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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 02, 2022, 06:58:02 AM
Transactions take way too long, and are too expensive for a globally adopted currency.
I suggest you start using bitcoin before giving an opinion about its speed and cost.

Bitcoin as a payment system, currently has the fastest transactions among all payment systems including the banking system. The transactions reach their destination immediately (1-2 seconds) and on average it takes 10 minutes for them to become finalized.
In comparison in the traditional systems like the banking system, it takes months for the transaction to be settled and become finalized and same with altcoins considering they need a lot more "confirmation" compared to bitcoin to be considered final and that usually takes hours.

As for transaction fees, in 99% of bitcoin's lifetime the fee has been very low. Currently a normal bitcoin transaction costs about $0.03 which is very cheap.

Come on, 1-2 seconds? In a utopia maybe. In reality purchasing anything you will need to wait for network confirmations, which can take multiple hours. I've used Bitcoin countless times. Comparing that to the traditional system, my transactions don't take hours, rather seconds.

The average transaction fee per 1 September was $1.09, where do you get a $0.03 instant transaction on Bitcoin mainnet?
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 01, 2022, 09:38:26 PM
Even though it'd be mostly pointless since you will not have escaped the traditional monetary system being correlated to the dollar.
The correlation I was trying to make but, its true we can't say it's completely scalable given the fact that, you've got to pay some transaction fee of which have been on the rise due to the by pass of most projects from hosting there ICOs on the bitcoin blockchain to Ethereum's.

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Most stablecoins just run on the Ethereum mainnet, with that, making them unscalable by default. Transaction times and fees of Ethereum. To me, for a cryptocurrency to reach its goal of global adoption, worldwide instant transactions, anywhere anytime. It should, ofcourse have instant transactions - and second, have extremely low fees >$0.01. Especially needed for less developed countries where sometimes in peak network stress fees can go all the way up to monthly salaries.
Speaking of instant transactions with less fees, do you doubt we won't come to that? Not to mention, you could have a fee as low as $1 using whatever exchange to transfer stable coins using Binance smartchain. When the congestion is evenly spread across for most projects, we would have a speedy transactions.

Currently there is zero reason to believe Bitcoin will ever achieve instant transactions with low fees >$0,01 on a global scale. Hence why I made this post, asking if I'm naive for thinking this, is there something I don't know?

Using Binance smartchain isn't solving any existing issue, you're only proving the trifecta problem I stated in my original post. BSC has 21 validators, selected by Binance. The chain is not decentralized, it's a centralized network. You sacrificed decentralization from the trifecta in order to achieve scalability. Trifecta: (decentralization, security, scalability).

Also, $1 fee is still too high for global adoption. In the Netherlands where I live, when I use my bank card to purchase something in a store, I pay $0 in txfees. No ordinary person here will take that txfee burden from crypto. $1 is also way too much money to sacrifice as a fee for most african people, some asian countries too, or poorer people in general. If you buy a $2 coffee and pay $1 txfee. That's a 50% price increase.

3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 01, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
I'm not saying Bitcoin is not secure or decentralized, if I came across that way in the post, it wasn't the intention. I'm saying Bitcoin is not even close to scalable. Transactions take way too long, and are too expensive for a globally adopted currency. It can't scale in real world adoption, unless you sacrifice security, or decentralization by using an alternate network, like El Salvador has attempted.
Expensive; yeah there's an issue of that. However, segwit, and Lightening offer somewhat solutions to the expense problem, and in the future we'll likely see additional steps taken to reduce the transaction fees. However, due to the nature of Bitcoin, fees will always be a part of the network, and I'd rather higher security, a decentralised system to a degree, and paying a fee than giving up those benefits. I mean, a lot of people are already getting fees associated with their cards, they just don't realise it. Especially, if you own a credit card.

This is the reality I see for Bitcoin currently, and I agree I'd also rather have security and decentralization. But if we don't have all 3, where will that take Bitcoin? Will it ever live up to the original dream of becoming a globally mass adopted currency? The idea of being able to send money globally, instantly, securely without intermediary for super low cost was amazing. But it's not living up to that. And if it can't live up to that, where will Bitcoin end up, what will it actually be used for besides investing, trading, mining? That can't last forever, to me, if it doesn't eventually reach a point of mass adoption, being used in daily trade, it will eventually all fall down.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 01, 2022, 08:37:38 PM
To me it seems like there have been talks about BTC becoming scalable for many years now. BTC is decentralized and secure no doubt, but if we don't solve scalability, how can this ever work out? And if BTC doesn't solve the trifecta, perhaps an altcoin will; before bitcoin does.

