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41  Economy / Goods / Re: Buying silver @ spot for BTC or LTC - PM ME on: June 19, 2016, 04:17:46 AM
Are you interested in Eagles @ about 19.25 per? Several hundred available. We must use an escrow which I will pay for.
But I would not accept returns (you wouldn't need to, they would mostly be right out of my monster boxes and genuine)

Are you the original owner of this account?

I am interested in Eagles, but at the title says at spot. BTC is rising rapidly which more than makes up for any premiums. Frankly I am taking a loss in growth opportunity in order to diversify my holdings, and at that price I could buy them with cash anyway from a reputable dealer (probably cheaper).

I am not interested in using escrow, it will not protect me in the event of fake metal, and I have completed many large PM trades without escrow already without issue. Additionally the ability to return possibly fake coins is a requirement. I don't know you, nor do I know who you bought from. You might be honest but may have purchased fake coins unknowingly and not want to face reality when I take a look at them.

If you don't want to accept returns then I might as well just send money upfront without escrow and hope you don't rip me off. I have been trading here for 5 years, been entrusted with thousands in value, and completed hundreds of trades every time honoring my agreements. See my trust history and ask them yourself.


I am the original owner of this account.
42  Economy / Goods / Re: Tacticool Gear/GiftCards/CDs/DVDs/and other KnickKnacks... on: June 18, 2016, 07:48:45 AM
All images and the price loads fine for me (and I assume most everyone else).
43  Economy / Goods / Re: Magical Flash Light For Sale! on: June 16, 2016, 12:48:47 AM
An example: https://www.amazon.com/Long-Dynamo-Flashlight-Generating-Power/dp/B005SM4P1U

LEDs can use an insanely small amount of power, so 16 days on doesn't surprise me. Sorry to ruin your magic. At least you know now.
44  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: turtlehurricane is deleting most of his post history and editing his old posts on: June 15, 2016, 05:34:50 AM
I live near this user if he still lives in the Madison WI area. Any users whom he still owes Bitcoin please PM me and we can discuss options for possible retrieval of owed funds.
45  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I need a help with user "InBitsWeTrust" on: June 15, 2016, 05:27:13 AM
OP, in the future FYI, I do escrow for a 1% fee, and I am well versed in metals trading. Sorry to hear about your loss. With high value items it is always a good idea to use escrow.
46  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Locked out of Bter by 2FA on: June 15, 2016, 05:23:12 AM
Have you checked to make sure your email provider is not blocking their emails?
47  Economy / Goods / Re: Tacticool Gear/GiftCards/CDs/DVDs/and other KnickKnacks... on: June 14, 2016, 10:34:41 PM
= $100

Quote my text to get the BB code for active live Bitcoin prices.
48  Economy / Auctions / Re: Hero member account 720+ potential on: June 14, 2016, 04:23:25 PM
OP is a scammer, as I have just recovered my account! thanks god!

If you are the original owner of this account, what was the musical instrument you sold me a while back?

Good one! I belive TECSHARE that this transaction was made. Answer that question and then you will have chance to recover your name.

that valid only if original OP have dael with TECHSHARE outside bitcointalk.org, otherwise hacker
can easily find details of the conversation in PM inbox  .

I had considered that, thanks for making that one easy for him -_-

I wanted to see if he even bothered to reply. I have other questions about transactions I can ask anyway that aren't in the messages.
49  Economy / Auctions / Re: Hero member account 720+ potential on: June 13, 2016, 01:55:45 AM
OP is a scammer, as I have just recovered my account! thanks god!

If you are the original owner of this account, what was the musical instrument you sold me a while back?
50  Economy / Goods / Re: What would you REALLY want to purchase from Canada? on: June 12, 2016, 02:34:06 PM
OTC muscle relaxers.  I think the laws in Canada are much less stringent than the US, though I don't know the laws that govern shipping pharmaceuticals across the border.  I know sending prescription meds is fine if there's a legit prescription, not sure about OTC stuff.

I love how suddenly the rules are more of a grey area when it is something you want xD
51  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 11, 2016, 10:36:59 PM

1- Explain how the seismic record supports YOUR argument. After all you were the first one to bring it up claiming it supported your argument. He who claims proves. Pointing this burden of proof back at me without explaining your own point is a logical fallacy.

2- Explain the precise mechanism that makes the force of gravity transfer laterally to throw 4 ton hunks of steel 600 feet sideways multiple times in every direction, as well as propel debris in an upward arc in violation of Newtons first law of motion by violating the forces of inertia and gravity.

3- Explain how two 110 story buildings fall at a rate of speed that demonstrates little to no resistance from thousands of supports designed with thousands of percent of redundancy thru the path of most resistance.

