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661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: December 15, 2017, 01:04:35 AM
For many people, gambling is the best spare time activity that they enjoy doing especially in the weekends. I'm not a big gambler. I play occasionally but it actually feels good to play and win. It makes you feel exited and hapmy especially when you play with people you know or your mates. I don't see gambling as a need to do activity, but it is a great choice when it comes to having fun.
People feel it's a must to gamble because they have got addicted, actually they want to leave gambling forever, because it was never easy they just moving forward like a zombie, I do believe the real circumstances are like that. Fill in your spare time to gamble would only result additional problem instead having fun.
662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 15, 2017, 12:39:27 AM
Hey! guys i need your opinion and help because i didn't know about this trading thing i only know about how you can earn bitcoin by gambling but still my friend told me that gambling is not the way to earn bitcoin but if you try trading you will earn much profit why is that so guys? trading is better than bitcoin? how? why? where to find that trading thing?

I do gambles and also i do trading . Gambling is just to spend my time or for entertainment because im not that lucky person that always winning i do more prefer trading because i do have the full control of my coin and every thing unlike gambling that i is relying on mostly luck and a little strategy. Gambling is really risky for me because you tend to lose it unlike trading that you just need some knowledge about that coin then you are good.
Really trading with technical analysis far better than gamble with any kind strategy. The house edge makes gambling become a bad choice where trading nothing like that. Just people and the market a place where you can make profit.
663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 15, 2017, 12:05:34 AM
do you like slot games ?
I liked Slot Games, playing slots for fun and for but the making money out of it would be really hard.
As slots games are totally depending on our luck therefore we can only play it for fun and enjoyment, while for making money i think we have a very good option and that is sports gambling, from ports gambling we have very good chances to make good profit from it.
You should never expect to get a real profit from gambling , you might would only suffering huge disappointment. Especially in slot machine where everything comes quickly and you pushed to make more bets but actually you know it would make you lost bigger than to win it , the winning chance in slot are so small, forget it and just hoping for luck.

That is correct and that is specially true if you play on games that are based on pure luck. But with games that require skills to have more chances of winning like poker and sportsbetting, these can be a good source of income.
Nothing you can expect in gambling but the luck. Hoping for steady income in gambling feel like looking for completing the mission impossible. Slot should be played with your extra money and also in your spare time, not as your primary target to make money there , it's a big mistake if you think so.

I think it's fair to go in to gambling, with slots especially, with the mindset of making profit.. After all profits are the biggest reason that we do gamble when it all comes down to one reason. Anyone saying otherwise is either lying or have never gambled Cheesy
You can't make profit in gambling especially expect to get a steady income. Slot has high house edge that's why the rewards usually really big more than you can imagine, people come to play slot because of this reason. In hope to get a huge luck to win the jackpot prize.
664  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: December 14, 2017, 11:44:29 PM
Peeps Place 11-24-17 -  "They will definitely be downgraded. I'll wait until Monday."



Summary -

Cloudbet's "Forgot your password?" does not work - no reset ever sent after about 6 attempts on different days.
No response to my emails beginning 13 days ago.
I assume you've received no response for 9 days.

Shouldn't this make them an "F" at this point?

Zero customer support, software for reset password doesn't work.

What more does it take to say they are non-functional?
 

I'm going to reach out to them one more time. It would be nice to at least hear what they have to say.


6 more days since you reached out to them one more time = 15 days for you waiting for a response and 19 days for me.

What's going on? Still no downgrade? Still no response?

Cloudbet downgraded to C-. I'll reach out to then again and if there's no reply, another downgrade will be issued.


"Cloudbet downgraded to C-. I'll reach out to then again and if there's no reply, another downgrade will be issued."

Have you heard from them?

It is now 22 days since you began trying to get a response from them and you've made at least 3 attempts, perhaps more.

It is now 26 days since I started trying to get a response and likewise 26 days and multiple attempts to get their "Did you forget your password" to respond to me since I can't login.

If you have not heard from them they are non-functional and should be an F.
Yet I see that they are still C-.


