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841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 05:10:20 PM
Merit of the Beast.



Now don't spoil this number by randomly awarding me dozens. Or do if you're really itching.  Tongue

I'm dry so you will be stuck at 666 for a while  Grin
842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 03:14:13 PM
finally a climate-neutral possibility to mine bitcoin



That's ridiculous.
Cat-bread's have almost no torque.

I'm more concerned about the labor involved fixing the crankshaft to that particular attach point. I imagine claw proof protective gear is in order.

You should always add a spring between the cat and the bread. (aka an rpm governor)
When the cat rotates too fast the centrifugal force pushes the bread farther away from the cat reducing the speed.  Grin
843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 10:58:30 AM
So it's not as bad as you think....  Wink

An asset that has a 10% guaranteed loss every year then.....

Nope.

I take it you don't own a car  Wink
844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 10:47:58 AM

Can't have a boat like that and not have a helicopter...



I like jets better.

I still insist on a 40ft sailboat.

+1

This one is on my list if BTC brings me big profits...

845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 10:44:29 AM
I have seen some comments of yachts.

When you have a boat there are only two happy days:

- The day you buy it and the day you sell it. Wink



Look at this picture and tell me you don't want it  Grin

Maintenance costs on a 100m ($200M) super yacht aren't that bad

Costs per year
$4,000,000 to $15,000,000 on maintenance
$2,000,000 on crew (30 crew supplement)
$350,000 dockage
$300,000 on provisioning (food/drinks/wine cellar/etc.)
$240,000 insurance
$36,000 on navigation, TV, etc.

Other costs
$1.1 million on refits every few years


Totaling at something like $7M to $20M a year ....

So it's not as bad as you think....  Wink

You say that maintenance is not expensive  Cheesy, I prefer not to think about the amount of BTC you have. Cool

My stack is significant... but won't let me buy a ship like that .... yet Tongue
846  Economy / Speculation / Re: What year will Bitcoin reach $250,000? on: September 11, 2019, 09:44:41 AM
my wild guess in 2021.

in terms of fractals, the current chart looks like early 2016 to me. that suggests the next bubble top is 1.5-2 years away, and i think $250k is very possible in the next cycle.
I believe 2021 as well.

I just hope you guys are right. Waiting for the next bubble sucks Cheesy
847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Meanwhile....

848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2019, 09:33:40 AM
I have seen some comments of yachts.

When you have a boat there are only two happy days:

- The day you buy it and the day you sell it. Wink



Look at this picture and tell me you don't want it  Grin

Maintenance costs on a 100m ($200M) super yacht aren't that bad

Costs per year
$4,000,000 to $15,000,000 on maintenance
$2,000,000 on crew (30 crew supplement)
$350,000 dockage
$300,000 on provisioning (food/drinks/wine cellar/etc.)
$240,000 insurance
$36,000 on navigation, TV, etc.

Other costs
$1.1 million on refits every few years


Totaling at something like $7M to $20M a year ....

So it's not as bad as you think....  Wink
849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Facebook’s Libra + Bitcoin + Trump + Israel = 666 Orwellian Dystopia on: September 10, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
In addition to Israel, agonist theorists have new discussion topics, such as Trump and Libra. I think this is a good advertisement for Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Maybe people who are addicted to conspiracy theories can learn more about Bitcoin and maybe even start using it.


Sorry, but I know the type, they will never adopt bitcoin.

They need the evil conspiracies to rule the Earth, so that they can sell books about these groups.

Its just business for them.

Trump will endorse it if we fork it into TrumpCoin....  Wink
850  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to predict Bit coin price. on: September 10, 2019, 05:43:25 PM
There might be no trick to predicting the price but there is to buying/selling.

If it is quiet and not much is happening buy.
If your grandma and coworkers talk bitcoin every day for a week GTFO! Or wait for the first dump and dump too...

 Tongue
851  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the bitcoin price prediction for 2020? on: September 10, 2019, 05:38:37 PM
$10400  Cheesy
I predict the price of Bitcoin in 2020 will not be far from $ 10k to $ 16k, but if there are more countries in 2020 who follow the leader of China creating their own cryptocurrency, so I predict the price of Bitcoin in 2020 will be at $ 10k to $ 25k.

from what I have noticed, the media that plays a big role in the change in the price of Bitcoin, I hope that there will be no more bad news about Bitcoin.

It was kind of a joke because we are going sideways forever.
It all depends on when the next bull run hits. When it hits I believe $50k to $100k is a good expectation. However FOMO can push it to $1M because crazy people want in....

