique is not ethical to do it, and also in not real, in long term will make real damage to the project. I know a lot of people will attack this comment, but to prove it, just see the graphics in tradeogre before making it.

Some whale is also spoofing the buy side.. dropping 1-3 btc buy orders.. to push the new buy orders above their large buy order.. but once the price drops to their buy order they pull it and move it down a little while later. Its illegal in stock market, futures market, forex markets.. but its the wild wild west in crypto an most exchanges are likely doing little to actually stop this as i've seen spoofing on numerous exchanges in real time. Its probably best to ignore insanely large buy or sell orders on both side of the book because they're likely going to be withdrawn before the price hits its target. Not sure if its actual people doing this in real time or if its HFT algorithms.. i know HFTs are involved in crypto and have been for years if i'm not mistaken. If someone drops a large sell order on the sell side they're trying to push the price down.. if they're dropping a large buy order on the buy side they're trying to push the price up. (if they remove the order when its price is triggered or passed) an then replaced lower down the stack.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO FIRST SSL BLOCKCHAIN: CryptoNote Privacy + Smart Contracts on: May 20, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
Hi Serena & team DERO,

Apart from making a clear statement with Atlantis release that DERO prefers to go back to ASIC-resistance, is there a longer term business vision available for us, explaining how you will distinguish from all the other alts out there and bring volume/value ($) to the coin? If you look at the charts (go to https://coinlib.io/coin/DERO/DERO and select YTD), we can't ignore there is quite an important link of volume and price with ASIC's mining which, if I assume, will drop significantly after the Atlantis release ?


I don't think it has anything to do with ASICs. Whales have been buying sell stacks raising the price dramatically for short bursts. This has been happening since Dero was 45 cents popping to 80 cents.. drops to 45 cents pops to 80 cents.. then when news of atlantis was coming in a month or so price shot up to around 2.00.. still seeing spikes from someone buying the sell stack. Its just whales accumulating in short bursts.

If anything the ASICs are the ones who are dumping their coins on the market trying to make their ROI on the ASIC in the shortest time possible. The Dero GPU mining community are more likely HODLers.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO FIRST SSL BLOCKCHAIN: CryptoNote Privacy + Smart Contracts on: May 20, 2018, 01:03:43 AM
Honestly, this thread has been bumming me out, I’ve been a staunch supporter of Dero for months now and used to love the community’s helpful, synergistic vibe. I used to visit this thread and the Dero forum multiple times a day, but find myself coming less and less. The holier-than-thou approach of the team to an outpouring of disappointment from their early supporters and the toxicity that breeds has killed what I used to love coming to this community for.

Whos toxic lol and what 'outpouring of disappointment'

The only things i'm disappointed in is the fact i didn't discover this project sooner, the fact that stocks.exchange couldn't figure out withdrawals easily resulting in me not buying piles of Dero at 45 cents, the fact that ASICs came along making it so I couldn't mine Dero for a considerable amount of time.

As for the project this is literally the project I'm most excited about and believe has the best chance of mooning to be a top coin.

The devs are keeping their project close to the chest which is why they're not out promoting it.. instead focusing on completing their objective. The only person I remember reading that was getting all salty in this ANN thread is a guy who wanted their source code with no logical reason for needing it this early (only reason I could think of why he was so insistent was he wanted to copy the work and attempt to complete it before the 3 man Dero team using a large backer, massive team, millions in marketing money, taking first move advantage and make it appear as though Dero was a clone of their work) <-- could totally be wrong about the last part but i don't think I am
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bytom Mining - ASIC algorithm now cracked by GPU miners? Big profits? on: May 18, 2018, 04:29:12 AM
Any way to find the setup for gpu mining this? I would love to test it out.

You can load the miner on a linux box and run it.  I converted one of my SMOS miners over to it.

what kind of hashrates are you getting and with what equipment / power draw?
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bytom Mining - ASIC algorithm now cracked by GPU miners? Big profits? on: May 18, 2018, 04:23:10 AM
Does anyone have a translation of the uupool linked page about GPU mining and if the Google translation of the page is correct? I'm currently away from my PC right now and my Chinese isn't good enough to translate what's written in the page you linked. I'm trying to access the Google translate site on mobile but it redirects me to the app that isn't capable of translating the whole thing.

Otherwise, it's quite interesting that someone managed to crack the Bytom algo. I suspected it was minable by regular GPUs when I found the B3s were powered by Sophon chips, but now I guess we have a confirmation. I wonder if this'll have a large impact on existing B3 miners now- it shouldn't be too big of a deal considering the B3s should still mine much faster than any GPUs that are capable of mining Bytom.

If a 1060 and a 1050ti is hashing 265h/s and the b3 is hashing 780h/s then no its not faster than the gpus. It would be marginally more energy efficent though but not a whole lot. I'm gonna assume the 1060 is doing 60% of that 265h/s that puts the 1060 at about 160h/s. 780/160=4.9 1060s. 1060s seem to be reasonably energy efficient so without knowing anything at all lets assume 120w per card.. 600w total vs 376w.

The question I have is if these really are ASICs built for an algorithm thats supposedly built for ASICs.. why isn't it substantially more efficient like normal ASICs that were built for algos that weren't designed to be on ASICs? I feel like they're probably more powerful and they're redirecting the majority of the computational power of the device somewhere else but getting the miner to pay for the hardware an power they're siphoning off for personal profit.

Or maybe i'm just dumb Tongue
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI on: May 17, 2018, 04:00:55 AM
You are wrong. Smiley

Well that makes me sad. Mining Lux with an FPGA was the only reason i was following this thread!
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