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Just checked the bitmain website and the second batch of the e3 hash is listed for 1800 dollar. Maybe the first batch was cheap but 1800 Dollar (180 mh/s and 800w) for an asic is a actually a horrendous price. Who is gonna buy such an overpriced asic which will be obsolet in a couple of months and the hardware will have zero resell value?
Thats 450 day pay off for an ASIC. Not worth it at all. I get 185 mh/s @ ~700 watts and can mine any algo I want and could still sell my gpus to miners if I chose to.
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reinstall the drivers. I've had issues with drivers going crazy when switching out hardware.
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Using whattomine.com :
1 1080ti = $2.20/$1.74 (revenue/after electricity. The lowest price card on newegg is 750. Thats 431 days till it pays for itself @ current price (mining Nicehash-Lyra2REv2) 1 rx580 8 gig = $1.39/$1.07. The lowest price card on newegg is 320. Thats 299 days till its paid off mining EthereumClassic. 1 1070 = $1.38/$1.10. Cheapest card on newegg is 450. Thats 409 days till paid off.
I know which one I would choose. more $$ does not equal better card for mining.
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Hi guys,
I have a VERY small mining farm, with 25 GPUs -7 x GTX 1080ti -1 x GTX 1070ti -3 x GTX 1070 -13 x RX 570/580 -1 x R9 290x
I want to build another 12 GPU rig, I already have a spare GTX 1080ti. What should I do?
I want to buy another 5 x GTX 1080ti and wait for the GTX 11 series for the rest of the 6 cards, do you have any suggestions?
Its hard to know how any future card will perform, let alone the costs. And that is if you can even get them before mega farms in China buy them all in bulk. I'm sure they will give a boost in hash power because of ddr6, but I doubt there will be much of a drop in power. I am sure they will be incredibly expensive and unavailable for a while.
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First of all, you probably should move this to Bitcoin Discussion since it doesn't necessarily have to do with altcoins.
It's a good question to ask, though. I'm not sure if we're going to be at war anytime soon. I see much of what Trump is doing as political posturing--but who knows. He's a fucking psychopath, and I'm hoping he'll get voted out of office in the next election. I'm still slapping my head that Americans elected him.
If war does break out, crypto is probably going to be low on the priority list, because it'll be an ugly war. People will probably start hoarding precious metals. In fact I'm kind of surprised that the gold market hasn't moved much in the last couple of years, what with all the uncertainty amongst the superpowers. Bitcoin likely will react, but I'm not confident it'll be to the upside. Already this year it's down quite a bit, and that's in the midst of everything N. Korea, Russia, China, and the US have been doing. I just don't know. But I don't think bitcoin or any of the altcoins are in any way flight-to-safety assets like metals are. So people won't be flocking to crypto when they think fiat is going to be unstable.
Thanks for the correction about where to post this. But I was actually uncertain with regards to where to post it since I was talking about cryptocurrencies in general. Thanks once more. Back to Trump. I don't really know what that man wants to achieve. Trying to impose his wishes on every country in the world? How? Sanctions here and there. So why is it only the USA that is always imposing sanctions? Can't they be sanctioned too? The USA only has sanctions against Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Sudan, Cuba, and Venezuela. Venezuela was added in 2018, but before that the last one was added in 1993, or 25 years. Where do you get the idea that the USA is always imposing sanctions?
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The President does not have the power to go to war. He must ask congress for permission to go to war and it must be voted on by the House and Senate. Relations with N. Korea are better now than before. Russia and Iran not so much. China, Iran, N. Korea have no force projection so any military conflict with them would be localized. So unless someone hits the big red button and nukes start flying, I wouldn't worry. Also just a reminder that Obama dropped a bomb every 8 minutes during his election. Were you worried about WW3 then?
How would any of the financial markets hold up? WW2 almost financially broke America. Japan was confiscating and melting peoples steel pots to make weapons. Europe was physically destroyed so they had no real economies. Russia was sending conscripts into combat unarmed then shooting them if they retreated. People were more worried about getting food, water, and shelter than maintaining their wealth. Gold prices maintained their value during the war so most likely precious metals would behave the same way during a massive world war. But you can't eat or drink your gold so it wont do you much good if your starving. Crypto only has value because people are willing to exchange it for goods and services. So ask yourself, would people accept it during a massive crisis? Would people even be able to transfer it during a crisis? Would the public ledgers stay intact? If your side lost what would happen to any wealth you had? Remember what the Nazis did with all the Jewish gold the confiscated?