4- Explain how building 7, according to NIST itself fell at free fall speeds for over 2 seconds REQUIRING the synchronous removal of ALL support structures in those levels in order to be possible for any frame of time.

5- Explain who is offering this billion dollar payout for talking about the coordination of the attacks.

6- Explain how about 12 stories of a building was able to crush the other 98 stories completely to the ground without itself being destroyed, and how a similar effect could be repeated again in the other tower in violation of Newton's 3rd law of motion.

7- Explain how a hurricane is a "static load"

8- Explain how kerosene fires could weaken the steel structures enough to cause a complete collapse of both towers in spite of not being even capable of reaching sufficient temperatures to do this let alone long enough burn times to do so EVEN IF they did (which they didn't).

9- Explain how planes could impart sufficient kinetic energy to completely collapse the structures in spite of them being specifically designed to be able to withstand this exact scenario.

10- Explain how temperatures in the 800-1000 Kelvin range were created in the debris pile 5 days after the attack as measured by NASA satellites.


You demand accountability for my statements over and over again (which I have been providing) yet repeatedly gloss over and just ignore anything that does not confirm your own bias. Convenient you do not have to provide any evidence in response to these points. In your mind denial is evidence enough.

1-10 COMPLETELY AVOIDED yet again



I don't declare them debunked.  The math that I present may well do that, though.

For example let's take your gem of a rebuttal.

Oh really? Too bad that 2000% over engineered metric was for JUST THE OUTER COLUMNS. The outer columns only supported about 40% of the total load.

Are you fucking kidding?  The 120x load still applies, for the perimeter to 40% of the total load, and for the central columns, for 60% of the total load.  Your argument is still defeated.  Get real please.  Evasions don't work, the entire record of the argument is in these posts.  Over and over you have simply denied a refutation of an argument.  Your own logic REQUIRES THE BUILDING TO FAIL WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES. 

And this is just prime comedy -

Now, what about that rather laughable "free fall speed?"  Let's hear where and how exactly you get to that conclusion?   Because it sure isn't obvious from the seismic record.  That shows relatively low levels for ten seconds, then fifteen seconds of heavy impacts.  Maybe you think stuff from the top of the building show impact first, then last of all stuff from the bottom?  

Come on, let's hear the Truther view.  Because I don't see how a calculation of "free fall time" using the absolute tip of the WTC has any relation to a collapse of the whole thing from the 78th floor.


No your bullshit about loads does not still apply, because the figure of 2000% redundancy is for ONLY THE OUTER COLUMNS which support only 40% of the load. Even if by some miracle this were true, the top of a building falling is not going to demolish an entire building below it that is was designed to hold up, especially since this would violate Newtons 3rd law of motion.



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1. The Towers were made to withstand plane crashes;
2. There wasn't near enough heat from the plane fuel to do the job.

Neither of these assertions is true.



1. As I previously explained, the towers were designed to withstand impacts from Boeing 707 passenger airliners traveling at 600mph.

A) NYC WTC 'designed to withstand multiple airliner impacts' Frank De Martini construction boss

B) Twin Towers Engineered To Withstand Jet Collision

C) Towers built to withstand jet impact

D) The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707 - DC 8 ) travelling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such a collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact.

E) Sullivan consults, one of the trade center's original structural engineers, Les Robertson, on whether the towers would collapse because of a bomb or a collision with a slow-moving airplane. He is told there is little likelihood of a collapse no matter how the building was attacked.


2. Again, as previously mentioned, in order to sufficiently weaken the steel support structure of the WTC for a collapse, temperatures in excess of 2000 F would be required for several hours, well above the 56 minutes between the impact and the collapse of the first tower. The events of that day, 3 high rise steel framed buildings ALL completely "collapsing from fire" was unprecedented, and statistically improbable.

A) We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000F for several hours.

B) Lead WTC Structural Engineer John Skilling: “We looked at every possible thing we could think of that could happen to the buildings, even to the extent of an airplane hitting the side… Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed. [But] the building structure would still be there.”

C) Based on four standard fire resistance tests that were conducted under a range of insulation and test conditions, NIST found the fire rating of the floor system to vary between 3/4hour and 2hours; in all cases, the floors continued to support the full design load without collapse for over 2 hours.

D) National Fire Protection Association publications show that there are about 110 high rise fires in buildings over 13 stories each year.  In the last 550 of those fires not one collapsed.  

3. So your argument is the plane impact made multiple 4-ton girders fly in several directions at once, some of which were not even in the direction of the plane's momentum? Of all of the hundreds of videos of the impacts, do you see even one that shows anything like a girder flying out of the impact hole?

The 4-ton girders landined hundreds of feet from their placement in the towers requiring the ejecting force of explosions for this distance of lateral movement. This is not up for debate, this is a matter of the laws of physics. They could not have been thrown this distance from the towers from a collapse. This information comes directly from the FEMA reports.

