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21  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: New member, new rig on: June 11, 2011, 12:17:40 PM
A little update. I have built the rig and am quite happy with it. The HAF X keeps my 4x5870 rather cool. I am running Linuxcoin from a USB flash drive. Haven't figured out persistence yet, but I have an old HDD so I might just do a Linux install.

The top card is the hottest, I guess due to a temperature gradient in the case. I created space between the card by inserting plastig wedges. Cards run at 900MHz GPU / 300MHz memory clocks, which gives me 370MHash/sec for each card.

I am running phoenix with VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=9 WORKSIZE=128 and the poclbm kernel. It took me a while to figure out that the parameter DEVICE:xx should be numbered 0,1,2,3, (4 for the CPU), while the AMD tool lists the active GPUs as 0,3,6,9.

Here are the numbers:

5870 #1:   78.5 oC
5870 #2:   74.0 oC
5870 #3:   70.0 oC
5870 #4:   63.5 oC

Ambient temp is 25 oC

Any suggestions how to crank it up further? AMDOverdriveCtrl maxes out at 900MHz. I think I could set the chassi fans to 100% in the BIOS to create extra airflow, but I am not unhappy with the numbers so far.
22  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Trying to calculate profitability - weird outcome on: June 10, 2011, 04:55:43 PM
Does it look anything like this?

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7427.msg184765#msg184765
23  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: I feel like I'm dreaming, is this crap for real? For how long? on: June 09, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
(except for criminals or people who want to make micropayments without fees)

Exactly that may turn out to be an important detail.
24  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MtGox: duration of Euro Bank Transfer on: June 09, 2011, 09:40:52 AM
Sent last sunday, arrived last tuesday. EUR. SEPA. No problems for me.
25  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: I feel like I'm dreaming, is this crap for real? For how long? on: June 09, 2011, 08:06:06 AM
But by mining you kind of buy insurance against a fall in bitcoin value, considering the (historically) strong correlation between price and difficulty (but of course: historic results...no guarantees....etc.)

26  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Quad Mining Rig, improvable? on: June 09, 2011, 07:49:48 AM

Use a Corsair PSU instead of Cooler Master. I have a silent pro gold 1200 and i'm not thrilled with it. I can't take it back so I'm stuck with it.


Why are you not thrilled with it if I may ask? I just ordered this PSU.
27  Economy / Economics / Re: Price vs Difficulty Charts - indicators for buying or mining on: June 08, 2011, 12:21:31 PM
I think these kind of data should be plotted logarithmically. I did a polynomal fit, exp may be better, but still it seems to fit nicely.

28  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: New member, new rig on: June 08, 2011, 12:09:14 PM
Yes, that sounds like a good suggestion!
29  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 5830s selling out - no more at Newegg on: June 08, 2011, 10:20:36 AM
I can't claim credit for the graph, but it was too helpful to not share.  Very clear how correlated price:difficulty is.



Indeed. I would like to see it on a log-log scale though. Anyone can do that?
30  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: ATI 5830 RIP, we barely new ye on: June 07, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
How much would they be -- how much is shipping, and what's the EUR/USD exchange rate?


amazon.de
amazon.co.uk

Exchange Rate

You would need a Freight forwarder like Borderlinx or AddressGermany.com, or a nice forum member of course Smiley
31  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: ATI 5830 RIP, we barely new ye on: June 07, 2011, 09:32:59 PM
It seems like the situation here in Europe is somewhat better regarding the 58xx cards. Plenty of them for sale where I live. Would anyone be interested in having them shipped overseas?
32  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: New member, new rig on: June 07, 2011, 09:27:29 PM


it will run about as hot as 10000 suns, just so you know.

Yeah, it was that part that I was afraid of. Well, I'll have to see how I can make it as cool as possible. I can place it in front of a window to give it fresh air. I reckoned in a well designed case it may work out quite ok. I believe I read another post from a member having a HAF X that he did not have any issue with high temps.

I think I will give Linux a go for a start, to avoid the dummy plugs and to get the most out of the cards. Is there a lot to win with overclocking?
33  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: New member, new rig on: June 07, 2011, 08:51:54 PM
Great! Thanks! I'll check them out.
34  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Would this quad GPU mining setup work? on: June 07, 2011, 08:44:47 PM
A) You cannot put an AMD CPU with an Intel socket. Moreover, that mobo is socket 1155, so the cheapest CPU you could get with that would be the i3-1200. $99 from Microcenter, or $125 from newegg.
B) That motherboard only has 2 PCI 2.0x16 slots, so you could only have 4 GPUs in there unless you buy some adaptors
C) A 750W power supply is nowhere near enough for 4 GPUs. Maybe 2.

