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on: January 25, 2017, 05:04:38 AM
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"Dash will participate in the conference jointly with Coinfirm to present a combined offer for the gaming and gambling sector." Are you removing mixing from 12.1 too? Pretty much no point in mixing coins if Coinfirm is logging every transaction as mixed or unmixed. Once merchants/exchanges only accept the unmixed transactions, whoops just killed mixing. From what I understand, mixed transactions will be evaluated on a case by case risk assessment bases. That was the whole point of the partnership, so having mixed transactions would not be an acceptance problem. With all the new laws being pushed Dash may end up being the only anon coin accepted in regards to mainstream adoption. This is a good thing. Good luck finding another anon coin that won't run afoul of the law. What is your solution? Ok, but only since you asked. - Shadowcash has a two tiered network. One set of addresses is completely transparent. The other set is mixed. You can transfer between the two layers and keep the first set looking like unmixed transactions. - Maidsafe will do instant and anonymous without history that can be tracked. - Zcoin has indicated they may change to do mixing 100% of the time and still have a transparent blockchain. A much better solution to fungibility. This still might get the flag - but at least all Zcoins would be worth the same. - Zcash will have thunder - Like lightning. - Lightning will enable mixing and instant transactions. Looks like Litecoin may even be first with Bitcoin after. The mixing happens off blockchain so it shouldn't be detected by Coinfirm. |
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on: January 25, 2017, 04:30:22 AM
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Your mistake was assuming you were participating in a normal FOSS project, when in reality the Dash community is more like a OneCoin or Scientology multi-level-marketing scam complete with insular, cultish us-vs-them attitudes. Why didn't you listen to what vertoe said when she quit the project? The lack of accountability and (meaningful) communication is 100% entailed by the top-down Duffield-centric hierarchy vertoe described in her magnum opus. i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.
the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.
i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.
if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?
good luck
That was almost two years ago, yet here you are acting all shocked and butthurt about the exact same "Decentralization Theater" issues that vertoe laid out and have been sitting around for all to read. You had plenty of warning about Dash's Scientology-esque attack-the-attacker responses to criticism, so stop whining and accept you got brainwashed by a cult (albeit aided by your own greed). TheDashGuy also told you in no uncertain terms.
What the hell is wrong with this picture? i thought we were a decentralized project?
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/
Starting to look like an old fashion centralized company around here. I guess theres only 3 peoples opinions who matter.
I don't exactly support Taos proposal as is but do you see me over here hounding him about spamming or anything just because I wish he would focus on something else? Or treating him like an annoying child like you guys always do?
No.
So get off your high horses. just because you bought so many nodes early on Daniel doesn't give you any sort of ownership over this goddamn project.
It's either decentralized or it isn't. Stop mincing words and meanings. Stick to your shit and stop going back and forth. You guys are really starting to worry me with this whole attitude honestly. Sort of wish I would have done more research about the team before committing so much of my time to this shit.
Grow the hell up and learn some people skills, you guys are really starting to show your true colors it seems. Dictating the way things are going to go and literally making people look bad who disagree with you and or starting some shit about people being trolls.
Not really sure why I'm here honestly, I believed in a decentralized economy that would be more fair to the average Joe, thats obviously not Dash. You guys just wanna stack more MN's while thier cheap, then control the voting all the way through! Smart move!
