Als Sozialist bin ich überzeugt das kein Mensch mehr als ein Bitcoin besitzen sollte.
Abgesehen von mir natürlich.

Yes there aren't all strings included, I (or someone else) have to build those files everytime something changed (last time I build is some days ago). That's why I said you can't start translation now. As soon as the UI is finish we can start coordinating the translations.

I don't need the Bitcoins yet.

I already made a small documentation-file about how to start translating. It's in the documentation folder: https://github.com/Open-Transactions/Moneychanger/blob/master/documentation/translating
Should be very easy with the Qt Linguist tool (it's the same for all Qt applications).

But yes, please don't start translating yet.

HI, where did you look in OT or in Moneychanger?

It's all in the Master branch of Moneychanger: https://github.com/Open-Transactions/Moneychanger

translation.h/.cpp, the settings UI, the example translations in /src/Translations, etc

@FT: Like I said I'm ok to receive the bounty when R1 is out. If you want to send it already now you cold send it to: 1BVh8G6P2T8zjS89EF9eTCiNq4wunPyGCG

When will it be ready?


FT wants to integrate Bitmessage like this into Moneychanger.

I don't see what's misleading, it does exactly what #bitcoin-otc and Localbitcoins.com does just decentralized (expect the WoT at the beginning).
I don't call it a decentralized exchange, I call it a decentralized market. The actual exchanging has still to be done manually by the users.

"My tool enables a decentralized market to find offers for all kind of stuff"
Yes, trading is done outside, like localbitcoins and #bitcoin-otc.

But your right, my tl;dr: is wrong, I've changed that. It's not decentralized trading, it's a tool to show market offers (like http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php).

[DOTC] Decentralized Market Tool
Decentralized #bitcoin-otc / localbitcoins.com / Silkroad alternative

tl;dr: Decentralized order book over Bitmessage. Future: integration of decentralized WoT

The idea is from FelloTraveler (Open Transactions), where he wants to use Bitmessage for OT transactions. I plan to integrate this into Moneychanger for OT too, but first I'll make it for plain Bitcoin.

My tool enables a decentralized market to find offers for all kind of stuff, but mainly for things traded against Bitcoins. This is done by using Bitmessages Decentralized Mailing Lists (DML).

Definition of Decentralized Market
A market structure that consists of a network of various technical devices that enable investors to create a marketplace without a centralized location.
In a decentralized market, technology provides investors with access to various bids/ask prices and makes it possible for them to deal directly with other investors/dealers rather than with a given exchange.

# Example creating an offer to sell BTC with CHF:
A bid (including the amount) from your Bitmessage-address is send to the channel where it stays for ~2 days (livetime of a Bitmessage) or until you remove it with a delete message. Every client will keep this offer for 10 days, but new clients will only be possible to receive the offer in the first 2 days. The application parses these bids and shows them in a orderbook (including the reputation/trust-level of this Bitmessage-Address, see below). The buyer can now choose a price he wants to pay and a BM which he thinks has good enough reputation, and click "Request Trade" on a bid offer for a trade he wants to do. The application then sends a Bitmessage to the creater of this offer, which he can accept or decline (depending on the trust-level).
Everything from now is done manually by the user (contacting seller for exchanging payment-informations (bank, Paypal, etc)).

### Bitmessage Decentralized Mailing Lists (DML)
Using DML you can create public and private exchanges. If you decide to publish your DML-Name (which is also used as passphrase) it will be accessible to everyone. See https://bitmessage.org/wiki/DML

You can create a channel for everything you want to trade:
USD/BTC, BTC/USD, LTC/BTC, BTC/LTC, BTC/Potatos, Potatos/BTC, WeedCH/BTC etc.

### Trust and reputation
The problem for person to person trading is that you need to trust your trading partner (like you need to trust MtGox etc for classic exchanges).

The best solution for this problem is a distributed (decentralized) identity and reputation database (web of trust).
The application automatically shows the reputation of the ask/bid using the Bitmessage-Address of the sender.
So far there is no yet usable distributed reputation db, but there is identifi.org by sirius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130137.msg2391518) which looks very promising.

