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Hm... we have news and Visdude didn't talk shit yet. Are you still there buddy? I hope you're allright???
I feel the love
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I hope you got some Verge in you  It's actually kinda funny - surprised the marketing slogan wasn't used: "WE are Verge"! But seriously though, if you have Verge, hold on to it!
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Crier, goto stock.exchange to sell your GRFT. I'm waiting you there  Don't think you're talking to me  But in case you are - I have enough of a robust circle who are willing to speculate and hold a coin in exchange for good a good return to me. Doesn't hurt me any to sell. The "exchanges" listed are too low volume to be considered an exchange IMO.
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Sold it all, didn't have much to begin with, but after losing most of its value and with the devs sitting on a pile of ICO money and doing nothing, I got tired.
Good luck to the rest of you.
So sad, I hope you keep some. If a one day they decided to pay bigger exchange fee you can cover your loses. But it seems they don't want to pay fee. I agree with you on keeping some, but what has the team done to inspire confidence in this project? Other than the occasional post on here which doesn't offer any value. At this point, I've liquidated over 90% and keeping the last mil. Once it hits under $0.01, it's getting dumped. No sense in holding on to it.
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market cap is still very low for a coin like this to be honest i'm bullish even with the tech probs verge (XVG) skyrocketed while far more serious attacks were ongoing...
i mean this thing has more or less the mcap of a pure ****coin, w/o any original white paper or work at 186 sat, we're in the buy zone
I'm trying to stay hopeful, just not bullish (regarding GRAFT). I've dropped 60% of my failed ICO coins in order to recoup the losses by trading in other coins. The rest I'm keeping just in case or as a write-off. As for Verge, they did have some serious attacks, but the difference is that their team had it addressed within 24 - 48 hours max! A lot of serious issues here are left lingering which does not inspire confidence at all sadly. How would a moderate American business declare a taxable windfall through an acceptance of a digital asset? This is a basic question that needs a very simple answer. As well. if I accept a three dollar payment of Lite Coin, how is that stored? Is it accepted by the vendor as GRFT, LTC, $USA$ or whatever currency the vendor decides? This is important because the mechanism that transfigures these factors on a very concurrent basis is absolutely vital to the foundation of this market as an asset of it's own. This particular project could be the gateway to a better place of trade.
Very good questions I am interested to hear about as well. I would love to see more details in a whitepaper or something official at least. Again, I'm not slamming or trolling the GRAFT team, I simply would like to see a more proactive approach to how current issues are being handled; this is after all a very business centric coin I was hoping to implement in our nationwide chains, but the lack of timely fixes or even addressing issues has been abysmal at best.
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Just thinking out loud - Something I'm curious about and I'm assuming that this is the case: Subscription prices in XVG are relative to the market prices; so with the market price being low currently, Mindgeek and direct investors are raking in XVG (again, assuming people are subscribing etc using XVG). IF this is the case, then at some point we may see even more price drops (if this isn't happening already) once they try to liquidate any of their XVG assets. While there's nothing wrong with that (it keeps the market going), I'd love to see other ventures or wider adoption of XVG in big commerce.
Heck, we have a working extension for Magento 2 now that we'll be using in our online-store fronts, and the next step is to integrate that into our POS systems across our stores in 4 states. I'd like to see XVG gain traction before our implementation launches! (for anonymity purposes and to avoid spam I won't be disclosing who or what this is for).
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I buy verge in bittrex when the price is 0.0000093 btc because look at the previous trading chart price 0.000014, I hope the verge price goes back to 0.000014 btc but long wait price is still down
trading volume verge in bittrex is very high, and the price is fluctuating, just waiting time for a verge price increase This is a good thing (heavy trading volumes) - it's an opportunity to increase your XVG holdings if you do it right. I use various automated bots on a few exchanges just to keep trading. DYOR and set algos that work for you.