Such bullshit. Go ahead keep wasting the budget on getting richer and when the whole goddamn project collapses we'll know who to blame. At least you are starting to wake up and realize Evan's cult considers him above reproach no matter what he does (rebrand to Dash, abandoning DarkCoin's massive name recognition and reputation for some generic soap BS) or does not do (no 2mb blocks despite overwhelming votes for that feature), and you are never going to get that Golden Donkey. Isn't it about time you started crying fraud, now that you are starting to see the fraud? Or will you persist in maintaining the delusion that a cult's leader is somehow accountable to and obligated to communicate with his bagholding, Kool-Aid drinking followers? I think I found just one thing incorrect in your post. Vertoe is a guy. Well, I can answer this. "What if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?" Vcash crashed and burned pretty hard when the developer blew up and left. And Evan didn't go to the BTC Miami event....queue the Xfiles music. |
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on: January 25, 2017, 04:05:06 AM
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Wow! This is really going for the jugular. "Dash will participate in the conference jointly with Coinfirm to present a combined offer for the gaming and gambling sector." Are you removing mixing from 12.1 too? Pretty much no point in mixing coins if Coinfirm is logging every transaction as mixed or unmixed. Once merchants/exchanges only accept the unmixed transactions, whoops just killed mixing. So much for fungibility. I guess you could pay lawyers to sue merchants/exchanges for not accepting mixed transactions or to defend any money laundering bills that come up. Maybe start an anti-fungibility fighter budget proposal too. |
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on: November 10, 2016, 07:09:18 AM
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ja they are CCC now coinchatclub
What happened to the "dashpay" Slack? It is still there and working fine but it is "work" dedicated slack. Yeah, Dashpay didn't WORK for me either. Anyway, if the space is needed I could understand giving me the kick...again. LOL. The CoinChat.Club is a Thuster free multicoin slack. Need I say more about the reason for the change. :-) Watch one of Amanda's videos if you don't get the reference. We will try to keep it positive, but yet still have some critical thinking. |
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on: November 03, 2016, 08:42:56 PM
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There has been some talk about using other coin mixing technologies like Shadowcash. I found a coin that is innovative and goes back to the basics. It could even be better than Zcoin or Zcash. This coin is based on the never before tried Bobchain. Check it out and see if we can adopt the technology for Dash. http://intheoreum.org/#welcomeI'm very impressed by it and i think we should embrace it immediately !! I mean just look at what the press has to say about Bob and his Bobchain.... I do think Bob deserves a break from his chains once awhile though, maybe once every leapyear ? The only thing that I think needs to be added is a rigorous check every hour to make sure Bob isn't using the eraser on the #2 pencil. That is about all that needs to change though. Glad you guys enjoyed the laugh. |
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on: October 22, 2016, 01:30:03 AM
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But starting with the most complicated project with a limited user base doesn't make sense. How does Odoo have a "limited user base" ? It has a massive userbase as far as I can see. It also represents a one stop shop solution for small retailers wanting to accept crypto and for whom BTC is a problem (due to dodgy 1-conf). I am thinking to start with something that acts like a credit card reader that is used at almost any smaller store. Smaller stores just enter the amount and it isn't even tied to their inventory system. They just put a copy of the credit card receipt in the till and settle payments at night. The merchant will also want Dash converted fiat, that needs to be addressed before any of these solutions can be presented. I doubt larger stores will take the risk of adding a plugin without any previous usage cases. I think this proposal is skipping some much needed steps. |
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on: October 21, 2016, 11:12:03 PM
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I'm going to lobby for this proposal once again, because I really think merchant integration should be a priority, and this one project, Odoo (a full ERP merchant/manufacturing/any type of business solution that millions use all over the world) is a no-brainer. Please vote yes on this project. Yes it is expensive, but it is very involved to fully integrate Dash as a payment option along side fiat and credit cards. But the result will be seamless. Seamless accounting, inventory assessment, etc... https://www.dashcentral.org/p/OdooDASHCryptoModuleI agree that the intigration to odoo would be something nice. But i can't support that proposal, from a software developer perspective that proposal does not sound that much as a no brainer ! If someone is charging about 70 $ an hour i will not accept something as: "It will generate the QR using the libraries of JS it will show the price on the same screen from the order.This transaction will need to become instantsend for each functionality be efficient on the retail store. 