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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the Corona Virus A Bioweapon? on: Today at 02:35:19 PM
I can remember when it was called a cold.  If it was intended as a bio-weapon, it's a total failure - absolutely useless as one.  Given its ability to paralyze the entire population of China, the Chinese government is a much more effective bio-weapon than the so-called Covid-19.


Of the first 99 confirmed cases of this at the epicenter Wuhan General Hospital overall mortality rate was 11%. This was with extraordinary interventions including ventilation and ECMO

https://marlin-prod.literatumonline.com/pb-assets/Lancet/pdfs/S0140673620302117.pdf

The disease is also extremely contagious. We donít know for sure how long this can survive on surfaces but members of the Coronavirus family have been shown to survive anywhere from a week in the case of SARS to a month in the case of some known animal Coronaviruses.

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-shows-just-how-long-coronaviruses-can-stick-around-on-a-surface/amp

High infectivity asymptotic spread and survival from days to weeks on surfaces likely mean this disease is utterly uncontainable and will become established in the human population like the influenza virus.

Hopefully one of the following is true.

A) The disease is not as severe globally as initial reports out of China indicate. This might be possible if that small study on ACE2 receptors is accurate or if there are massive numbers of asymptotic infections where people donít get sick.

Or

B) The initial quarantine measures slow this down enough to develop some effective treatments for it before it gets everywhere.



  Most people with cold or flu-like sypmtoms don't even go to the hospital let alone get admitted to a hospital specializing in infectious disease at the onset of their illness.  The first people to be involved in the study were already very ill - in fact, the first fatality in this study had already had fever and dyspnoea for 7 days prior to going to the hospital.  While the study is useful, we can't draw conclusions about the mortality rate of this disease based on this study alone.

 The reason I replied to this thread was to answer the question  "Is the Corona Virus A Bioweapon?" and I still maintain that it is utterly useless as a bio-weapon.

 It's just a cold.


Often they use vitamin B12 to treat dyspnea - altitude sickness. For some people methyl B12 is way better than simple vitamin B12. Maybe the cure is methyl B12 plus lots of vitamin C, and added iron.

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2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 200,000 people apply to be first to live on Mars on: Today at 01:31:57 PM
Mars like i heard is also suitable for humans and other living organism too but the big question remains that are we really ready for that yet? How do people cope without gravitational force? Without going too deep, i think its imppossible for humans to do without gravity.

Mars has about a third of the gravity that Earth has. If you weigh 198 pounds on Earth, you would weigh about 66 pounds on Mars.

Because the Mars atmosphere is so small and thin, there is little protection from cosmic rays. This means that any microbes in the soil of Mars would be killed off by radiation. Why is this important? Metallic minerals are poison to plants that try to grow in them. Plants need microbes to turn the soil into ionic minerals of the kind that they can absorb to live. Plants won't grow on Mars. If they DO grow on Mars, it will be because the microbes are brought in, and are protected from the radiation somehow.

Mars is a hostile environment to people. It will take many years to make Mars habitable for people so that they can live out in the open. With the technology that we have, it might be impossible. People would have to live in biospheres to start. Here on Earth, we haven't had much long-term success with biospheres, so how could we ever live with them on Mars?

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3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is in mind of those, who against vaccination? on: Today at 01:19:30 PM
^^^ They can fool all of the people some of the time,
and they can fool some of the people all of the time,
but they can't fool all of the people all of the time.

People are waking up to their lies and deceptions.

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4  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: Today at 01:16:20 PM
So you really think that there has to be peer-reviewed stuff for there to be scientific proof, right. Do you believe that you exist and are alive? (Of course, maybe you aren't and don't.)

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Well if it's such a marvellous proof on the existence of god, I'm sure the author would be delighted to get it peer-reviewed. Otherwise, it shows the lack of confidence on the merits of his arguments, or shall I say blabber.

