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201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
I consider that a success, this "idiot" whom wasn't worth his "time" had to be ignored in order for him to live by what he said. I guess that's one way to do it.

now let's start the replying to the "others in the thread" about blank and pretend like we aren't actually directly talking to eachother. I love this part! :p
202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 06:14:21 PM
^ yes, then you will be able to control everything, won't it be great? Hell, you can even remove any reply to the thread so it's just nothing but yourself just how you like it buddy! It's like xmas for a sociopath.

I think it is YOU that's learning that you should stop replying to "idiots" that "aren't worth your time". You are nearly living by the words you preach brethren.
203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 06:06:14 PM
Ok that's great. Why are you so invested in proving it to me though?

I just having fun REKTing your illogic and making fun of you, because you deserve it for being an asshurl.

Ego? More on $millions and teaching at the same time. I am even teaching you. You'll appreciate it one day.

and I think that you are counting your eggs before they hatch.

Uh oh, another metaphor. Don't think too hard now. Wink

Maybe you are finally learning. So when are you going to STFU?

Btw, I had some worthwhile discussions with others in this thread and other threads. Which you've managed to totally bury with your shit-talking.

I agree with you, you are a shit-talking noise maker.

I don't know if you noted that I wrote I won't be creating any more unmoderated threads. That means in the future, all your shit talking will go poof. And I won't need to reply to it.

Are you done?

Yes, please do create that self-moderated thread. We all know you only like hearing yourself talk anyways lmao, it will be perfect for you.

I'll never be done, this is the bitcoin forums.  As long as spoetnik is here, I will be too.
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 06:02:11 PM
lol Yes definitely, two super wits going at it like superman and batman, who will win? Will it be BITWHALE the ultra-king of shit-talk that utilizes metaphors and sarcasm to completely annihilate his opponents mental capacity and language aptitude...

 or will it be IAMNOTBACK, who is clearly back, that is the super great multi-millionaire altcoin creator spectacular that has the witts of Satoshi & the morals of Jesus coming to save us from the "horror" at which we find ourselves. The king of inflated egos has returned, or has he? You act very very powerful for someone that still hasn't even completed his altcoin. You don't think that's a bit premature to act like you've already made it to the big leagues??

Tune in next week for the cock sword fight at Satoshi gladitorial ring. It will be a fight to the mental death.

That sir, is how you make fun of someone.

What you've done above is just laughable childs play that makes me smile inside to think that I actually get to respond to that shit lmao.
205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 05:56:31 PM
Ok that's great. Why are you so invested in proving it to me though?

If i'm such an "Idiot" that you can't spend your "time" on, WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING TO ME?

Why not just accept as personal belief and move on? Is the recognition what you are after or what?

WHAT IS YOUR GOAL buddy?

"Your audience" lmao. YOu just answered my own question. You are in this for your own ego.

Your altcoin is just another dime in a bag of dozen my friend lol, sorry to shit on your parade.
206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 05:51:01 PM
I never accused you of being him. Don't try that game lol. I meant that this whole fucking thread is a inflammatory circle jerk, I just joined the party, I never said that you were him. Is English even your first language? I'm starting to wonder now lol.

I never said I personally wanted a profitable business opportunity, (lol what?Huh) I said that calling people idiots for not believing in your circumstantial evidence and being so emotionally invested that you are rude to any skeptic on the thread over something YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE is a fruitless endeavor.

Sorry that you didn't get the metaphor lol. I thought you'd be able to grasp it.
207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 05:43:23 PM
Na, all i did was tie together the last 5 pages of "you didn't read my material you are an idiot" lmao. It's me that's the one that's being inflammatory and not being useful? lol really?Huh?

My addition to this thread was to open your eyes that all us idiots aren't idiots, we just don't see it the same way as you.

We are taking in the SAME INFORMATION as you, but we are not coming to the SAME CONCLUSIONS as you.

If i can add anything to this thread, it's that just because you have circumstantial evidence that proves nothing doesn't mean that someone like me is an idiot for not believing in it.