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@NChink: all official infos are on our roadmap (see sumokoin.org). @Visdude: you're a fudder and you insult us in every post you make. I think it's clear for you and all other people reading this threat that we don't take you serious anymore (since a long time). @NChink again: better get your information from other (better) sources  Cheers. I'm not trying to fud btw (hell, can't fud a coin I hold several handfuls of BTC worth:). I did check the official roadmap and the only wallet changes currently listed are with the online wallet. Having "watching only" wallets available would be a nice option, especially when maintaining multiples. Either way, I'm staying hopeful for more features!
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hello guys....Tradeogre wallet is offline...why?
Monero wallets are offline as well. DM them on Twitter @tradeogre - they are very responsive there.
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That would be awesome, but it does not look likely.More likely is USDT pairing on Binance and that would be really good news also. IF XVG becomes part of Coinbase which has a lot of gov focus, privacy is pretty much out of the door (for the most part). I do like the Binance move though. As for this "petition", it's more like a poll and a very small one at that; not sure if that's enough to move Coinbase towards XVG adoption.
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How to send Sumokoin from a wallet I create in wallet.sumokoin.com ?
You'd have to download an actual wallet (see sumokoin.com for official/direct links - do not click on links by 3rd parties). Once you have it installed, you can enter your mnemonic to restore (recreate) your paper wallet. ...and since that means that the newly restored wallet would then be exposed "online" because the official wallet is incapable of cold wallet/offline signing features, I'd take necessary precautions to minimize vulnerability of your "online" wallet. Yes true. I would love to see a wallet like Armory with watching wallets and similar security functions. Curious if the devs have any plans on coming up with something like this. Believe me. I've been asking them about it for a while now which should already be a standard crypto wallet feature nowadays. Monero GUI wallet has such feature but Armory was I think the first one to implement it way back then. The last reply I got from the usual suspects (cheerleaders) on here was: "No cause you ve asked for it. If it wasnt for you we would have done it". So yeah, a very mature, well-balanced, professional bunch /s. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1905086.msg33575679#msg33575679So I've seen some of your posts and interactions with others on here and tbh I thought it was an internal joke or something. I did see this comment: Does this update happen to include the cold/offline signing GUI wallet feature as indicated by any chance?
No cause you ve asked for it. If it wasnt for you we would have done it So @sumogr in all seriousness can we expect any of these features soon?
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How to send Sumokoin from a wallet I create in wallet.sumokoin.com ?
You'd have to download an actual wallet (see sumokoin.com for official/direct links - do not click on links by 3rd parties). Once you have it installed, you can enter your mnemonic to restore (recreate) your paper wallet. ...and since that means that the newly restored wallet would then be exposed "online" because the official wallet is incapable of cold wallet/offline signing features, I'd take necessary precautions to minimize vulnerability of your "online" wallet. Yes true. I would love to see a wallet like Armory with watching wallets and similar security functions. Curious if the devs have any plans on coming up with something like this.
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How to send Sumokoin from a wallet I create in wallet.sumokoin.com ?
You'd have to download an actual wallet (see sumokoin.com for official/direct links - do not click on links by 3rd parties). Once you have it installed, you can enter your mnemonic to restore (recreate) your paper wallet.
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i hate onions. (tho green peppers are worse)
USD is used every day to buy porn.
+1 I see what you did there!  I don't understand why XVG is vilified - some of the comments for instance "XVG is porn" can be applied to almost EVERY form of payment, whether it is fiat, barter etc etc. If a payment method can satisfy a deal so be it. Oh well, you'll always have the random voice pin-holing specific use case because they fail to see the big picture. In this case Crypto (and XVG) is a valid payment method and you can't stop it! PS, USD is used every day to buy porn and more - hell, it's even used every day in crimes, yet it's still considered a valid payment method in many parts of the world!
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Ok. Nobody answered my question. so, I researched the block timestamps in Bitcoinwiki. They say it may not exactly accurate.(Block times are accurate only to within an hour or two) https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_timestampTimestamp order is not important. My problem solved. It's what I posted in my first response to you (clock drift) - it is working as intended. However, I don't recall seeing a 2 hour difference between specific blocks within the last 11 entries which is why I asked as well.