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How can you be sure of what the authors of any proof would do? You can't even seem to think through the fact that you know that you aren't an atheist. If you were a bit smarter, you might realize that authors of proofs are simply observers of proof, who are writing down what they observed. If you understood this, you might be smart enough to think through the observations, yourself, to see that God is real.

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5  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Drops Requirement for Employers to Validate Citizenship of Employees on: Today at 01:07:24 PM

he builds a wall but makes american enterpreneurship full of holes like a swiss cheese.
Actually, it's regulation of small people that destroys entrepreneurship. If anybody wants the country to grow, he needs to go hands-off regarding anything Mom and Pop want to do... especially taxation. This is what Trump is aiming for.



immigration and urbanisation is for most white americans not the problem,
the problem, is the economy, the terrorism, extremism, intollerance and racism of the immigrants.

The basic American problem is the same as the basic world problem. What is it? Rejection of God and His Word, the Bible.

The basic problem that this God-rejection produces? Wicked people getting into government in the form of a Deep State, and attempting to steal freedom from the people.

Here is the largest difficulty that Trump has (outside of his own little ignorances). The ignorance of the American people. Rather than being smart, the American people place presidential elections as the important thing in life. They want a King other than God, just the way ancient Israel wanted a king at the time of Samuel the prophet. Trump has the problems of working to keep the people free, not becoming part of the Deep State, and yet giving the people all the things they want him to give them.

People don't realize that if they accepted God above everything, that they all could be kings, and that the formal government would be nothing when compared with what they could all do as formal kings... kings who were obeying God and His logical Law.

This is shown in the fact of the existence of jury nullification, and that people barely use it. If people woke up, they could use jury nullification in their locality to nullify every law they didn't like, and produce any law that they wanted. Federal and State governments would be little or nothing. It's all there. It's written right into the laws that people can do this. But the people are too ignorant to use it.

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6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Islam is a shitcoin forked from Christianity shitcoin that was forked from Jews? on: Today at 01:56:48 AM
So I live on a beach in Denpasar and have a lot of time to think about stuff.
Last nite I was sucking down some arak bali and realized that all religions are essentially shitcoins forked from some old original source.
Total WHOA moment right there amirite fam?


Reminded me of this!
Read this thread for some giggles (if you aren't a snowflake)

First there were Jews (Bitcoin).  Then, Jesus came along and said: 'here is some new bullshit'.  People who believed the new bullshit, we're previously Jews but then became Christians by following the new bullshit (Bitcoin Cash - brought to you by Bitcoin Jesus no less).  After about 630 years, along came Muhammed (CSW).  Muhammed said: 'here is even more bullshit to go on top of the other bullshit'.  Christian followers of the even more bullshit, became Muslims (Bitcoin SV). 

It is just a fork of a fork folks.  We've seen it all before.  History repeats itself again.


More entertaining reading from this author...
This asshole published my private key!


Those are interesting religions you have there.     Cool
7  Other / Politics & Society / Trump Drops Requirement for Employers to Validate Citizenship of Employees on: Today at 01:52:14 AM
Trump must have figured that he was forced or tricked into building the wall. Now he's getting back at those who tricked him.


Trump Drops Requirement for Employers to Validate Citizenship of Employees



In the budget, released Monday, Mr. Trump says he backs the current mostly voluntary version of E-Verify.

E-Verify, run by Homeland Security, is an electronic system available to employers to run their new hires' information. They are told, usually instantaneously, whether the person is work-authorized.

Currently it's voluntary for most companies, though federal contractors are supposed to use it, and some states have passed laws mandating use as well.

Though not infallible, the system is considered the best way to prevent illegal immigrants from taking jobs, and has long been the Holy Grail for security advocates and those pushing for stricter immigration limits.

The Trump budget retreat was dismaying to them.


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8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is in mind of those, who against vaccination? on: Today at 01:41:40 AM
It's only a bill so far, but it's about time somebody did this in a big way.


South Dakota Introduces Legislation Against Mandatory Vaccination Requirements...