4. Buildings CAN NOT collapse at free fall speeds. The ONLY way under the laws of physics a building can fall at free fall speed is if there is NO RESISTANCE. A collapse as described by the official narrative would include resisting force as the floors impacted the lower levels beneath it creating deceleration. Again, this is not up for debate, it is a law of physics. The only possible way for the buildings to fall at those speeds would be if the supports were BLOWN OUT before the material above it impacted it.

As far as your argument about the engineer, you are seriously claiming that you think people would blame him for this as if it was some kind of engineering failure? That is beyond asinine. If the people who designed the fucking building are not authoritative enough for you, who is? Convenient you bring in this little side narrative to discredit the statement, that's why I included statements from other experts above. Perhaps they are all lying to protect themselves? Also, if it was such a engineering failure, why have none of the building codes been modified to correct for them? Hmmm....



Sure, the offices, desks, carpet, drapes, plastic, all that stuff burns in offices will produce a 1000F fire.  Just like a regular wood fire.   It will do it every time, unless someone puts the fires out.

Except for the fact that all of these things are required to meet strict fire codes as all high rise building in NYC are in order to prevent these high temperatures. Even if they did create these temperatures, the fire still did not burn long enough to weaken the steel with isolated fires that would have wicked away the heat by conducting it thru the steel framework over such a short period. How does a short burning fire weaken structures 20-90 stories below? Answer: they don't.

52  Economy / Services / Looking for bilingual Japanese Paralegal (Japanese/English) on: June 10, 2016, 12:49:03 AM
I am looking for a bilingual Japanese paralegal that can also speak English to work for a percentage of recovered funds regarding the MTGOX closure. Basically a person I know deposited funds the day of the closure and they are refusing to honor it because it is not in their internal system, but it can be proven via bank transfer statements. The trustee handling the payments is requiring that some paperwork be submitted to the court in Japan with evidence of the deposit in order to claim the funds.

The amount in question is approximately $9200 to be recovered, and the client would like to pay via a percentage of the recovered funds on contingency of the recovery being successful. This should be fairly simple as the trustee is counting on the fact that most claimants will not make a claim because of the language barrier, and there is solid evidence of the deposit via bank records. Please private message me if you can provide this service or know of someone who can. I will not be checking here in this post often. Thank you.
53  Local / Other languages/locations / Looking for bilingual Japanese paralegal on: June 10, 2016, 12:47:00 AM
I am looking for a bilingual Japanese paralegal that can also speak English to work for a percentage of recovered funds regarding the MTGOX closure. Basically a person I know deposited funds the day of the closure and they are refusing to honor it because it is not in their internal system, but it can be proven via bank transfer statements. The trustee handling the payments is requiring that some paperwork be submitted to the court in Japan with evidence of the deposit in order to claim the funds.

The amount in question is approximately $9200 to be recovered, and the client would like to pay via a percentage of the recovered funds on contingency of the recovery being successful. This should be fairly simple as the trustee is counting on the fact that most claimants will not make a claim because of the language barrier, and there is solid evidence of the deposit via bank records. Please private message me if you can provide this service or know of someone who can. I will not be checking here in this post often. Thank you.
54  Economy / Goods / Re: WTB: Camel Turkish Golds or other American packs of Cigs with BTC CONUS on: June 06, 2016, 03:24:02 PM
Just FYI, it is a crime to ship tobacco products via USPS. Additionally you can get charged for interstate tobacco trafficking if you don't have the right tax stamp.  You might be better off buying smokes from overseas.
Correct thats why I said I am not liable for any of that as your not supposed to ship.

You might not be liable for shipping it, but you would be liable for possessing tobacco with an out of state tax stamp.
55  Economy / Goods / Re: help me buy something? on: June 05, 2016, 01:37:06 PM
i'm not a fan of escrow. that's 3 people involved when i could just be dealing with the seller directly. i would rather just send first to somebody with rep.

It is not any more risk than dealing with me directly...
56  Economy / Goods / Re: help me buy something? on: June 05, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
I am willing to escrow for free (as long as you cover the .001 withdraw fee). Let me know.
57  Economy / Goods / Re: help me buy something? on: June 05, 2016, 12:51:39 PM
What does the error actually say?
58  Economy / Goods / Re: help me buy something? on: June 05, 2016, 12:46:21 PM
Try clearing your cookies and turn off your VPN if you are using one. Might be worth it to try another browser if that doesn't work.
59  Economy / Goods / Re: WTB: Camel Turkish Golds or other American packs of Cigs with BTC CONUS on: June 05, 2016, 10:16:20 AM
Just FYI, it is a crime to ship tobacco products via USPS. Additionally you can get charged for interstate tobacco trafficking if you don't have the right tax stamp.  You might be better off buying smokes from overseas.
60  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 04, 2016, 03:23:23 PM

1- Explain how the seismic record supports YOUR argument. After all you were the first one to bring it up claiming it supported your argument. He who claims proves. Pointing this burden of proof back at me without explaining your own point is a logical fallacy.