You are contracting yourself. You said,
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 BTC is decentralized and secure no doubt, but if we don't solve scalability, how can this ever work out?
This your question is even rhetorical question because you have already answered the question by saying that btc is decentralized, and if btc is decentralized how can we solve the scalable nature of bitcoin? I dont think this can be solve. BTC is not own my individual so it will be hard to solve it.

I'm not sure what's rhetorical about it. I said BTC is decentralized and secure, but not scalable. Therefor it's not possible for BTC to 'work out' meaning living up to its goals, becoming a global adopted currency. 'how can this ever work out' asking, how can BTC ever become a global adopted currency without having the trifecta (decentralization, security and scalability), is there any solution? Am I missing something? If you lack any of these 3, you cannot become the advertised global adopted cryptocurrency (as far as I know). There isn't a single cryptocurrency till date that has all 3, every single one has sacrificed one of the three. Examples:

XRP: Scalable, secure. Not decentralized.
BTC: Secure, decentralized. Not scalable.
BCH: Decentralized, scalable. Not secure.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 01, 2022, 08:32:16 PM
Maybe, I'm just missing your point, however; What's your problems with the current security of Bitcoin? I mean, it isn't inherently insecure, otherwise it wouldn't be worth anything. So, what specifically do you not like about it, or what security aspects do you want to improve?

Bitcoin is also almost infinitely scalable. Probably more so than our current mass preferred fiat system. So, there's that. Plus, it's already decentralised more than our fiat system, which already makes it the better option in almost all metrics. Cash isn't as secure as Bitcoin, and I'd argue that electronic money, i.e those that are stored on banking systems also aren't as secure.

So, I'm struggling to really see current problems, but would like to hear them.

A cryptocurrency can't be decentralized, scalable and secure all at the same time.
What exactly are you referring too here. Bitcoin is more scalable in certain areas, but without knowing exactly what limitations you're talking about, I can't really accurately discuss the scalability issues. Are you talking about the storage issue that we might run into etc?

I'm not saying Bitcoin is not secure or decentralized, if I came across that way in the post, it wasn't the intention. I'm saying Bitcoin is not even close to scalable. Transactions take way too long, and are too expensive for a globally adopted currency. It can't scale in real world adoption, unless you sacrifice security, or decentralization by using an alternate network, like El Salvador has attempted.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 01, 2022, 08:20:54 PM
We've got scalability already in the stable coins if you would consider that. Although, bitcoin remains the coin most crypto enthusiast look up to but, there are phases to the currency and network. One can't rush the other. Its a highly scares commodity and to have its fit value, we don't need to rush it but, allow the laws of demand and supply play Its part in setting the ask and bid price. With a few bitcoins yet to be mined, the issue with scalability and volatility will still remain. My speculations puts me at a point of a scalable BTC when the last bitcoin is mined.

I'm not sure I understand, which stable coins are scalable to you? Even though it'd be mostly pointless since you will not have escaped the traditional monetary system being correlated to the dollar. Most stablecoins just run on the Ethereum mainnet, with that, making them unscalable by default. Transaction times and fees of Ethereum. To me, for a cryptocurrency to reach its goal of global adoption, worldwide instant transactions, anywhere anytime. It should, ofcourse have instant transactions - and second, have extremely low fees >$0.01. Especially needed for less developed countries where sometimes in peak network stress fees can go all the way up to monthly salaries.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Will BTC ever become truly scalable, decentralized and secure? Trifecta problem. on: September 01, 2022, 08:08:44 PM
To me it seems like there have been talks about BTC becoming scalable for many years now. BTC is decentralized and secure no doubt, but if we don't solve scalability, how can this ever work out? And if BTC doesn't solve the trifecta, perhaps an altcoin will; before bitcoin does.

I know Blockstream has made some interesting products, by Adam Back (most suspicious person for being Satoshi). But these are all products that are not running on the Bitcoin main network (not decentralized, secure is arguable).

It's my main fear for BTC not succeeding, never becoming scalable. The halvings have been cool in pushing us into new bullruns, but this 4th halving will be a minor decrease in mining rewards compared to the previous ones. Sure we can have other bullish catalysts, but I don't think it will cut it. We've had some of the most bullish (in theory) moments in time for BTC these recent years, but we couldn't latch on; because frankly, Bitcoin is not finished yet. If it could scale on a massive global scale like advertised - It would have been mass adopted during the pandemic and hyper inflation times.

Am I naïve, is there any reasonable chance for BTC to conquer its scalability issue? It's amazing the Byzantine General's problem got solved, but now we've got a 'trifecta' problem. A cryptocurrency can't be decentralized, scalable and secure all at the same time.