30 hours" * using a jsLib to show a QR code = 1 hour max * showing something on the order screen = 2 hours max (after that work is already almost accounted for with the pre tasks - 5 hours for countdown shown on screen and so on ..) * This transaction will need to become instantsend for each functionality be efficient on the retail store. = hey lets use the word instantsend to justify some working hours ! (That instantsend work has been already made with dashsoda machine, no need to reinvent the wheel here) so again 27 hours for this? no way, and it is not even describing anything its just using some key words as instantsend .... And so on ... In other words its an absolute no go to charge 70 $ an hour and then describe one point of the tasks with 30 hours as implement some jsLib to get a qr code, get it on the page, and yeah also use instasend for the transaction to make it useful. -> you will describe that last part, that instantsend part, whats to do there, why 30 hours, you won't talk about using a jsLib for an QR code, what should take someone 10 min max... I also question that this proposal was not thought out well. Check out the comments on Dashcentral where they first said the blockchain and node traffic would be on the machine, but later changed to have it on a separate server after I indicated how much bandwidth and CPU it would use. I am A OK with making changes, but this proposal looks like it was a blink guess. The initial proposal didn't have InstantSend and I discussed in detail what InstantSend was and how and why it should be added. Clearly, anyone attempting to make a proposal to use Dash technology should actually do some effort to understand it first. The right way to do this, is to make a similar setup. Maybe not on an Odoo. Then show us that and how you will convert it to Odoo or finish it. Or maybe look at the the Blockpay Odoo Dash code and add InstantSend. Maybe then you will see that you are almost done in only 5 hrs and not ask for a 6 month proposal. Solar, I respect you, but WTF? How in the world do you get 5 hours for a full Odoo implementation of Dash? I mean, even I know that's completely extreme from seeing the little I do of what my sister goes through to implement simple project changes at her work. And you're talking to non-english speakers. Do we only want to work with Americans and Europeans? Or do we want to spread our team to the rest of the world? Do you know how much an Odoo implementation costs? I'm not a programmer, it's true, but I honestly think that if they get Dash natively integrated, and especially accepted into OCA repository where Dash can be managed like any other currency, their quote is cheap! This is what you will get: https://www.odoo.com/documentation/user/9.0/accounting/others/multicurrencies/how_it_works.htmlFor me, it is important that we get these merchant solutions out there asap because Dash Evolution is really Consumer friendly, and focuses on consumers, which is great, fantastic. When Dash Evolution comes out, anyone that buys and sells things like on Craigslist, ebay, etsy will have a new tool, if someone creates a site to trade on. However, there will be no grocery store, no gas station, no mini mart, nobody else that can/will dive in to accepting Dash at that point. If we wait for Evolution, we will then have to wait for ways to get merchants to use Dash, via projects like this. That will slow down adoption once again. We need to be ready in all corners that we can find, that will work, and when Evolution comes out, and Merchants hear about it, those that already use Odoo, and look and see, oh, there is a Dash plugin, I can just implement it. And they'll be able to add it via a plugin system not unlike Wordpress. THIS is what it's all about. And we have a team willing to put it together. And you think the price is too high? Not saying 5 hrs is what it takes, but I believe Bitcoin has already been done, so not really a stretch to take advantage of time savings with changing to Dash. In reality blockpay already takes Dash and other coins with their Odoo integration and would have the advantage(of course not in all areas yet, and not with instantsend). https://blockpay.ch/ Might just make more sense to work with them to add InstantSend. They even have a mobile app. The entire model is backwards though. You need to build in costs for service, sales, and equipment. Even if you had the fanciest machine paid for fully upfront, it still needs funding to pay sales, fix things, and answer questions. I am all for merchant adoption. But starting with the most complicated project with a limited user base doesn't make sense. Build something simple that everyone can use with a sustainable model and then Odoo or other merchant systems can adopt that. |
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on: October 21, 2016, 06:48:21 PM