2- Explain the precise mechanism that makes the force of gravity transfer laterally to throw 4 ton hunks of steel 600 feet sideways multiple times in every direction, as well as propel debris in an upward arc in violation of Newtons first law of motion by violating the forces of inertia and gravity.

3- Explain how two 110 story buildings fall at a rate of speed that demonstrates little to no resistance from thousands of supports designed with thousands of percent of redundancy thru the path of most resistance.

4- Explain how building 7, according to NIST itself fell at free fall speeds for over 2 seconds REQUIRING the synchronous removal of ALL support structures in those levels in order to be possible for any frame of time.

5- Explain who is offering this billion dollar payout for talking about the coordination of the attacks.

6- Explain how about 12 stories of a building was able to crush the other 98 stories completely to the ground without itself being destroyed, and how a similar effect could be repeated again in the other tower in violation of Newton's 3rd law of motion.

7- Explain how a hurricane is a "static load"

8- Explain how kerosene fires could weaken the steel structures enough to cause a complete collapse of both towers in spite of not being even capable of reaching sufficient temperatures to do this let alone long enough burn times to do so EVEN IF they did (which they didn't).

9- Explain how planes could impart sufficient kinetic energy to completely collapse the structures in spite of them being specifically designed to be able to withstand this exact scenario.

10- Explain how temperatures in the 800-1000 Kelvin range were created in the debris pile 5 days after the attack as measured by NASA satellites.


You demand accountability for my statements over and over again (which I have been providing) yet repeatedly gloss over and just ignore anything that does not confirm your own bias. Convenient you do not have to provide any evidence in response to these points. In your mind denial is evidence enough.









If evidence had indicated insurance fraud the insurance companies would have been seriously looking for it, and it's reasonable to think they would have found it.   The number of people that would have been involved and the huge amount of money the insurance companies would have paid to get one of them to sing.

Yes, they would be looking for a bullet in the head for themselves and their whole family as well.


You are thinking of a word, "resistance."   But you don't know whether that is 0.001% reduction in the speed of a building's fall or 20%.

Note Tecshare brought in what he thought was a valid point to refute the tower easily collapsing, that it was built to withstand 20x static load.  I simply showed that it experienced in excess of 120x load at the initial failure.  So his own logic REQUIRES THE BUILDING TO FAIL WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES.  And the same happens as soon as I plug in numbers into "resistance."  Your argument becomes an argument against your own position, dude.   Your problem, not mine.

But hey, go scurry off and watch a Michael Moore film on how the Evil Bush did it.  Then slither back all charged up and tell us about those Evil Jews.

Oh really? Too bad that 2000% over engineered metric was for JUST THE OUTER COLUMNS. The outer columns only supported about 40% of the total load. All you are capable of doing is twisting words any lying since you haven't a leg to stand on. Again, no matter how much weight the building could withstand, it still doesn't explain how your explanation VIOLATED NEWTONS 3RD LAW OF MOTION by having 12 floors destroy 98 floors without itself being destroyed. Your strategy is much like that of a customer service employee, waste their time until they are tired of having their time wasted and hang up. P.S. Michael Moore is a worthless sack of shit.





....

I noticed you are using an old numbered list to attempt to create even more confusion.....

If these questions are not settled, it isn't okay for you to just move on.  And they're not.  Don't worry, all of your ten questions can be easily debunked.

Now, what about that rather laughable "free fall speed?"  Let's hear where and how exactly you get to that conclusion?   Because it sure isn't obvious from the seismic record.  That shows relatively low levels for ten seconds, then fifteen seconds of heavy impacts.  Maybe you think stuff from the top of the building show impact first, then last of all stuff from the bottom? 

Come on, let's hear the Truther view.  Because I don't see how a calculation of "free fall time" using the absolute tip of the WTC has any relation to a collapse of the whole thing from the 78th floor.

Re run a couple of those old propaganda movies like Loose Change, and get yourself an answer and present it.


First of all, its very interesting that you are criticizing me for moving on without addressing questions as you do EXACTLY THAT. Second of all, I DID NO SUCH THING. I simply rearranged the former topics, so you can stick that right where you pull your answers from. You don't just get to declare something debunked and pretend like it has been addressed. Be a man and not a little crybaby bitch running away and lying when you get cornered, explain yourself like I have been doing over and over as you twist words and ignore the laws of physics.
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