8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Core correct way to backup? on: July 05, 2022, 03:59:48 AM
I wanted to know if it's enough for me to simply backup the wallet.dat file on an encrypted USB stick?
Since bitcoin core doesn't support mnemonics that you could write down, the only option is to digitally store the wallet file itself. However, you may want to create more than one backup so that in case you lost the USB stick or it was damaged you could still recover your funds.

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I also wonder, if this wallet.dat file is stolen by someone, but my wallet was encrypted, is the wallet.dat file encrypted? Or was that just a local encryption for my desktop.
The file itself is encrypted.

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I would love to just be able to store my holy wallet.dat file away for many years and be able to re-gain access to my wallet using this file, primarily through other wallets too if Bitcoin Core wallet seizes to exist by then.
That should never happen considering that bitcoin core is the reference implementation of Bitcoin. But it is open source and many people are using it, so it would be trivial to write a simple script that decrypts and extracts the keys inside the wallet file to be used elsewhere.

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And perhaps it's also possible, or necessary to store individual private keys in text on a seperate device such as an encrypted USB stick?
That's an overkill in my opinion.

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I was thinking the private keys could be encoded in an encoding language to make them slightly extra secure incase any thief has no idea what he's doing.
A different encoding would provide no security if the thief knows he is stealing a bitcoin wallet.
Only a strong encryption can provide security.

Thanks a lot for your responses, very helpful.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Bitcoin Core correct way to backup? on: July 05, 2022, 02:58:57 AM
Hello all,

So I decided on which wallet I want to use, which is the Bitcoin Core wallet. It's familiar to an altcoin wallet I used many years ago, in the way that it has to sync all blocks and uses a wallet.dat file as backup.

I wanted to know if it's enough for me to simply backup the wallet.dat file on an encrypted USB stick? This way I can practically remove Bitcoin Core from my desktop and if I ever wanted to send my funds elsewhere I can re-import the wallet.dat file again, but I can still send funds to this wallet.

I also wonder, if this wallet.dat file is stolen by someone, but my wallet was encrypted, is the wallet.dat file encrypted? Or was that just a local encryption for my desktop.

I would love to just be able to store my holy wallet.dat file away for many years and be able to re-gain access to my wallet using this file, primarily through other wallets too if Bitcoin Core wallet seizes to exist by then.

And perhaps it's also possible, or necessary to store individual private keys in text on a seperate device such as an encrypted USB stick? I was thinking the private keys could be encoded in an encoding language to make them slightly extra secure incase any thief has no idea what he's doing.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need helping finding the right wallet for me on: July 04, 2022, 10:20:00 AM
Apart from which wallet to choose, if you're going to keep it for 20 years, you should look into cold storage (if you haven't done it yet). A wallet on a computer connected to the internet is always at risk, and 20 years is a very long time for malware to develop. If it's online and has never been online, at least you can be sure it can't be hacked.

You don't need internet access to export private keys (assuming you're not using a webwallet). That means you can always export private keys if you keep a backup of the wallet software. It doesn't hurt to actually test this to convince yourself. And test your backups (start from scratch with a fresh offline system), to ensure you can restore your addresses from there (ideally before funding them).

This seems to be what I'd like to have indeed. I will test this, thanks!
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need helping finding the right wallet for me on: July 04, 2022, 09:58:42 AM
Let's say I save the private seed of my Exodus wallet, how can I be sure that in 20 years from now, Exodus wallet will still be a working product, that I can download from a new computer perhaps and import my seed into?
You can't.

What you can be sure of is that there will be some wallet software you can import your seed phrase in to. Most wallets which generate seed phrases,* Exodus included, generate them following the BIP39 process, which is well known and well documented. You can take a BIP39 seed phrase from any wallet and import it in to any other BIP39 compatible wallet and recover the same wallet with the same private keys. Even if every piece of wallet software on the planet no longer existed, and for some reason you could not access an old version of any wallet software, then the process to turn the seed phrase in to private keys is still well document and it would be fairly easy for you to recreate your private keys if needed.

The private key of my Bitcoin wallet is different ofcourse, but I do wonder, will this private key allow me to import the address into other wallet softwares? Or do I have to import it on Exodus?
You can import a private key in to any wallet which supports importing individual private keys. Private keys can be used to generate different types of addresses though (most commonly legacy (P2PKH), nested segwit (P2SH-P2WPKH), and native segwit (P2WPKH)), so you'll need to make sure the wallet you are importing to will generate the right address for you.