Now, all scary and political stuff aside, the key to avoiding a war is for countries to become financially dependent on one another. If China declares war with the US, the US retaliates and cancels their government bonds, killing trillions of $$ worth of wealth. China has to import massive amount of resources to manufacture a lot of the stuff they sell back to the US. Without the US buying fake dog poo, their goes more of their GDP. America needs Rare earth elements from around the world to build high tech fighter jets and other high tech items. Without access to those elements, high tech manufacturing is doomed. The point is we are more stable when countries are trading with each other and all parties have a lot to loose in a conflict.
Now, some crack-pot with nukes (i.e N. Korea and Iran) that have routinely threatened to blow up and wipe other countries off the map are the ones you really have to worry about. Luckily N. Korea has committed to disarming their nukes (who knows if that will actually happen). I could go on but its really pointless. I'll just leave my 2 cents worth. I firmly believe cooler heads will prevail and that the people in power are not really willing to risk their lives and more importantly (to them) their vast fortunes. What they say is just political posturing to maintain their position of power and wealth over the people they are in charge of.
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Why is there a need for a login if you are running it locally? are you offering this as a service?
Would greatly appreciate if you could share the code in a public repository. I'm sure I and other developers out there will be able to contribute to it and turn it into a much better product. But overall, good job so far! If it works for you then its good.
I want to be able to view my information while at work so eventually I will open the port it operates on. I do have a web domain I registered a year ago so I may point it towards my machine. I'll see about setting up a GIT repo and pushing the code for others to use. I have no interest in making money off of something like this. It took less than a half day of coding and that's with a couple trips into town.
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So on a boring Sunday, I was sitting around trying to figure out what to do. I've got a couple rigs running Claymores software. Each rig has the HTML report option turned on so I created a server that would pull in those reports, parse the information, then create a new single html report with the information I wanted. I use Node.JS for the server, and authenticate using Passport and passwords are hashed using bcrypt.  Rig 3 doesn't exist, its only there to show a negative result.  Hovering over the results of a individual GPU will bring up the description of the card.  Very simple login page. I'm not good at programming attractive web sites. My skills are mostly in server side code. The user database in mongo db. As you can see, it says my login is not secure. I'm not going to pay for a CA so anyone spying on my network traffic can see my password. I'm not worried about a MIM attack. In the future, I plan on creating the ability to remotely power systems on and off, somehow get GPU temperature (its not included on the Claymore HTML report), and power usage. I also want to track my daily, monthly, and quarterly income so I can track all my costs. Eventually I want to build an android app to do all the same functions. I've already begun messing around with identifying users via user name and password submitted from an app but have had some problems storing authentication tokens. Once I've got the figured out it wouldnt be that hard to submit commands to do various tasks via an app. Any feedback is welcome.
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  Finally got some air-flow in the mining area of my warehouse. 5x 24" fans feeding in through existing openings... and 1x 42" fan feeding out through what used to be a window. I may end up adding another 42" exhaust fan but I will have to knock out some block for that one. Curious, how much power are you pulling and did you have to customize the electrical wiring of the warehouse?
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Why are you mining SIA? I thought ASIC's killed any profitability. Aren't there better coins to dual mine with? Have you tried re-installing the drivers with all 8 cards inserted?