Come on, I'm not impressed with this at all. Go program or something. Accept this as personal belief and move on with your life. Admit that this thread is for nothing more than inflating TrainCarWrecks ego, as shown below:

lol.. dang this trainwreck cant see passed his own nose.

he thinks he has found something big, but doesnt realise that he is like a few years out of date in all his research..
people have already supplied far more stuff than trainwreck has and this john nash ploy of his is not original.

seems he needs to be the one that does more research
I am the only person that has done research and provided it to the community on the subject of Nash Ideal Money and its relation to bitcoin, dumbass.  Everyone.  Look at this idiot, talking about someone they know nothing about.


I spared you the full five pages, you need something more to do with your time anyways and enjoy research so I'll leave that part up to you.

Let's just all admit right now that the point of this thread was for TrainCarsWreck to be named as "the man who tied John Nash to Satoshi" instead of just simply trying to tie John Nash to Satoshi. This is a fame game, and i'm here to rain on your parade.

Shouldn't you be doing something useful like "killing bitcoin"? still waiting for that one lol..
208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 10, 2017, 05:19:39 PM

Lol this guy, TRAIN: stop with the personal attacks. Its absolute insanity to think that all the people here have not read the material and have each come to the same conclusion.

If 30 people are telling you that your evidence is circumstancial at best and proves nothing

Thirty idiots who can't assimilate detailed technological research are basically just noise.

I have already explained that Nash was obviously (but likely unwittingly) involved and explained why.

Idiots are not worth my time.

Then why don't you accept it as personal belief and move on with your life? You sit there and say that "idiots aren't worth my time" but then you continue to respond to all of the "idiots" posting in this thread. Does that sound logical? You say one thing, but your actions say another.

Why are you sitting here trying to make an "idiot" like myself, or for that matter any of the other 1000 idiots here, believe in something that you can 100% never prove. Does that sound like a profitable business opportunity to you?

You're supposedly smart, what's the end goal here? You can never prove it, so what's the point of this fight? If being a skeptic makes me an idiot, then I am 100% full heartedly an idiot. Why? because your evidence is circumstantial at best and proves nothing. I'm sorry, you calling me an idiot doesn't change a thing, it only makes you look like a closed minded ass hole lol.

At the end of the day, you are just another tech nerd with a story, emotionally invested in making lil ole me believe you. What's the ulterior motive?

I can 100% promise you that you are WASTING YOUR TIME, is it the skeptic or the person believing in evidence that's completely circumstantial and can be repeated for many of the other Satoshi candidates that's the idiot? lol.
209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: April 09, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Lol this guy, TRAIN: stop with the personal attacks. Its absolute insanity to think that all the people here have not read the material and have each come to the same conclusion.

If 30 people are telling you that your evidence is circumstancial at best and proves nothing, it doesn't mean we don't know the english language, it doesn't mean we don't see the clues you are trying to tie into, or that we're idiots that haven't read your material. It means that we are taking in the SAME INFORMATION that you are, but we are not coming to the SAME CONCLUSIONS as you. I'm sorry dude, but I think it is YOU that is being the close minded retard at the moment.

Why are you so emotionally invested in this? You think that makes us want to listen to you?

It makes me laugh at every comment you say because you literally say the same shit over and over about how no one is reading the material, despite the fact that people are literally quoting text from said material.

You might THINK you got Satoshi pegged, but so does 100 other people. That's the thing about circumstantial evidence, it's circumstancial... lol.

Stop being such a whiney lil douche. You will never prove whom Satoshi is unless you can get a Satoshi sig on a relevant block, and because of this, no one will ever give you the recognition you oh-so-desperately desire, no matter how EARTH SHATTERING (that's debatable) your circumstancial evidence is.

Sure Nash does look like a great candidate, fuckin' prove it though, idiot lol you never will.

You might as well be looking for big foot and calling anyone that is a skeptic an idiot. Is it the skeptic or the person whose spending his precious time searching for big foot thats the idiot, hmm?


Until you can prove it (which is an impossible task), you are just as big of an "idiot" as anyone that is skeptical about this because you are full heartedly believing in circumstantial evidence (evidence that would be thrown out so quickly in court its not even funny) which is completely unproven and honestly pretty fringe-theory at best.

Sorry to rain on your ego parade.
210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Jihan Wu's response to GMaxwell's ASICBOOST allegations on: April 07, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
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211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Made a HUGEEE investment in *insert coin name here* on: March 06, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
Is anyone else tired of seeing these threads? It's fairly obvious to me that a group of bad actors is currently creating noob accounts for the soul purpose of posting threads about how much Dash they've bought and how much profit they are going to make... first Darkcoin, then Ethereum, then Monero, then Dash, I'm sure i'm missing many more insignificant shit coins.

