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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: June 18, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
One of the biggest and well veiled scammer exchanges is Bibox, when peoples can't take their deposits from December 22. I find on the internet some dozen posts about it on different platforms. But Coinmarketcap and Coingecko think what this phrase: "We have received multiple reports from users being unable to withdraw funds from Bibox. Please exercise caution. "which you can see in exchange description enough for disclaimer and continue place quotes of scammers. I don't think so. They undermine confidence in the crypto industry.
However, both Coingecko and Coinmarketcap have warned their viewers that if they use bibox, they may face issues.

I didn't see something that I was warned about when coinmarketcap sent me to the bibox website based on the quotes of one of the currency pairs. Maybe I didn't see well ...
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: June 18, 2023, 10:28:50 AM
Look where hosted "bibox":

Domain Name: bibox.com
Registry Domain ID: 14271455_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
.

this scam hosted in US )))), I thought what that more relevant for Panama or Seychelles Islands but not in USA it's also possible.  

I understand that you may be angry at bibox.com but things really work in a slightly different way.
bibox.com domain is registered on the global registrant Godaddy.com based in the US. They do the domain registration, but they do not deal with the content of that domain and what is behind it. They are not responsible for determining whether something is a scam or not.
Globally, it means that a person from Indiafor example, can register a domain using the Godaddy service.

If you have irrefutable evidence against them, then it is best to contact the competent authorities to deal with it. Only they can request Godaddy to cancel or seize that domain.

btw. when we talk about hosting, bibox.com is behind Cloudflare.

Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85284
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599

I look on this raws and see that bibox hoster plased in US.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: June 18, 2023, 10:12:19 AM
As long as there will be fraudsters like bibox in the crypto industry and other giants will help them, crypto for the average person will be associated with fraud and will be used in most cases only by traders and for calculations to avoid taxes.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: May 29, 2023, 03:59:09 PM
Look where hosted "bibox":

Domain Name: bibox.com
Registry Domain ID: 14271455_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: https://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2018-10-17T01:02:48Z
Creation Date: 1999-11-30T06:11:02Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2024-11-30T06:11:02Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 2155 E Warner Rd
Registrant City: Tempe
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85284
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599

this scam hosted in US )))), I thought what that more relevant for Panama or Seychelles Islands but not in USA it's also possible.  
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: April 23, 2023, 02:18:02 PM
Think of the manpower and research needed to figure it out.
All of a sudden some exchange starts getting a lot of complaints.
Are they legitimate issues OR

1) Is it one frustrated user who is trying to organize a campaign against that exchange
2) Is it a competitor who is trying to hurt the exchange
3) Was there a lot of fraud going on at that exchange and they changed some some rules  to fix it and now the fraudsters are complaining since they can't fraud anymore.

And so on. How do you figure it out? The answer is you don't. You just post a warning like they do.

If you send money / coins anywhere and do not do a lot of research 1st then you are going to sooner or later get scammed.
This is the internet, they are websites, it is not you mom holding your hand as you cross the street.

-Dave
And Coinmarketcap ( from - 30$ ) and CoinGecko ( from - 103$ - not bad))) ) have the pricing plans for access for their API, accordingly they have some "pricing users" and complaints receive from "pricing users" not hard to distinguish from bot's complaints. How I write higher - if would be a desire,  and so - take money for access they can but delete quotes they can't.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: April 23, 2023, 11:02:24 AM
I used cryptocurrencies since 2017 and scammers for me are not a problem but I imagine myself for a newbie position. 95% of people never have Bitcoin and the situation when you give your money to scammers for self experience and most famous coin ranking sites help you for that is incredible. I understand what any project can become "scammer" how GDax, FTX and many ICO some time ago but people can take your money during five months( FIVE month Carl ) and the quotes from that exchange continue to entice new, new people and nobody cares. I, as a developer, know that need to tighten up some specialists for some days and the problem will be resolved, but they don't do it. Why ? Indeed is crypto-community still so wild ?
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: April 21, 2023, 01:05:07 PM
they probably can't take responsibility or have a clear approach in these situations and "notify" users with a pop-up is the only legal action they can take.
In general,  I will suggest to use the "basic" rule of not using "little known" or "unreliable" exchanges.
If you how service got ten or more complaints from yours verify users that "pop-up" is weak solution and "can't take" or "can't want" in this question ...

If you take this isolated incident, it does not show either coingecko or coinmarketcap to be helping scammers anymore than the forum does. Here in the forum scams are unmoderated, it rather has a trust system which serves as guides for users with pointers like trust scores and flags. This is a similar disclaimer to what was put up for Bibox exchange.

This does not mean I am saying either platform does not support scammers in other incidences, but not in this case.

- Jay -
Agree with me - forum and exchange are different things)
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Why Coinmarketcap and Coingecko help scammers ? on: April 21, 2023, 11:37:04 AM
One of the biggest and well veiled scammer exchanges is Bibox, when peoples can't take their deposits from December 22. I find on the internet some dozen posts about it on different platforms. But Coinmarketcap and Coingecko think what this phrase: "We have received multiple reports from users being unable to withdraw funds from Bibox. Please exercise caution. "which you can see in exchange description enough for disclaimer and continue place quotes of scammers. I don't think so. They undermine confidence in the crypto industry.
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