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So Guys, i am a miner. And want share my experience mining using GTX 1060. Total PCbs = 12 GTX 1060 I am a eletronic technical guy, and when start, checking specifications, to run that the Watts per PCB was ~140W , to 160W per PCB. On My country , the price of eletrical resources is high. Really High. So impossible to mantain ( 4 x 150W ) x3 , no profitable schema using that base. So, i start some research about GPUs , Core of Processing, and others things to Check How much each PCB will really need to run. Checking GPUz and others Softwares , that can check the Core GPU is using in real time and you can calculate exactly. On My calculation. Just 65W is needed to run. So My base math : 1 PCB = 65W 4 PCB = 260W Processor = Semprom 145 ( 60 to 100W minumum) Motherboard = Gigabyte 970 ( 100w to 130w~) Total Watts = 490W So, my previos calculation , show to me , base ATX Watts was 800W to 1200W, (super higher), to 490W is a really Good cut. I bougth a Coursair CX 500 , some adapters, a low sram 2GB , to run that. My Rig showed above. https://imgur.com/gallery/5P5ugKMUsing that configuration, i got some profit. Corsair like a fire always, super hot. But all good with PCBs. I hope this help others miners on that bear market. ETH Algo Mining - It seems like you aren't adhering to the 80% rule of the power supply. You shouldn't pull more than 440 watts. But if its working my guess is you over estimated the power draw on the CPU and motherboard. That seems kind of high considering your processor is mostly idle (I'm on a PC that's mining with 1 gtx1060 and my processor stays around 9-15% utilization)
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I am building up a small mine In Arizona despite bitcoin prices dropping. My per server cost is avging around 150 a month so sometimes it’s even sometimes it’s a little over . 5s9 , 2l3+ , and one honking gpu miner that keeps crashing wish I never built it . Would have easily fit like two more l3s. I hit Capacity of half cab and not sure if I should expand as I would like to balance my risk and investment. Already like 20k in the hole on credit . Sometimes the gpu miners require restart and that resets my power settings. Is there a way to script power settings on amd wattman? https://imgur.com/gallery/6fK0wI live in Az too. I dont mine bitcoin, just GPU mine. My GPUs used to crash a lot until I stuck a box fan directly onto them. That seemed to fix the crashing. When I took the fan off they started crashing again, so its back on now. There are ways to script cycling AC power and front panel switches, I know because I was the one who built our power cycling system for specialized computers for unit testing. (Got a promotion for it too  ) The heat from the units does cause the AC to run a lot. Utilize cool outside air when ever you can by opening the windows. I've been toying with the idea of venting the hot air outside but that would require a window be open and then I would be venting the nice cold AC air. I should decide what to do soon though because its going to start getting hot again.
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If eventually ASICS take over, what to buy apart from the shady Chinese? Where are western ASIC manufacturers? USA, Germany, UK, France, anyone? Where are the competent "men of the West"? Are there any left?
The labor force and materials are a lot cheaper in China than anywhere else in the whole Europe. Bitmain doesnt build his own chips. Intel has a foundery business so anyone could contract with them to build ASICs. It comes down to ROI, experience, money, and fore site. The western companies that have the experience and the money dont have the fore site to see the profits are there.
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Pick out the 2-5 coins you like, for me it would be BTC, ETH, XMR, LTC, BCH. Allot 2500 for each coin (or 10,0000/n where n is the number of coins). Then dollar cost average into them over a month or 2 months. Once a week, month, day, some set timeframe, buy a certain amount of each coin. This protects you from a big drop in price (althought I think we are done with that for a while), but will limit your gains should the price go up. However if you believe in the long term for the coins then missing out on a few %'s shouldn't make that big of a deal.
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Mining should never be done in apartments. People doing it are looking a way to be burned alive and want to take their neighbors with them.
Thats one way to keep your neighbors from stomping around at 2am when you need to wake up at 5am.
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Remember heat is bad for computers. Last summer I saw it hit 124 degrees one day. It was a bad day to not put up the reflector in my windshield and to park facing the sun 
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My new sets of 1060s came in  . The ssc is mining 5 mh more over my other 1060s. Wow the difference is amazing even though it is a Hynix memory. My SSC is 24MHs, my FTWs do 20MHs. All 3 are Samsun memory.
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10 months to completely get your money back?
Sounds like a fuking STEAL.
Tell me one other business venture you can capture your money back in 10 months.
Name one boys.
PS. this same shortage happened during the summer and people claimed you would never get your money back at that rate.
Most are mining for the wrong reasons: money.
Selling drugs has a much better ROI than mining. Lol. Isn't that the truth. But you don't risk going to jail mining. Unless you don't pay taxes.
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Hi guys i have a 1060GTX and it has 19.8 Mh/s, bad deal. Regards
Question is that OCed? If it is sounds like Hynix memory, if not sounds closer to Micron memory. I've got 2 that do about that when over clocked with samsung memory.
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Currently a GTX1050Ti costs 54% the cost of a GTX1060 6G card, it mines at 59% the hashrate of a 1060 and uses 72% of the power of a 1060. So in terms of cost it is slightly better but not really power usage Seeing that it takes up an additional slot of a MB requiring more MB,CPU,RAM for another rig it probably isn't worth it. Also have to take Resell value into account if you ever want to sell them. 1060 or 1070 will sell better later to Gamers than a GTX1050Ti imo.
Unlike the 1060's I can actually find the 1050ti's for sale.
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