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I'm going to lobby for this proposal once again, because I really think merchant integration should be a priority, and this one project, Odoo (a full ERP merchant/manufacturing/any type of business solution that millions use all over the world) is a no-brainer. Please vote yes on this project. Yes it is expensive, but it is very involved to fully integrate Dash as a payment option along side fiat and credit cards. But the result will be seamless. Seamless accounting, inventory assessment, etc... https://www.dashcentral.org/p/OdooDASHCryptoModuleI agree that the intigration to odoo would be something nice. But i can't support that proposal, from a software developer perspective that proposal does not sound that much as a no brainer ! If someone is charging about 70 $ an hour i will not accept something as: "It will generate the QR using the libraries of JS it will show the price on the same screen from the order.This transaction will need to become instantsend for each functionality be efficient on the retail store. 30 hours" * using a jsLib to show a QR code = 1 hour max * showing something on the order screen = 2 hours max (after that work is already almost accounted for with the pre tasks - 5 hours for countdown shown on screen and so on ..) * This transaction will need to become instantsend for each functionality be efficient on the retail store. = hey lets use the word instantsend to justify some working hours ! (That instantsend work has been already made with dashsoda machine, no need to reinvent the wheel here) so again 27 hours for this? no way, and it is not even describing anything its just using some key words as instantsend .... And so on ... In other words its an absolute no go to charge 70 $ an hour and then describe one point of the tasks with 30 hours as implement some jsLib to get a qr code, get it on the page, and yeah also use instasend for the transaction to make it useful. -> you will describe that last part, that instantsend part, whats to do there, why 30 hours, you won't talk about using a jsLib for an QR code, what should take someone 10 min max... I also question that this proposal was not thought out well. Check out the comments on Dashcentral where they first said the blockchain and node traffic would be on the machine, but later changed to have it on a separate server after I indicated how much bandwidth and CPU it would use. I am A OK with making changes, but this proposal looks like it was a blink guess. The initial proposal didn't have InstantSend and I discussed in detail what InstantSend was and how and why it should be added. Clearly, anyone attempting to make a proposal to use Dash technology should actually do some effort to understand it first. The right way to do this, is to make a similar setup. Maybe not on an Odoo. Then show us that and how you will convert it to Odoo or finish it. Or maybe look at the the Blockpay Odoo Dash code and add InstantSend. Maybe then you will see that you are almost done in only 5 hrs and not ask for a 6 month proposal. |
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on: September 14, 2016, 07:49:51 PM
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Only 4 days left to submit designs for the bumper sticker contest. Hop on DashChat and post your idea in the #contests channel. You can signup for dashchat at Dashchat.co. Bumper Sticker ContestWe are holding a bumper sticker contest for the best 3" x 10" bumper sicker design. When complete we plan to make a run of 100-1000 bumper stickers to sell and giveaway at shows. We would like to include the Dash Logo and Dash Slogan on the bumper sticker. The idea is to have something interesting and funny intended for the general population to bring attention to Dash. So use common words(not blockchain, crypto). If you can incorporate InstantSend, even better. Winner gets: 5 DashContest Ends: Sept 18thThe winning slogan is: DashChat, The Dash DiscussionHere is a sampling of 5 designs submitted.      |
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on: September 01, 2016, 08:38:23 PM
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Suggestion to reduce PrivateSend and InstantSend fees
The good news is the price has doubled in the last 2 months. That has also pushed up our fees and now would be a good time to address it.
Right now a PrivateSend could cost $1.30 (0.1 Dash)depending on how it rounds up. The lowest denomination is 0.1, which all PrivateSend transactions need to be rounded up to for a transaction. Adding the .01 denomination lowers this to a reasonable 13 cents.
The current cost of an InstantSend transaction is 13 cents (.01 Dash). The Canada DashNDrink machine is weeks away from going into service. This is a high fee for a low cost item like a soda. Changing the fee to be 0.001 will make those fees a more reasonable 1.3 cents.
Can these fee changes be added in 12.1? Or even a release before with the mixing changes?
Speaking of proposals....This isn't a budget proposal but it is indeed a proposal. Please provide some input so we can get this moving. We may also want to change the cost to mix coins from 0.01 to 0.001. Appreciate your input. FYI, I have already talked with Evan and he requested a post here to review. |
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Suggestion to reduce PrivateSend and InstantSend fees
The good news is the price has doubled in the last 2 months. That has also pushed up our fees and now would be a good time to address it.
Right now a PrivateSend could cost $1.30 (0.1 Dash)depending on how it rounds up. The lowest denomination is 0.1, which all PrivateSend transactions need to be rounded up to for a transaction. Adding the .01 denomination lowers this to a reasonable 13 cents.
The current cost of an InstantSend transaction is 13 cents (.01 Dash). The Canada DashNDrink machine is weeks away from going into service. This is a high fee for a low cost item like a soda. Changing the fee to be 0.001 will make those fees a more reasonable 1.3 cents.
Can these fee changes be added in 12.1? Or even a release before with the mixing changes?
