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2001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 11:51:31 AM
Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.
Lottery tickets.
Seriously  Tongue
Heh, penny stocks was taken. Also, it depends on how you view the question before or after the lottery.
Penny stocks have same volume?

I am still asking seriously.
Michael Milken made a fortune with his junk bonds and penny stocks. In the 1980's boiler rooms built the Wall Street nest of vipers we have today.
edit: I'm talking about asset classes. As far as individual assets, maybe BRK.A or military contracted industrials if you count stock splitting.
2002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 11:41:47 AM
Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.
Lottery tickets.
Seriously  Tongue
Heh, penny stocks was taken. Also, it depends on how you view the question before or after the lottery.
2003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.
Lottery tickets.
2004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
The old double-sneak bull-trap bear-reach-around pattern. I'm not afraid of the price falling, I'm afraid of what will be born in the Spring.  Grin
2005  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan is officially a Bitcoin friendly country on: October 24, 2014, 11:06:13 AM
Irrelevant. Japs have been irrelevant for a long time.
That's a very irreverent remark.  Grin
2006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
Cheap coins on sale now. Mr Bearwhale has made a generous donation.  Smiley

Give it up. Nobody falls for the "cheap coins" thing anymore.

Look at all the positive things going on in bitcoin. 2 years from now everyone will be calling today's coins cheap, even the perma-bears. The network is growing much faster than bitcoin price, but it'll catch up once consumers have more of a reason to use it (as all of these projects develop).

Especially with remittances and projects similar to btcjam and openbazzar come out.

Right now most people are selling, but when consumerism increases hopefully you won't miss the boat.
It's not that. When (not IF) the panic buying "correction" comes in, good luck getting in a trade before it peaks again. All you get is cancelled orders and apologies from the exchanges.
2007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan is officially a Bitcoin friendly country on: October 24, 2014, 10:08:19 AM
but the MT.GOX  incident has affected his reputation.

Agree, unless MtGox CEO will make harakiri, Japanese will never let it go.
Is it still okay to make cultural epithets toward Japanese people? My PC meter broke after Obama took office.
2008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: October 24, 2014, 10:02:09 AM
Wake me up when Bitcoin is in a multi trillion deficit, then maybe economists will take it seriously.   Cheesy
2009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 24, 2014, 09:50:27 AM
SC won't solve Bitcoin's scalability because they will optimize spamming Bitcoin for metadata. We'll be right back to the block size argument again. In fact, they will make it happen much faster.
2010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 08:54:57 AM
8 days left before commenting period for Russian law against Bitcoin.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2k6aiq/20141024_8_days_left_before_commenting_period_for/
Please keep us posted. We're hoping for another Russian Bitcoin ban.
2011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 08:47:31 AM
odd. We broke that wall at around $350 and now we heading back up?
it's hard to tell
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2012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 24, 2014, 06:29:31 AM

The Blockstream team has made it CLEAR they have NO interest into alternative currencies built on a sidechain. This is absolutely not their vision of sidechain and it is explained repeatedly in the white paper.

Quote
Adam Back
sidechains are a generic extension mechanism. we hope many people make use of the sidechain extension mechanism to add innovative new features centered around the bitcoin currency.




from the White Paper Appendix C
Quote
Atomic swaps
Once a sidechain is operational, it is possible for users to exchange coins atomically between chains,
without using the peg.
It sounds like altcoins to me.
2013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 06:22:47 AM
Schisms. This is why there can be only one Bitcoin Temple. Otherwise there's gods everywhere.
2014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 24, 2014, 05:32:02 AM
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What if the exchange function specified that after time/block N, the exchange rate is 1 BTC = 0 Micros ? No more arb.

Not to be pedantic, but the point is that the exchange rate can be defined by "any deterministic function". Seems to me that there are probably many classes of deterministic functions which could prevent value from moving back to bitcoin.

Then I suppose bitcoin would be lost, only affecting users of the side chain.  Arb could still be done with micros that hadn't matured.  As long as the exchange rate is deterministic and not stochastic.

Not sure I follow. If there's no way to move bitcoin to the sidechain, the arb channel is closed, and bitcoin cannot benefit from increased purchasing power of the sidecoin. This is only relevant after all the sidecoins have been created/unlocked/whatever. Is that what you mean by "matured"?

Maybe I should have said expire.  So you are saying the exchange rate can cease to exist after a certain time/block N for the entire side chain?  Or, once you convert a coin, that coin cannot be exchanged back after a certain time/block N?


The former: After time N for the whole chain, global exchange rate goes to 1 BTC = 0 Sidecoin. I see nothing preventing the exchange rate function from being able to be specified this way.

Then the sidechain would effectively become a separate chain... an altcoin.  I guess this is a question for the devs.
Of course not. They can force a two-way peg through regulation. /s
2015  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin's Season of the Witch on: October 24, 2014, 04:48:44 AM
It's human nature to have doubts. Nothing has changed in the Bitcoin protocol, yet developers are espousing creating altcoins under the new moniker of "sidechains." It's all because of the fear of sustainable competition. What happens when one of these sidechains becomes bigger than Bitcoin? When I eventually read the side chain white paper, I will see the same fallacious arguments proposed in all the other altcoin papers. "Bitcoin mining will destroy the environment! Therefore Bitcoin must (Proof of) Burn!" Are we creating our own Season of the Witch here?
2016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Andresen Proposes Bitcoin Hard Fork to Address Network Scalability on: October 24, 2014, 03:58:18 AM
"If Bitcoin is to remain decentralized, it must have larger blocks."
Of course we need bigger blocks. Some people still think scrypt is a good idea in that bigger memory requirements improve decentralization. Bigger is better. Why can't this "scrypt mentality" work for block size too? If the blocks are bigger, then Bitcoin will be more decentralized. It's the same argument for Litecoin, except on a different scale. With Litecoin the notion was that the CPU would dominate mining because it would be unaffordable to develop ASICs to handle the memory requirements. With block size doubling it is believed it will be unaffordable for people to transmit and store the blockchain. This example uses contradictory notions about size to make the point that size doesn't matter. This is not a cryptology (or philosophy) problem, it is an engineering problem. "Scotty, get me Warp Nine!"
2017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 02:43:04 AM
Cheap coins on sale now. Mr Bearwhale has made a generous donation.  Smiley
2018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2014, 04:15:22 AM
I think speculators are guessing that an altcoin will replace Bitcoin or that Bitcoin 2.0 derivatives will make Bitcoin unnecessary as a store of value. They will see the error in their presumptions.
2019  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The Mining Incentive on: October 19, 2014, 04:07:05 AM
Well, if you don't want folks to fall for this 'bad' investment and sully the coin and possibly ruin their lives and time and frustrations.
Then you agree the mining reward should be abolished. Fix the problem.  Roll Eyes

Then lets get rid of those pesky transaction fees too.  That's stealing.

Nobody should need to actually work for what they receive.  All means of earning should be abolished for the good of mankind.

Edit: on a more serious note, if you abolish the reward you abolish coin generation and abolish the coin altogether.

So what you really want is to abolish Bitcoin.
This
2020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 19, 2014, 02:39:28 AM
So who can explain how Bitshares or Counterparty is going to issue shares on the Blockchain?

Will a company issuing 1M shares attach these permanently to 1M Satoshi's? How does the market trade an independent value for the shares if a Satoshi goes to $100 per or if a tx free goes to $100 per?
For one thing if a Satoshi goes to $100 per, then it's certain the decimal point will be moved another eight places to the right long beforehand and your shares can be re-issued.
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