A bill that would put an end to vaccination requirements for students has been introduced in the South Dakota House of Representatives.

House Bill 1235 would stop schools and colleges from requiring vaccinations for students to enter school.

Mitchell School Superintendent Joe Graves disagrees with the bill. He says "The current immunization system makes complete sense to me, and I really can't imagine why we would go away from that."

One of the bill's 12 co-sponsors, House Majority Leader Lee Qualm of Platte, says "Nobody should be able to forcibly put something in someone's body that they do not approve of." He says it should be up to each set of parents to decide what is right for their children with regard to vaccinations.


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9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seasteading on: Today at 01:19:43 AM
Thanks franky1. I really never knew the details about Elwar. But you had mentioned it before.

You should really look at what they are doing, now. They are setting up a new business to start seasteading. I think their prices are too high, but you have to start somewhere.

Obviously, people have been living on boats for ages. Personally I might like the boat idea better. But if they can make it work, then others can. This is what the world needs... more entrepreneurs.

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10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 17, 2020, 11:30:45 PM
LOL! If you are really stuck in your beliefs, I don't care. You can say that scientific proof for God doesn't exist, all day long. Certainly I don't want to force you to understand science, even if I could.

 Cheesy

You can believe you're a scientist all day long, but at the end of the day there's no peer-reviewed scientific paper anywhere, just a simple blogpost from someone's ass...

Cool

So you really think that there has to be peer-reviewed stuff for there to be scientific proof, right. Do you believe that you exist and are alive? (Of course, maybe you aren't and don't.)

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11  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Overpopulation of a developing country is one of its major problem on: February 17, 2020, 11:15:21 PM
If any country thinks that they are over-populated, why don't they do a nationally owned seastead, and send their excess population there? See the links in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1814814.msg53860399#msg53860399.

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12  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 17, 2020, 11:11:29 PM
There is a difference between knowing that God exists, and believing in Him. You absolutely know your banker exists. But you only believe that he will take good care of your money in your savings account.

Your arguments are bullshit and not scientific, thus yours is a simple belief.

Since you have constantly been saying that there is no God, where am I accusing you of atheism?

In fact I say that to piss you off.

You simply haven't checked into the logic of your own atheism religion to see that it is a religion, because you absolutely know that you don't know that God doesn't exist. You just blab that He doesn't exist.

You absolutely don't know whether God exists or not, just like superman, unicorns or anything else. You just blab that they exist.

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LOL! If you are really stuck in your beliefs, I don't care. You can say that scientific proof for God doesn't exist, all day long. Certainly I don't want to force you to understand science, even if I could.

 Cheesy
13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seasteading on: February 17, 2020, 11:04:27 PM
Elwar said in the video I linked above - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FzJtZB538E - something to the effect of how he is going to show Thailand what they missed out on... a business that could have made them money. But, the UN is talking about getting into seasteading, and Thailand can easily copy anything that Elwar does. And this brings us to a point.

We are staring at a race. The race is, free seasteading vs. formal seasteading by nations. People who are talking seasteading are giving ideas to nations. What if Bangladesh started making a formal Bangladesh-seastead, part of their nation, that could float anywhere, at the same time reducing their mainland population. What will happen when all the nations of the world do this formally?

Note that in the https://ocean.builders/ocean-builders-manufacturing-facility-gets-the-first-pour/ website, they are also talking about building a landstead. What does this all mean for the future?

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14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 17, 2020, 10:49:53 PM
"You say yes, I say no..."  Cheesy

All you are proving by your talk is that your atheism is a religion for you.

Cool

You're accusing me of atheism, but you believe that your belief in god is science. That's hypocrisy, isn't it?

Cool

There is a difference between knowing that God exists, and believing in Him. You absolutely know your banker exists. But you only believe that he will take good care of your money in your savings account.

Since you have constantly been saying that there is no God, where am I accusing you of atheism? You simply haven't checked into the logic of your own atheism religion to see that it is a religion, because you absolutely know that you don't know that God doesn't exist. You just blab that He doesn't exist.