But then again you could be right if there is no bull run....
852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2019, 05:34:28 PM
what is this usb port for?



Look closer that's a lightning port.

This is a lot better "jeep" I believe.


The gladiator pickups are pretty damn cool.
This jeep used for next world war?

No the zombie apocalypse
853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2019, 03:09:24 PM
This is a fine indicator to follow during bull and bear markets as a trader.



https://twitter.com/ColeGarnerBTC/status/1171160390111072256

Some more details on that indicator here, they seem to say that the top call isn't as reliable as the bottom...
https://medium.com/adaptivecapital/bitcoin-market-value-to-realized-value-mvrv-ratio-3ebc914dbaee
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Thresholds: Going forward, as market cap decreases in volatility, we believe that the upper threshold of MVRV might not prove as reliable — as market cap overextends less and less above realized cap as time progresses. However, we expect the lower threshold to remain useful to detect Bitcoin’s undervaluation in multi-month periods ripe for accumulation.

Interesting. However when we hit the top I expect to see transactions taking long to complete. So it should be taken into account aswell.
854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2019, 01:39:40 PM
The roadster (because it's even more expensive)  Grin Cool

I simply could not drive that down the local chip shop or hemorrhoid clinic without feeling like the biggest dickhead who ever lived or will live. I'd rather spend less on building a full size Lego version. It would look the same and be cooler too.

Even worse... go thrift shopping with this car ....  Grin
855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2019, 01:19:44 PM


Dartz - Black Shark ... to protect against nocoiners  Grin
856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2019, 11:44:03 AM

The roadster (because it's even more expensive)  Grin Cool

857  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the bitcoin price prediction for 2020? on: September 10, 2019, 10:26:18 AM
$10400  Cheesy
858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2019, 10:24:39 AM
New Land Rover Defender released



Used to be a tough car. This looks like it's for a girl...
859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2019, 10:15:07 PM
How could evidence of personal identity have anything whatsoever to do with evidence of protocol change?

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I'm not sure if you're trolling or trying to be serious.

Back at ya.

See any evidence of SegWit in the white paper? No?

Explicitly in front of your face. Willful dereliction of truthiness.

SegWit was indeed an alteration of the Bitcoin protocol. Undeniably. There is really no way to argue otherwise.

I am pretty confident the white paper doesn’t say anything about Turing completeness, legally enforceable smart contracts, token protocols,  large data storage capability and all the other shit in Bitcoin SV marketing

Yet interestingly, all fully supported in the 0.1 version of the Bitcoin protocol. You know, before the Cripple Rangers took control of the codebase. SegWit, on the other hand...

Funny, eh?

So what's the point you are trying to make?

My mistake.  I couldn't see any evidence of them in the white paper.  Thank you for clarifying that it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper.

That is not what I said at all. Are you really that blind that you do not see what I am getting at? Even with your introduction of demonstrably flawed sidebars?

The initial implementation of Bitcoin - 0.1 supports all the features you list. Without recourse to explicit enabling code.
The initial implementation of Bitcoin -- and including up to and through the SegWit Omnibus Changeset Release -- did not support SegWit. Neither explicitly nor as an external implementation. Indeed, the implementation of SegWit was predicated on the most egregious change to the Bitcoin protocol ever enacted.
The features you list did not / do not require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.
SegWit did / does require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.

So when you say "it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper", you're neither right nor wrong. What matters is the protocol itself. SegWit was undeniably a change to that protocol. A rather significant one. Therefore, somewhat 'less Bitcoin-y' -- at least on this axis -- than other implementations which hew to the original.

On the other hand, if some element is decidedly counter to the white paper (chain of digital signatures, anyone?), then that indeed does matter.

It’s hard to keep track of what you were saying when you keep changing it. 

Bullshit. I've been consistent. You've been persistent in finding new words to stick in my mouth.

wtf these new planes have jet engines, and cars have airbags?!?! But but none of this was in the original design!!!

OMG - but still TCP/IP ,  smtp, SWIFT, FIX  have not built in smart contracts - or did I miss u mix apples and crap?

Congrats you managed to fail on all levels, this is truly an accomplishment you should be proud of yourself

TCP/IP - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
smtp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_SMTP
SWIFT - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Worldwide_Interbank_Financial_Telecommunication#SWIFTNet_Phase_2
FIX - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAST_protocol

WTF is this ....  Huh
860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Prediction – $24,000 BTC/USD before Christmas 2019 on: September 09, 2019, 09:28:06 AM
There alot of people getting out at the moment.
Others are playing the volatility.
Once they are out and there is no volatility we will resume our track to the moon.
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