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on: August 25, 2016, 05:17:28 AM
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Only 3 weeks from the start of the budget and we have grown over 100 members and really made some progress. Vote yes again and we will continue to make things happen. Dashcentral: https://www.dashcentral.org/p/slack-tipbot-com-engSlack Project Update - Month One:https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/slack-tipbot-and-community-engagement.9966/#post-102397Tipbot@dashbot is getting a quiz feature added. Testing is in progress. 25 Dash were sent to @naruby for his work on the dashbot. Community Engagement15 Dash were sent to 10 mods for the work they do here. Creating conversation, tipping new people, welcoming new members, public promotions of Dash and this place, helping new users with questions and answers, providing resources for veterans and new users, among many other things. The moderators were given the choice to do whatever they want with the 15 Dash. @TroyDASH (gave 15 away) @alexander @splawik21 @buster (gave 15 away) @Solarminer @InTheWoods @dash_advocate (gave 10 away) @Dashmasternode (gave 10 away) @elishagh1 @Macrochip (gave 7.5 away) Out of the 150 Dash given to moderators here, 57.5 were given away to fund the Redo of Dash Video Series by @amanda_b_johnson. You can read about it here, http://www.dashnation.com/initiatives/dash-video-series-community-bounty-funded-2-hours/Bounty for App Store WalletWe had donations pledged from several users to encourage getting an iphone wallet on the App Store. Jaxx was the first one to meet the requirements and received 200 Dash compliments of @Dashmasternode, there are still bounties for 50 Dash (@pi) to get an App on the China App Store and another 50 Dash (@solarminer,@troydash,@dashadvocate) to add InstantSend. There are now 3 different developers attempting to get a wallet in app store with InstantSend. We believe this was fantastic success. Dash Details15 Dash are held by @Solarminer to send funds at various times over the month to @dashsun 5 Dash were refunded to @Solarminer from month one for the 5 dash proposal fee. 17 Dash are allocated for three contests currently running, an Image contest, a Slogan contest, and Bumper Sticker Contest to further promote this slack, and in turn Dash. To learn more the contests go to http://dashchat.co/contests.html5 Dash are going to create a new reddit intro post which @Poltergeist has kindly taken upon himself to complete. He has already provided a rough draft and we plan on having something done by early or mid September. 8 Dash are tentatively planned to order 1000 Bumper stickers with the design from contests above that can be handed out at shows or sold for Dash. Buster created a website for the slack to make it easier for new users to find the slack. You can use this link to join or learn more, http://dashchat.co |
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on: August 22, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
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hey quick question, my SSD drive is full where my DASH wallet is and cant remember how I can move the data folder to a new volume...
can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Move your dash folder to another drive, and start Dash again by specifying a new -datadir from the shortcut. Here's an old post from Reddit, but you'll see what to do: F:\darkcoin>.\darkcoin-0.11.1.25-win\32\darkcoin-qt.exe -datadir=F:\darkcoin-datadir Note, this was for Darkcoin so you just provide your new datadir and Dash will read the files from the path you provide. First open your wallet and backup to an external drive to be safe. If you want to move the data folder, it is in C:/Users/User/AppData/Roaming/Dash. User is your username. I made a bat program that will create bat file so you don't need to not fiddle with unhiding extensions or finding files in hidden directories. Download and run and it will ask for the locations. It saves a .bat file under the wallet name. You can then double click the .bat file to load your wallet. You can also create multiple wallets that use the same data directory. www.dashndrink.com/dashbatcreator.batYeah, also don't trust programs from unfamiliar sources. Here is the code to verify for yourself. @echo off set /p appdir= Where is your dash-qt.exe installed? (Default is C:/Program Files/Dash) set /p datadir= Where is the data directory? (Default is C:/Users/User/AppData/Roaming/Dash) set /p wallet= What is the wallet name? (Default is wallet.dat) echo "%appdir%\dash-qt.exe" -datadir="%datadir%" -wallet=%wallet% -windowtitle=%wallet% > %wallet%.bat |
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on: August 18, 2016, 05:06:29 PM
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thanks for all the responses. i don't have that many dash but my returns from gambling site have been way higher than the 10%.
You can risk it all and loan Dash on Poloniex. Loans rates can be 1%/day. But that risk is high....possibly losing all of your dash. Otherwise masternode.me like Moo said can host a node or even a share as small as 25 Dash. Even better, if you have a skill or idea that can benefit Dash, submit a budget proposal with the 5 Dash fee and earn some Dash. We also have a few contests in DashChat for a logo and slogan. Free to submit - and we are giving away 15 Dash to the highest rated designs. Our chat is over 600 members now, and we usually have people to answer questions right away. Signup for the chat and more contest info is at Dashchat.co. |
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Hello again I am sorry, but I don't get the wallet thing. With Jaxx, for example (i've seen the interview) I could i change Dash into € and then move them to my account without passing through a "normal" exchange? Or, even if I leave them in the wallet (way too many) how do I spend them? Pardon me, I am so noob  Cheers Jaxx,Coinomi, and Exodus just allow transfers between different crytos(not fiat) plus offer safer storage of your funds. You will still need a fiat converter to get from bitcoin to fiat. Circle, Coinbase, Gemini can convert BTC to fiat in the US. Others have mentioned alternatives for you for Euros. You can also use a gift card service like gyft.com and transfer BTC to gift cards that you can spend. |
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