If you did hear from them, when was that and what did they say?
How much money you deposited there? I mean how much money you have played there so far? Is it big money or not? As based on my experience they are seems abandoned, if you play with a little amount of money you would feel fine everything works automatically like an instant withdrawal etc. but the support are indeed terrible, I have tried to forgot password too and the link did not sent to my mail just get nothing. They should get a serious warning, the support really inactive.
665  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how risky is day trading? on: December 13, 2017, 09:14:27 PM
The level of the risk depend on the your strategy, if you have good risk management and good trading plan so the risk will be lower. Because now the price soar for the better doing short trade and take profit between 10%-30% and then wait again with patient to get deepest price. Dont be greedy and keep emotion will enable to gain consistent profit.
Yeah with the current volatility it's the golden moment to make a day trading, bigger risk you take bigger opportunity you can make money there. Taking 10 percent or even just 5 percent daily are more than enough as long as you can make it steady one then.
666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 13, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
I think for addicted person it is not possible to quit the gambling because these addicted people will take short term loans to gamble but at last they will end up in loss. For them it is very hard to quit the gambling and they don't have choice to solve their loans taken from the other people.
Never say impossible, there always a way to do anything. As long as you have a strong will and a continuous efforts I don't think it's impossible. Even though you're an addict, there's a lot of things you can do like having a therapy, switch your gambling habit with something that more useful and talk with people around you about this problem can solve this matter.
667  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Patience and Holding on: December 12, 2017, 11:06:16 PM
yes,I am doing same as well.one of the big amount of btc I withdraw from bittrex but now btc up & up.
so I learn so much from my big mistake. holding is the best option to increase your money.
It's just because of the price of Bitcoin escalate quickly to the highest, no wonder peopl talking bs about how better holding it is than have to trade it. Now imagine if the alt coin price you hold escalating as high as Bitcoin or even better, what do you do? Remain talking about holding are better? I don't think so.
668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 12, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
do you like slot games ?
I liked Slot Games, playing slots for fun and for but the making money out of it would be really hard.
As slots games are totally depending on our luck therefore we can only play it for fun and enjoyment, while for making money i think we have a very good option and that is sports gambling, from ports gambling we have very good chances to make good profit from it.
You should never expect to get a real profit from gambling , you might would only suffering huge disappointment. Especially in slot machine where everything comes quickly and you pushed to make more bets but actually you know it would make you lost bigger than to win it , the winning chance in slot are so small, forget it and just hoping for luck.

That is correct and that is specially true if you play on games that are based on pure luck. But with games that require skills to have more chances of winning like poker and sportsbetting, these can be a good source of income.
Nothing you can expect in gambling but the luck. Hoping for steady income in gambling feel like looking for completing the mission impossible. Slot should be played with your extra money and also in your spare time, not as your primary target to make money there , it's a big mistake if you think so.
669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to know if a gambling site is a scam or not? on: December 12, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
I don't like websites that ask for your credentials such as credit card number , passport , photo or whatever info that are private and that might be used in illicit activities if they fall into the wrong hands , so i always get away from such websites , also you can try yourself or just see reviews on the internet and that will totally satisfy your curiosity in no time at all .
That wasn't a correct reference to accusing certain site . If you know that the site are legalized and well known publicly also have been used for long time then KYC procedure like that are not something that totally wrong . Unless if there's a strange and new built site asking for that, you have to be careful, it's clearly not right.
670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Forks are helpful For Bitcoin? If forks happen then will price go up? on: December 12, 2017, 10:06:04 PM
Not all forks are good for bitcoin, most of the forked coins were created by bunch of greedy guys who don't have innovative mind and just like to clone other's work.

If there will be huge hype around some forks than people might buy bitcoin to just sell both forked coin and bitcoin after fork so such pumps might not be stable.
agree with your words, not all good forks increase in value because most of the branched coins are created by people who are greedy and that's all there is a game of people who are not responsible for the value they make so unstable
Bitcoin cash and Bitcoin gold should be the last fork ever , the stakeholders should make a prevention step to make sure another fork behalf Bitcoin won't happened again and again in the future, it's abused already I think recently.
671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The USA officially recognized Bitcoin — what now? on: December 12, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Be careful about this event. This means banks and funds will be able to buy large amount of BTCs, if they will own 20/30% of market share, they would be able to pump the price and short in few minutes to get profit, the effects could be devastating for small investors.
Be careful and smart.
Bitcoin are decentralized , there is no way to make it centralized no matter if then there's someone who hold more than 50% out of total Bitcoin available.sooner or later when they decide to sell it all it will be back to centralized just the matter of time.
672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 12, 2017, 07:59:32 PM
Yes , they are right because soon or later , all your winning money is gone and replace by a huge debt with it.
Basically everything that you have earned from gambling would gone if you looking to gamble it again in the next time you have a chance to do it . Then better to save it , quit and stay away from gambling as long as possible to not back to play.
673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 12, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
There are pointers on how to play gambling in a smart way and one of the best pointer is play with your free money. Following this pointer will make you gamble and have fun at the same time.  It will not affect your family negatively and will always save you from being broke.  Most gambler failed to practice this kind of stuff and get broke since they spend all their money in gamlbing.

Yeah, free money. Gambling sites have faucets and some has giveaways, it is a good to start with those if you don't want to move the money for your family.