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0 miners lol  Nobody is going to mine solo. That's what a community is for; he/she was simply asking for feedback - no need to shut him down like that. On the other hand, it would be nice to see at least 1 miner (the poster perhaps?) on there 
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To graft-project, How can you resolve this timestamps problem in your blockchain? If you ignore this problem, there is no future for Graft. Please, respond my question!  I see many blocks have wrong timestamps, now. height age [h:m:s] size [kB] tx hash fees outputs in(nonrct)/out ring size tx size [kB] 66155 01:31:15 13.30 7b77e644ababd155b99eb21fd5a0a00a34500986e3e8f641b108308eb43778d7 N/A 1705.842 0(0)/1 N/A 0.09 51285843b9bc781d07eef4b451fc4d92132017c512cac5138285f42970314d32 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 66154 00:26:53 0.12 d42c41ccc78b608f5ef4b68182b463a2770fea6f0edfa086dbadfdf59bc6f2e7 N/A 1705.750 0(0)/1 N/A 0.12 66153 00:26:44 22.61 feb88598b9f4eb58e2a532a81ccf52df2877b06f194b928d67dee0e7c97d7701 N/A 1706.381 0(0)/1 N/A 0.12 e4bebd2932ffceaf16fd472ed198ab4aeaa9e95ccd359f5ff4638cef44a100a9 0.628 ? 24(0)/2 5 22.49 66152 01:32:31 56.40 c660ee708e85c3e4394ffe57f310abd0c36ae37d88dd432dfc1fec9114e1d7ec N/A 1706.145 0(0)/1 N/A 0.09 So, there is indeed an issue here - I looked at the timestamps and as you can see in block 66109, it does NOT fit into the median calc! Graft devs - how do you explain that?? https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66110 1524216658 (2018-04-20 05:30AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66109 1524223476 (2018-04-20 07:24AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66108 1524216287 (2018-04-20 05:24AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66107 1524216172 (2018-04-20 05:22AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66106 1524216076 (2018-04-20 05:21AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66105 1524215997 (2018-04-20 05:19AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66104 1524215606 (2018-04-20 05:13AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66103 1524215231 (2018-04-20 05:07AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66102 1524215127 (2018-04-20 05:05AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66101 1524214997 (2018-04-20 05:03AM) https://blockexplorer.graft.network/block/66100 1524214770 (2018-04-20 04:59AM)
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What happen to the blockchain? https://blockexplorer.graft.network/height age [h:m:s] size [kB] tx hash fees outputs in(nonrct)/out ring size tx size [kB] 65940 01:27:56 0.12 8730a4129b067d1c97dc61930b6f5b49b13bd5fedac5780ad1cafec98beaf496 N/A 1706.446 0(0)/1 N/A 0.12 65939 00:32:51 158.34 603e2cf025b1d22991a2b8a5d9ed822db2d4cb95f7912ef0bb1da4942a738210 N/A 1710.818 0(0)/1 N/A 0.10 block 65940 is older than block 65939. [edit] block 65940's age was decreased and increasing now(see below). 65941 01:52:37 227.17 53674b9a40f1a31957770dd96ad62fc3965ec3d021c0a8e15f91bc3ffd41f9aa N/A 1708.027 0(0)/1 N/A 0.10 2902f5c7b0807608e2ff6ba3a1415881abca2e21e8411fdaba1efd9d5fef2a21 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 b98d52d89a0b46ca15655119561e6e7ccc9b135ae5fd8597d62680c44f49f702 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 453ee6291ee54a015b160f99fe1ac6361c39964f47f70e394685fde9d702686d 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 b1939466f56fdb1b8e856df83f495f13f57a6118b6d3af23b19badfb0bf45ced 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 c993550c79cbdc9c0edb10ea170e59938ae493d27cd71056fe4749f700d7fe71 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 5557833471584bfcaf0cf29ea1eecd623b4e2613b9ed0c7ac05c05cc1fe3067a 1.106 ? 