One thing that also slightly confused me was the fact that when I request my private key from the Exodus wallet, it shows me multiple private keys and public wallets. Two public wallets starting with 'bc1q', and one wallet starting with '157okQ'. Which one would I have to save? When I make a request to receive funds in the wallet it shows my deposit address as one of the bc1q addresses. Will this be the address of which the associated private key is practically my money?
The addresses which begin with "1" are legacy addresses. The addresses which begin with "bc1" are native segwit addresses. It is preferable to use the segwit addresses as they result in smaller transactions and therefore lower fees. In terms of saving your private keys, I wouldn't at all - I would just write down your seed phrase and be comfortable in the knowledge that the seed phrase can recover all those private keys in the future if you need it to.



*Electrum is the most significant outlier here, which uses it's own seed phrase and derivation method. But again, this is widely known and publicized, so even if Electrum no longer exists in 20 years, it would be easy to convert the seed phrase back in to your private keys.



Thanks a lot for your quick detailed response!
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Need helping finding the right wallet for me on: July 04, 2022, 09:45:09 AM
Hello all,

What really intrigues me about Bitcoin is being a true owner of your money, only you having access, being in total control of hard money.

I want to really take advantage of this and store my wealth in Bitcoin, and store the private key/seed for my wallet safely.

I however struggle to find a right wallet to do this with, and I'm also slightly confused in some aspects.

For example, a wallet like Exodus allows you to save private keys of your wallets, but it also allows for saving seeds.
Let's say I save the private seed of my Exodus wallet, how can I be sure that in 20 years from now, Exodus wallet will still be a working product, that I can download from a new computer perhaps and import my seed into? This never made sense to me, I'm depending on the creator of the software it seems to me.

The private key of my Bitcoin wallet is different ofcourse, but I do wonder, will this private key allow me to import the address into other wallet softwares? Or do I have to import it on Exodus?
One thing that also slightly confused me was the fact that when I request my private key from the Exodus wallet, it shows me multiple private keys and public wallets. Two public wallets starting with 'bc1q', and one wallet starting with '157okQ'. Which one would I have to save? When I make a request to receive funds in the wallet it shows my deposit address as one of the bc1q addresses. Will this be the address of which the associated private key is practically my money?

Thanks anyone for taking the time to help me.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 09:41:47 PM
Well what I have gathered from most people here is that they recommend investing in the biggest crypto's around. I understand the argument, but also understand this is simply high risk high reward. In big caps there really isn't that much money to be made anymore.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 02:51:20 PM
Hello all,

During this quarantine time I've been researching more and more into crypto as I don't have much to do. However that's not what this post is about. I have this project called Signature Chain I've been heavily invested in since its launch in September 2018. It's what you could say my "hidden gem" for next bull run. My high risk high reward investment.
I was hoping I could get an outsiders perspective of this project. Keep in mind this project is miniscule, 100k mcap, 3k daily volume.
The project is about certifying the authenticity of digital data in an ease of use way, cost effective and almost instant.

One thing I'd recommend is going into their discord to the announcements channel https://discord.gg/Jq3AwT, or going over to their bitcointalk announcement page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026949.0. This way it'd be easier to see all recent achievements.

Here are some articles to the project:
Mainnet release article from 2 weeks agohttps://medium.com/@signaturechain/signature-chain-full-mainnet-release-d783fcff0d71
Even on the wavesplatform site itself https://wavesplatform.com/use-case/5e4d3b4b3985110010515c86
marketing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgR58B8i9-Q

Before more people say it: CMC is not tracking data because of lack of volume, Coingecko is accurate data.

Give it a look and please share your honest opinion.

Thanks
Even if they are doing their best to develop the project, you should not invest in this project because its volume is too small. You cannot make a profit from this project because no one is interested in it, just ignore it and find other projects better, especially you should choose altcoins with large volumes.

Isn't that what you do with investing though? Invest BEFORE it is in demand, sell AFTER it is in demand. Literally every altcoin has had their low volume/ mcap days, look at the XVG lifetime chart, the exact same as with current SIGN. Except for if you invest in tokens that did ICO's which I personally am not a fan of.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
The coin is not active again looking at coinmarketcap data, with that huge circulating supply it means the project got abandoned and the value is heavily down, just ignore and find other good project