Of course, you could simply be lying about it all, just for the reaction.

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15  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Glycyrrhizin, the cure for Coronavirus. on: February 17, 2020, 10:44:53 PM
Since there's a fat discussion regarding homeopathy around here, can someone explain me what are the basis for that sort of stuff? It is essentially placebo,  does it use some "natural alternatives to medicine" (i.e. herbal plants with scientifically proven efficiency), is it more like the esoteric bullshit I saw on TV once of an ex-homeopathy vendor trying to infuse her olive plantations with positive energy by burying some random crap, or neither?

When Monsanto first made and tested Roundup, they tested only tiny amounts on plants they were trying to kill off. The plants grew better than ever until Monsanto increased the amounts they used.

What works for some might not work for others.

There is placebo effect in everything. Placebo works negatively as well as positively. Tell a person he has cancer or CV, and he just might get it because he believes you.

Cool

Sure, but there's a complete difference between placebo as a collateral effect and placebo as the main healing factor of a medicine.

Right. All medicines are essentially poisons in small enough amounts (usually) to not kill. All they do is elicit an immune system action of the kind that overcomes the problem.

Sometimes placebo action is enough to elicit such an immune system action. But, we simply don't have any way of measuring whether or not medicine is causing a placebo effect via the subconscios or not... placebo effect that does the majority of the healing. If it is really placebo effect in all of it, medicine might be the least of the healing methods around. What we would need is something that causes faith in people.

Remember, multitudes of people die in hospitals, and many under other medical care. It might be placebo effect loss of faith in the doctor, or it might be placebo effect faith in the negative statements of the doctor.

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16  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 17, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
Blabber.

Okay. Anybody can continue to just blabber.

"Hello, Goodbye"

You say yes, I say no
You say stop and I say go go go, oh no
You say goodbye and I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello

I say high, you say low
You say why and I say I don't know, oh no
You say goodbye and I say hello
(Hello goodbye hello goodbye) Hello hello
(Hello goodbye) I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
(Hello goodbye hello goodbye) Hello hello
(Hello goodbye) I don't know why you say goodbye
(Hello goodbye) I say hello/goodbye

Why why why why why why do you say goodbye goodbye, oh no?

You say goodbye and I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello

You say yes (I say yes) I say no (But I may mean no)
You say stop (I can stay) and I say go go go (Till it's time to go), oh
Oh no
You say goodbye and I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello hello

Hela heba helloa
Hela heba helloa, cha cha cha
Hela heba helloa, wooo
Hela heba helloa, hela
Hela heba helloa, cha cha cha
Hela heba helloa, wooo
Hela heba helloa, cha cah cah [fade out]


There you go, calling yourself God again, by suggesting you know for a fact that God doesn't exist, even in all those places nobody has checked for Him yet.

I am no god, as it doesn't exist and I do exist.
There you go, claiming you are God by having the godly ability to know and claim that there isn't any God. And you do it right in one, short sentence. Cheesy



I went first a long time ago, and found the scientific proof that God exists - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0. I know why you won't go and look at the proof. It's because you don't want to. Be careful! Hiding reality from yourself is dangerous, especially when that reality is God.

Cool

That's just anti-scientific bs.

And god doesn't exist.

Cool

"You say yes, I say no..."  Cheesy

All you are proving by your talk is that your atheism is a religion for you.

Cool
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Glycyrrhizin, the cure for Coronavirus. on: February 17, 2020, 10:08:44 PM
Since there's a fat discussion regarding homeopathy around here, can someone explain me what are the basis for that sort of stuff? It is essentially placebo,  does it use some "natural alternatives to medicine" (i.e. herbal plants with scientifically proven efficiency), is it more like the esoteric bullshit I saw on TV once of an ex-homeopathy vendor trying to infuse her olive plantations with positive energy by burying some random crap, or neither?