2(0)/26 5 161.00 65940 00:00:24 0.12 8730a4129b067d1c97dc61930b6f5b49b13bd5fedac5780ad1cafec98beaf496 N/A 1706.446 0(0)/1 N/A 0.12 65939 02:01:11 158.34 603e2cf025b1d22991a2b8a5d9ed822db2d4cb95f7912ef0bb1da4942a738210 N/A 1710.818 0(0)/1 N/A 0.10 Can you check the blockexplorer? I found the odd ones below.(please, see the ages) 65912 01:42:38 0.09 5e8ca460e2045ef048123abd4a5f41eba31b9990a4836a48464b47240fadb922 N/A 1706.537 0(0)/1 N/A 0.09 65911 00:16:06 145.33 d1c0aeffbef5ed71a49f9db31938d1e2ba77c06d6b7f72c15429d225636d07fa N/A 1707.551 0(0)/1 N/A 0.12 1576ee22969bfed50a58b085d274b113c8c039ccc559cc6e8a102d494126c98b 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 d6caf4073c1f3776bf537903fe5ae2f271e14da88387cd9e111679d2a458b9dd 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 4e6584bcc306e9085ccc912e48850082aebb533970ba9ba62e7590ab2f8dd8ee 0.096 ? 2(0)/2 5 13.21 44a8e91842c515196cc2c74f9e953662c64988cc95a20738702b8163ce97c04a 0.724 ? 2(0)/17 5 105.58 65910 00:15:00 0.12 373f631138e70a4c19de91ad468f50f3102593dc49e139a53eb74883ac3f50fd N/A 1706.544 0(0)/1 N/A 0.12 65909 01:44:08 0.10 94cf8101e11dc6989b0df885c04267f1406914193cffa464acd7486ab32a49eb N/A 1706.547 0(0)/1 N/A 0.10 Keep clock drift in mind. Take the timestamps of the previous 10/11 blocks to calculate clock drift (and validate) Median TS and you can see that the blocks are valid and that it's working as designed. Unless I'm totally wrong, then I'm open to correction (but I've seen this before).
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Nope, sure isn't... TONS of people have already bought their Premium accounts using Verge. You realize $10 purchases don't move the needle on a billion dollar currency in one day, right? There are just a ton of fud peddlers who want to diminish what is actually the biggest deal in Crypto to date. Sell! Please! I'm banking a LOT of coins on the folks who thought they were going to get rich in a day and selling the coin below what it's worth. Let's also try to remember that TokenPay is on-board with Verge. Let's also try to remember that we just advanced this one coin by exposing over 28 Billion new potential coin holders with just PornHub alone. Don't forget all the other sites owned by MindGeek. That's just one partnering. How many more are in the works? Yeah. Keep selling! TONS of people have already bought accounts with Verge with assuming $10 each purchase, yet the price needle doesn't move? LOL What did I predict about dumb fanboys and their even dumber efforts at clutching on straws?  It's not the individual $10 use of the coin that moves the value, it's the use case, yes for those dumb little kids who don't understand the market basics and yet try to act like experts, it's the use case and its potential for wider acceptance that drives the value up. Seeing how price has since splattered, continue indulging yourself in such wild hallucinations as 28 billion new potential coin holders .... that really takes the cake but given the intelligence level of most Verge fanboys, we have not hit the rock bottom of sheer stupidity yet. I'm surprised you take the time out of your day to grace us with your invaluable insight! Don't you have to be somewhere else hyping up your future coin, or are you so worried that you'll be one of the many who's not making any money out of the daily opportunities Verge offers many (and will continue to do so as long as trades are going on)? Either way, good luck to you and your own pipe dreams. PS, I won't be responding to you - that "ignore" button is a wonderful thing!
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Some of the proxy nodes ( Which GUi and mobile clients) uses have issues (Where balance is not updated). We are working on the nodes and I will update once issue is resolved.
Looks like this has been resolved on the wallets, thank you!
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