This is literally what I told the previous guy too, DON'T view a project through CMC data, it literally says nothing about the actual project. This project is so far from abandoned, for a year and a half there have been constant development updates with the latest 2 weeks ago being a MAINNET RELEASE. CMC isn't tracking the coin, can you not see the literal flat line in the chart? It's just listed there, but there is no actual data tracking being done.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 12:23:27 PM
I don't know much about signature chain project, in fact I'm just hearing the name for the first time, to say the truth 3k daily volume is extremely low, this means there is not enough demand for the token, I hope you follow the rules of crypto investment that says 'invest only what you can afford to lose'? Do make sure that the team are very active and open to the public too, goodluck

Definitely, it's extremely small, the team is very open to the public, constant development updates for the last year and a half. The project is struggling with adoption.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 12:16:35 PM
Just stay away because that s a crap coin
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/signature-chain/markets/

This coin exist since 2018 and there was no even a single good result from the development progress. If you are looking for an opinion regarding it and that's a shitty project but if you are one of the advertisers from the signature chain i guess you will never hear that.

Literally 2 weeks ago mainnet release and you say there's no development progress. Development progress is what this project is amazing in, the roadmap has always been followed 1:1 with amazing progress, please like I said, actually take a look and don't judge it simply from coinmarketcap statistics. (which btw are not up to date, use coingecko)
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 12:15:22 PM
It's a dead project already just basing on the price on CMC, and why it is no data available? I'm confused, if the project has existed since 2018 then why CMC hasn't pull any data as of 2020? Isn't it a sign that this project is already what we call a shitcoin or dead coin?

I can't even find their github repository, another good indication is to check it out and see how the devs are doing from behind. If there are no updates then that is another red flag, just saying.
Come on I asked to look into it  Grin CMC isn't tracking the data anymore because they want higher volume from the coin to continue tracking it. Coingecko has accurate data. The coin is being developed privately so no one takes the code. Please check the announcements and the dApp itself. Literally 2 weeks ago mainnet released..
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Honest opinion about this project on: April 11, 2020, 11:29:38 AM
Hello all,

During this quarantine time I've been researching more and more into crypto as I don't have much to do. However that's not what this post is about. I have this project called Signature Chain I've been heavily invested in since its launch in September 2018. It's what you could say my "hidden gem" for next bull run. My high risk high reward investment.
I was hoping I could get an outsiders perspective of this project. Keep in mind this project is miniscule, 100k mcap, 3k daily volume.
The project is about certifying the authenticity of digital data in an ease of use way, cost effective and almost instant.

One thing I'd recommend is going into their discord to the announcements channel https://discord.gg/Jq3AwT, or going over to their bitcointalk announcement page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026949.0. This way it'd be easier to see all recent achievements.

Here are some articles to the project:
Mainnet release article from 2 weeks agohttps://medium.com/@signaturechain/signature-chain-full-mainnet-release-d783fcff0d71
Even on the wavesplatform site itself https://wavesplatform.com/use-case/5e4d3b4b3985110010515c86
marketing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgR58B8i9-Q

Before more people say it: CMC is not tracking data because of lack of volume, Coingecko is accurate data.

Give it a look and please share your honest opinion.

Thanks
20  Other / Serious discussion / Re: (New?) way of scaling decentralized payments on: March 07, 2020, 10:39:05 PM
You may be interested in reading about a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG):
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Source and further reading.

But that's not Bitcoin.


This is such a smart thing so many people don't know about. Melted my heart when I read about it. Thanks for sharing


First off, I want to say it's not like I'm some Satoshi Nakamoto, this is just a shower thought..

So we all know Bitcoin transactions became very inefficient throughout time, it wasn't always as slow and expensive since it has now become. What I was thinking about, what if instead of 1 single Bitcoin blockchain, there were 10 different chains, each with 2.1M bitcoin, people can choose in which chain they want to have their coins ofcourse, but these would be the 10 Bitcoin chains. This way transactions are not all stressed under one chain and speeds and transactions fees should go back to early bitcoin days. It's almost like with internet connections, people can choose routing channels, which ones are the fastest at the moment.

Same for miners too, they can choose the concurrent most profitable chain of the 10, or whatever number is the most scalable chains.

 I could totally be wrong ofcourse, let me know what you guys think.

Sounds interesting. Maybe if we had some sort of "routers" between those blockchains?  Roll Eyes
So maybe a coin could travel over other blockchains but faster.

I believe this is actually an implementable solution which is truly visionary. Those "blockchains" are not blockchains but rather "routes"
which would make this idea closer to reality.
The direction is correct, now we need the engineers

Exactly. It'd have to be engineered in an ease of use way though, like the best suitable blockchain for a certain transaction being automatically selected, your balance over the 10 blockchains being combined and shown in the front end wallet etc. It's a shame I myself have no computer engineering experience like this however. I truly believe it could turn into an exceptional project.
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