A couple things could be going on. First, your payment may be split between different blocks. If you look at the queue (when stats are up) you will see that from time to time people have payments in two pieces that cross a block boundary. The other thing that could be going on is that the pool pays out closer to what you earned prior to the existing block when you are paid. In other words, the "as of last block" amount not "estimated total." The rest gets added to your next payout. If your payout is less than "as of last block" and you aren't split between different blocks, then I don't have any idea what could be wrong.

At the moment the stats appear to be broken. This happens every now and then, but the real magic doesn't happen on the stats server, so just keep hashing and it will update eventually.

US East: order Monday, receive Friday usually. Once on a Saturday (shipping delay, UPS upgraded to Saturday delivery) and once on a Thursday.

They are going to have to change their refund policy on these. What's to stop someone from buying one and bringing it back in 30 days for a full refund?

Java may or may not be a "great language" but java coders suck. Java breeds lazy coders which makes for software full of bugs. Yes, a great many big corporation are at risk because they have to run old and vulnerable JRE on the client and server in order to support software that the java coder couldn't manage to make work correctly with the latest release of the JRE. Java and Adobe products are constantly battling for which is the biggest vulnerability.

Wish I knew this group buy was coming before I ordered an S2.

That assumes that the goal of the commercial farms is to make a profit in bitcoin. That there is no ulterior motive for preserving the status quo commercial banking and money transferring systems, or for bringing their own crypto currency to the market. "See, bitcoin is broken, but here we have this massive farm and will use it to back up and secure bitcoin2."

It is straight PPS at 4%. It works just fine from east coast US. Vardiff is set differently than you might expect from other pools, for example an S1 may get 512 or 1024 diff shares, but the average hash rate evens out. Nothing mysterious about them unless you count not being in English. Solid pool really.

There was this thread started a long while ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355339.0

Seeing if there is any interest in this. It is a lifetime paid account. Several level 85 characters, several hundred gold, purchased every upgrade including the last one. Over 5k turbine points. Most characters at 85 have full stats bonuses. Send PM if interested for more information. Please, seriously interested people only.

You might not get them before the 12th day of Christmas. Still waiting on my in stock black Friday jalapeno to ship.

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Yeah it's a pain. I hear there are people that will sit around figuring those things out for pennies or less.

Ok, but why do you want the price to be lower. I don't consider myself to be some kind of trading genius by any stretch. Nor did I babysit it for hours on end for small trades. It was an interesting hobby for a little while, but for the moment I am out.

It would probably be in my interest to buy and hold right now, which means I would love the price you suggest. There are more people interested in making profit on the volatility so the price is higher. I am, instead, diversifying into several group buys which are a much better long-term dean even than .03, although they unfortunately don't start right away.

I think in the end our goals are the same. We are both saying that the price is too high for mining. The difference is that I'm saying to use it for what it is: A commodity trading platform with no transaction fees where the commodity or it's real value is mostly irrelevant except that there is a dividend. You are saying to stop buying until the price reaches a level that mining is a viable investment. I don't think cex.io is a mining platform, and I don't think it ever will be. The price will always be inflated at times because of the hype/panic cycle. My suggestion is to use your knowledge of those cycles to profit, because with the amount of traffic the site gets, the day will never come when it is priced right for mining.

Who has implied "I have made money trading, therefore most people will make money trading"? I looked back through the thread and couldn't see anyone. From what I can tell there are a few categories of people here:

1. People that believe money can be made or lost by careful or not so careful trading / botting.
2. People that believe easy money can be made by mining; they don't read or participate on these forums, but they do pump money into the system.
3. People that have a vested interest in seeing the market on cex.io fluctuate wildly in order to profit from it and are thus trying to spread FUD/hype about it.
4. People that wish they had enough to invest, or made some poor choices leading to big losses and just want others to share in their misery.

I would say most people fall into category 1 but the most vocal people fall into 3.

If cex.io wanted this to be a mining operation they wouldn't have implemented a no-fee commodity trading platform. Without an external auditor of their platform I'm sure they are making plenty on the rises and falls themselves. If there's anything negative to be said about them, that's it right there. Everything else is just crying (4).

You are right that the value of a GHS will approach 0 over time, but it will never reach absolute 0 unless the value of a bitcoin and all other SHA256 coin is also 0. It is just as easy to make money in a declining market by playing the short term rises and falls. The value of a share of GHS on Cex is much different than the value of the GHS warming my basement in both positive and negative ways. It is smart to understand those differences before investing, but isn't required. The market says 0.074 right now, so that's what it is. Find someone who cares nothing for profit and is willing to sell their cex.io GHS to you at 0.03 on the belief that's all they should be worth and I'm sure we'll find people willing to buy all they are selling at that price.

Why is this so much higher than your other group buys? $130 for 40GHS plus some kind of group ownership of the hardware is much more appealing than this. Comparing to Cex.io is only valid if I can mine with this for an hour and then sell it for higher, which I can do with Cex.io all the time. Also, Cex.io is perpetual meaning that it doesn't cease to have any value after a year. Still, Cex.io makes absolutely no financial sense as a mining operation only.

Anyway, I'm just trying to understand what this significant premium on GHS buys me over your standard group buys.

Thanks.

Maybe you nay-sayers are right and I haven't turned a profit at cex.io and it is all a big scam, but my wallet tells me otherwise. I don't have a single bitcent there at the moment, but my total withdrawals exceed my total inputs, and by better margins than I described previously, so I'm happy. I'm really sorry for you if you lost money by panic selling during a drop or buying on hype during a high point. That doesn't mean that everyone makes poor decisions or that the service or price is in any way flawed. I profited through the last few difficulty adjustments from you and others who did the same.

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Yes, so long as bitcoin or an alt is returning more than power cost, it will run. Otherwise there are people still paying double cost on eBay...

Order 74x
Payment Date: 11/14
Method: Bitcoin
X-1
Quantity 1
Destination US
blackarrowsoftware.com

Mine went to "In Production" this evening. Hopefully that means delivered before the next difficulty adjustment.