When Monsanto first made and tested Roundup, they tested only tiny amounts on plants they were trying to kill off. The plants grew better than ever until Monsanto increased the amounts they used.

What works for some might not work for others.

There is placebo effect in everything. Placebo works negatively as well as positively. Tell a person he has cancer or CV, and he just might get it because he believes you.

Cool
18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is in mind of those, who against vaccination? on: February 17, 2020, 09:59:22 PM
"One way to get around [the problem] of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of pubertyÖ Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue,"

https://www.rt.com/uk/480977-downing-street-adviser-sabisky-eugenics/

Is it becoming clear enough that compulsory vaccinations are simply a pretext for transforming the world population into chattel property and promoting eugenics and genocide yet?

Yes, world wide conspiracy theory about vaccinations was just uncovered by Russia Today. Your trashy source doesn't prove anything about what you just said.

Why do you talk so silly? Few sources, even the one TECSHARE listed, ever prove anything.

Proof is found in experimentation. Also, it is considered to be found in court adjudication. Media ramblings are only hearsay, except when they show actual court records that can be found in books that record court records, or when they show the actual experimentation language used in the experimentation, with sources.

This is what Robert Kennedy, Jr. has been after all along. The law requires that vaccine companies do long-term studies to see if vaccines are dangerous. When Kennedy required through court action that those vaccine test records be provided, neither the government nor the vaccine companies provided them, though they had been required by law for the previous 30 years.

This is the proof that you can't trust the medical or the vaccine companies, or even the government. Or can you provide the tests the government couldn't and the vaccine companies wouldn't?

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19  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 17, 2020, 09:48:21 PM
"Random" simply means that we can't track the noise. Everything that we know of operates by cause and effect. There is no evidence of pure random, spontaneity. There is no pure random in the thing we call random noise.

I am very sorry to inform you we don't live in the XIX century anymore and what you're stating is not a scientific statement.
Did somebody actually force you to say that we don't live in the XIX century anymore? Or do you enjoy being sad?

All you need do is look up the word "random" in dictionaries and encyclopedias to see that what I say is accurate.




Thank you. Now you are saying that you are speculating when you say there is no God.

Now you're saying that you are speculating when you say god exists.
Actually, the scientific proof that God exists is in the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0.




You are focusing on the definition of entropy.

Of course I am, entropy is what the definition of entropy says it is.
And the definition says (sometimes between the lines) that entropy exists in everything.



But as I said, just because an area suddently has greater complexity produced by something that is less complex, the less complex was given the ability to produce something more complex than itself by something even more complex than this produced complexity.

That's what you say, but it's not a scientific argument.
It's a scientific fact. No argument necessary.




Ultimately everything exists in a state of continual entropy overall... except God, that is.

Ultimately, you don't know what the words you're using mean.
So, you have been checking up on me, eh? Grin Like you know what other people know.




God is complex way beyond our understanding of complexity.

God doesn't exist. There's no complexity on that.
There you go, calling yourself God again, by suggesting you know for a fact that God doesn't exist, even in all those places nobody has checked for Him yet.




There you go, contradicting the fact that you haven't examined every portion of the universe, micro and macro, to see if God is there. And you certainly haven't gone outside the universe to check there.

You go first and recognise that your believe in god is just that, a belief, and then I'll try to be fair to you. How can I present a fair argument to someone that states senseless things like that there's a scientific demonstration that god exists? You go first and recognise yours is a believe, then I'll stop mocking you.

Until then: god doesn't exist.

Cool

I went first a long time ago, and found the scientific proof that God exists - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0. I know why you won't go and look at the proof. It's because you don't want to. Be careful! Hiding reality from yourself is dangerous, especially when that reality is God.

Cool
20  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seasteading on: February 17, 2020, 04:19:42 PM
Meet The Seasteading Couple On The Run From Insane Thailand Trouble!


Meet The Seasteading Couple On The Run From Insane Thailand Trouble!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FzJtZB538E



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