It is also a good practice since most of the coins you get from gambling site is just small. The only downside of that is when you are already a heavy gambler, dusts won't satisfy you in betting. Instead, it would make you crave more and start to deposit in your bankroll.
If you really want to gamble and have no money in your pockets then going with these websites which offer gambling free of cost is a very good idea. But let me inform you one thing, these websites are not basically free, they do get money on every single signup and that is your money with which you are gambling and you think that they are giving you a free service and they also cut some money from your winnings.
You should know that kind offers are part of their promotion, they know that gambling are addictive and those people who give a shot on it would come back to try and then play with real money and even with big money due can't stop playing in the long run.
674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: December 12, 2017, 12:33:46 PM
Since I don't play with money I can't afford to lose, my worst moments are when I realize that I spent almost all day gambling. Losing a lot of time to gambling is a bad thing too apart from losing money. I wish I learned something useful instead of gambling all day long.
Yeah when you gamble continuously it's feels like you are going nowhere just stand there and didn't move. I mean when you've won $100 then you gamble it again and you lost that $100 , won again $100 and so on you are back to the first point. Even worse you could become broke and wasted time at once, terrible really.
It's really addicting so even we already got something but we are going to play back and lose it again and again, though some of us might have some
control and take this opportunity but most are not, We do have our own versions of experience about worst decisions and what is common is the results
that happen, losing or ending up busted.
That's the nature, no wonder a lot of people says and agree that in the long run you won't make it profitable. So don't expect gambling could give you a good income nor a good entertainment. Treat it like you will only play it for the last time or like buying a lottery ticket to win big.
675  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: December 12, 2017, 12:02:08 PM
The biggest mistake while you are watching huge price increase to read the people opinions in the chat or telegram groups. People are talking crazy things and they to much excited to think clear, logical and follow their strategy. If you unexperienced trader it's good idea just hodl strong assets like BTC or ETH for long term.
Just Bitcoin! You will be the rich with Bitcoin in next few years, but remember it still depends on the amount of money you will spend to buy Bitcoin and invest for long term. It does not mean you will be the rich within short time and you do not have any risk. But if Bitcoin can not increase in the value, Ethereum will not increase its value too.
Actually if you can look for the opportunity on alt coins trading you could produce much more bitcoin instead by just hold it , but well if you can't afford to do that , go ahead holding Bitcoin for long term. Just makes sure you won't regret it later when you see a lot of people have make much more money than you do.
676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is the martingale working or not ? on: December 12, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
I think martingale is not working in any gambling games, martingale is the way of betting, not depend on the games, we have see a lot of streak lose in dice sites because we played it many times when you play roulette with the same amount I think you will see many streak lose

I have try a lot of games with martingale and all result is the same, and the worst game to used martingale is sportbet
Uncertainty will remain uncertain, so you would always receive unexpected outcome. When you think it's impossible to get more than 30 losing streaks or maybe 10 times in a row the ball hit number 0 on roulette but then it's happened, you would always accusing that it was rigged or something, well it's up to you. The game are fair.
677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: December 11, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
Since I don't play with money I can't afford to lose, my worst moments are when I realize that I spent almost all day gambling. Losing a lot of time to gambling is a bad thing too apart from losing money. I wish I learned something useful instead of gambling all day long.
Yeah when you gamble continuously it's feels like you are going nowhere just stand there and didn't move. I mean when you've won $100 then you gamble it again and you lost that $100 , won again $100 and so on you are back to the first point. Even worse you could become broke and wasted time at once, terrible really.
678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a currency or asset? on: December 11, 2017, 11:02:07 PM
For me bitcoin plays both roles. The company and management of bitcoin serves as the asset of every investor to secure that their future will become successful and free from all kinds of rick.
Another is bitcoin serves as currency in some commercial transaction here in the whole world.
Yeah it is playing as both but in actual it is the currency and is invested as a currency for internet so that people can easily and more conveniently use it for their international online use. And along with that it also became an asset for the traders.
Some people has found Bitcoin as a digital asset rather than a currency to spend in daily basis nowadays I think due some reasons, high fee makes people can't spend it often especially on a micro transactions, a real problem there. Bitcoin should be a future currency not a future digital asset.
679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 11, 2017, 10:47:31 PM
do you like slot games ?
I liked Slot Games, playing slots for fun and for but the making money out of it would be really hard.
As slots games are totally depending on our luck therefore we can only play it for fun and enjoyment, while for making money i think we have a very good option and that is sports gambling, from ports gambling we have very good chances to make good profit from it.
You should never expect to get a real profit from gambling , you might would only suffering huge disappointment. Especially in slot machine where everything comes quickly and you pushed to make more bets but actually you know it would make you lost bigger than to win it , the winning chance in slot are so small, forget it and just hoping for luck.
680  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has turned into a scam coin on: December 07, 2017, 09:27:07 PM
You clearly just simply don't know what a "scam" and "ponzi scheme" is. No one is forcing you to buy and or invest in bitcoin, you decided for yourself. Also, how are exchanges getting hacked the fault of bitcoin? Guess what! Banks have been robbed in the past too! Does it mean that fiat is a scam? NOPE! It doesn't sound like you understand the basics of bitcoin either. There are many other coins which has faster transactions? Why are you here then? Go hop on to those coins then!
I think he just expressed a disappointment, he should make a lot of money but instead get something that what he expected, he simply blame the Bitcoin network that indeed it's very slow confirming the transaction especially a huge amount one even with high fee , he just throw that words emotionally I believe and that's reasonable too.
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