I was assuming that his properly stocked garage included a dremel and a soldering iron... add in a pizza box and some duct tape, and you can make anything fit!

Considering his username at least he wont need EMI shielding Wink
35  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: New member, new rig on: June 07, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
Depends on if you are a GUI guy or not.

Typically it is much easier to overclock and volt on windows, plus you could use Guiminer or Phoenix GUI to get started quickly.

If you prefer linux.. go for it, though I don't have any experience with linuxcoin personally.

Thanks, had not really thought about it that way. I have a win7 licence that I could use, what overclocking software would you recommend (so I can search more efficiently for it on the forum)?

@Reikoku. Yes, good point. The mobo does not have a GPU on board, if that is of any relevance.

@Freakin. Right, thanks. At what times would you have to plug in monitors, only during card setup/initialization or al the time?

@Bitbitcoincoin. The HAF X has 8 expansion slots. One of the reasons I chose it.
36  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Best setup for 6GPU on 2 rigs? on: June 07, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
Hi Everyone, I've been reading the posts and thanks for the great info, I'm ready to get started on my build over the next few days as the parts start to arrive.  My root question is whether to setup 1 rig with 4x 5870s and another rig with 2x 6990s or to create 2 boxes with 3x GPUs each...  Here are the main parts on order:

4x VisionTek ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity 6 2 GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card 900322
2x AMD Radeon HD 6990 (These are due to arrive in 2 weeks)
2x MSI AM3 USB 3.0 + SATA 6Gb/s AMD 890FX Chipset Motherboard 890FXA-GD70
2x Corsair Professional Series Gold High Performance 1200-Watt Power Supply CMPSU-1200AX
2x Corsair Vengeance Blu 8 GB PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
2x AMD Sempron 140, Socket AM3, 2.7 GHz, 1 MB Cache, 45 Watts (I may buy fancier procs in case I ever want to repurpose these)

I'll use Ubantu on a USB stick instead of a hard drive and I'm hoping for advice for the specific cables I'll need as I think that is dependent on the rig setup decision.  I think my preference is to pack one rig with 4x 5870s and then run the second rig with 2x 6990s so that I have room to expand on that board.  Any thoughts?

A very similar setup to mine. I am going for a 4x5870, same mobo, same cpu, similar PSU. I just wonder why you want to have 8GB ? As I understand, 2GB is more than enough.

I would personally go for 4 x 5870 and 2x 6990 as it would be a good balance in terms of wattage, and, well it just seems to make sense Smiley.

37  Bitcoin / Mining / New member, new rig on: June 07, 2011, 08:29:57 PM
Hi guys!

Just wanted to thank you first for this incredible forum. Lots and lots of info and generally good spirit and a lot of brains. I find bitcoin fascinating stuff and after reading for a few days I decided to join the party, realizing that I am a latecomer.

My plan is to bet on two horses: buying and mining, so I have invested equal amounts in bitcoins and equipment. There are many arguments for and against, and it can turn out good or bad. But anyway, I don't really miss the money and the main reason for putting time, money and effort in this is that I see it as a learning opportunity. See if I can manage putting a rig together, configuring a linux system, joining a pool, etc. But also trying to understand the basics of cryptography, OpenCL, etc. It doesn't seem like rocket science (well, except for the cryptography and OpenCL Smiley), and as I said, this forum is awesome in case of problems.

So, this is the stuff that is arriving tomorrow:

4 x XFX 5870
MSI 890FXA-GD70
AMD Sempron 140
2GB DDR3
8GB USB Flash
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200W
Cooler Master HAF X

I read a lot about 5830/5850 having the best value for money, but I figured the 5870 is very valuable as well at 150GBP and may yield close to 1.6GHash/s in a single rig, if I can keep it cool enough.

Reason to buy a case is that I need it to be tidy, I just don't like the idea of having loose components lying around. The HAF X actually has great looks so could not really withstand it Smiley. The motherboard has been praised by many and I can see why, with the slot spacing.

I do not really have high expectations about this mining being very profitable for me, but at least it feels good to have the hardware. At least, I can let it work for me at times during which it is profitable. I can always get rid of it and I would have had a good time tinkering with it.

I have not been focusing at all on how to setup the software. Is LinuxCoin the easiest to start out with?
Neither have I got any overclocking-experience. I think I'll save that part for later...
I am curious about the noise and heat this is going to generate. I have a separate space for the machine but it gets hot in here during the summer....

Any advice on the 4x5870 setup,  the mining software, etc, is welcome! I might come back with specific questions when I run into them.

I will also try to help out others, despite the very limited knowledge I have at this point!
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