To start with I'm planning to use the WoT Database of bitcoin-otc.com, where you have to trust nanotube (the owner), which is ok I think


#### Benefits:
+ No central point of failure
+ Finding offers and communication is anonymous and encrypted
+ Private & Public "Exchanges" for all kind of stuff

############


More Snapshots: https://www.wuala.com/reqxa/LUCAS_Privat_Web/DOTC/UI/Snapshots?key=c2irXXqUySia

There is no reputation system included so far. But I want to do this as soon as the BM-Indtification for #bitcoin-otc is done. I hope somebody can help me with this, as it is written in Python..
The applications dependency is a running Bitmessage (GUI or daemon mode), like Armory needs bitcoind.

What has to be done / What you could contribute:
- Feedback & new ideas for features and improvements
- Testing
- Integrate BM-Inditication to the #bitcoin-otc WoT (https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor)
- Create an icon
- Create a simple, static website (Download, list of public channels, FAQ, hosted on github)
- Translate into other languages
- Implement the Request / Accept trade part

As everyone can parse a public channel one could also build a public webseite that displays the offers of a specific channel.

I think I will have a working development version at the end of the next weekend,which I will publish here.

Sooo, what do you think about this? Is it worth keep on spending my time on this project?

There is Bitcoin Wallet for Testnet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet_test

But you still wont have any Testnet-Bitcoins when installing it..

Also so ne Paywall für Bitcoins gibts ja schon.

Aber ganz ehrlich, die Desktop Wallets sind noch nicht bereit für den Mainstream, deshalb würd ich noch abwarten.

Ich hab meine vom Christkind gekriegt.

Also wenn ich 1 BTC investieren möchte würd ich mir jedenfalls eher virtuelle Hardware bei Evolyn kaufen als sie jemandem ausleihen..
Ich mein er hat im Thread ja ganz klar aufgelistet wie das ganze funktioniert und am Ende wird dabei mindestens 1 Bier für mich rausschauen!

Oh, bin ich wohl nicht der einzige mit mehr als 20'000.
Bei der nächsten Umfrage gehts dann um den Bank-Konto stand?

Es ist ein neuer Ansatz, deshalb muss man noch lange nicht gleich Scam schreien. Warum sollte es nicht funktionieren? Ich find seine Beschreibung durchaus nachvollziehbar und machbar.

Formell entschieden wurde nichts. Da zurzeit formell auch nur 3 Mitglieder sind. Die Liste war ja nicht verbindlich.
Es gibt nun eine Webseite wo man sich dann als Mitglied beitreten kann.

Es gab jedoch informelle Abstimmungen und Diskussionen. Der Beitritt zur Foundation wurde klar abgelehnt (auch vom Präsidenten), jedoch wird man sich um eine Zusammenarbeit mit allen Verein bemühen. Beim Mitgliederbeitrag gab es viele verschiedene Meinungen und noch keine klare richtung, der wird dann wohl an der nächsten Versammlung beschlossen (wo dann alle interessierten Leute bereits Mitglied sind und stimmrecht haben).

Was ist denn nun besser, zwei BigBang oder ein Plank ?

Weil BigBang klingt schon vielversprechender. Klingt nach mehr bums.

Ach, ich fang mal klein an, einen BigBang für mich 

Hier das Video der Versammlung:
https://plus.google.com/117619289210372570957/posts/Tbe6u7KmAAR
Waren so ~40 Leute.

Wir treten vorerst nicht der Internationalen Foundation bei 

I think you misunderstand libbitcoin. It's not a altcoin, it's a alternative implementation of Bitcoin but with the same blockchain, same protocol etc etc.
So it's the same Bitcoin, the same coins.
It's still a very important project (more important than yet another altcoin) as it is absolutely independent from the foundation.
You might just donate some of the mined Bitcoins you made to the DarkWallet fundraising, which is also from them (and using libbitcoin as a server-backend) to support it.

Zu spät :/ ^^

@OP Marcopolo123 bitte durch das ersetzen

Will 80% of the people attending the party be Chinese? xD

I'd also prefer 10k$ as I'll be traveling for a few months starting in January (leaving Europe)

Source Code lesen ist ja normalerweise kein Problem, egal in was für einer Sprache. Da kannst du einfach das ganze 1-1 nach PHP portieren.

Ich glaub nicht dass das jemand besser Erklären kann als bei Wikipedia oder was man halt sonst noch so im Internet findet, wenns dir zu schwer ist verwende eine Library. Da die auch von vielen Leuten verwendet, getestet und geprüft sind sind sie einer Eigenimplementierung meistens sowieso überlegen.


Vertrauen in Bitcoin kannst du wohl am besten mit der Erkenntnis aufbauen das, obwohl es 6 Milliarden wert hat, noch keiner das ganze geknackt hat.