Threads like this add no value because not much "discussion" is actually going on in these threads, it's just a blatant "I wrote this not to hear your opinion, but to let you know/brag that I bought x amount of coins and have now made x amount of profit".

Why not make a rule where if you post about a coin you should at least have a reason for the threads existence in the first place... beyond trying to manipulate public opinion in one direction or the other.

This also would inevitably include the following:

RIP *insert coin name here* it's 100% over this time
Guys, *insert coin name here* is headed to the moon, it's official
Looks like the *insert coin name here* party is over.
It's official, today I sold all of my *insert coin name here* and have now bought *insert name here* Thanks *insert rando developers name*

etc etc etc

if you got a question ask it, but let's be less manipulative/dramatic about it :p Let's make it a lil harder for the bad actors to get everyone's attention eh?

Easy solution = make threads like this only allowed in the speculation section, because at the end of the day that's really all it is, someone supposedly speculating on the price rising.

The soul intention of posting threads like what is written above is to make others think they are about to "miss the boat" when in reality they missed the boat months ago...

That's all. Have a nice night ladies.
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Heavy invesment in Dash close to 2000 coins on: March 06, 2017, 09:07:18 PM
this is oddly reminiscent of the "I Love Dash" account's thread that was removed for basically shilling.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Altcoin Traders Wanted] Starting a private Slack channel for traders on: February 16, 2017, 04:21:00 AM
I personally would love a private trollbox.
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BUCKS] 💰SwagBucks💰| POS 3.0 |No IPO & Premine|Get Paid To Post| on: February 16, 2017, 04:16:19 AM
Thanks for the response I appreciate it, that's good to know. I use SB on a daily basis so when I saw that I was like HOLY CRAP SB took the leap and went into cryptos.

I am definitely intrigued that I can allow videos to play all day to earn points and then utilize said points to purchase SwagBucks, which is nearly identical to other pay2watch/click sites. That's something any device can do, no asics needed. This will be nice for the people (like myself) who want some SB but don't want to actually pay for it haha. Good for us noobs.
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BUCKS] 💰SwagBucks💰| POS 3.0 |No IPO & Premine|Get Paid To Post| on: February 16, 2017, 12:24:20 AM
Are you affiliated with Swagbucks.com in any way? They do the same stuff, offer walls, ads, videos, surveys etc. Just a lil worried they will come after you for the name, but otherwise I am definitely going to try out your platform.
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Suggest me the best ICO to invest. on: January 25, 2017, 12:33:04 AM
You might as well just blow it on something fun, at least you will get some enjoyment out of it. ICO's are a dime a dozen around here If you invested in every single one the few who did take off would never offset the amount of shitty failed ico coins that have lost their investors 90% of everything invested more often than not. The odds of you picking the 5% of winners out of the 95% of shitters is going to be your biggest issue. Especially with all the shilling and knob-polishing cliques engage in around here, you can never actually be sure you are hearing what you are actually hearing.

I'd rather waste my money at a casino, at least I get free drinks.

And let's face the facts guys, most of the ico's are cookie cutter coins that have small changes to their original code. Rarely are any of these coins truly innovative in any sort of meaningful way.

Maybe that's the ticket guys, offer free drinks with every ico investment. You heard it here first.

If you want to profit from new coins, wait till they launch, wait till the hype settles and the coin goes for it's first drop (always happens pretty much) and then watch for it to stabilize at a certain price for over a week or longer (preferrably a month or two) than starts to rise with heavy volume.  This allows the community to do the testing and assume the risk for you. Your goal as a trader should be to gain an advantage over human psycology by using it in your favor. Allow your eager peers to risk their money for you and sit back and wait until you see the proper set ups before you put money on the table.

This gives you a clear entry & exit (if it breaks below the accumulation stage where it stayed stable for a week to month, you exit your trade). This is the only way you can truly have any sort of defined risk/reward strategy other than saying "I'm going to invest 10% into 10 coins and hope for the best". Think of it as a shit filter.
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin intelligence thread (THE DIA) on: January 21, 2017, 08:49:16 PM
lol Doesn't an intel community have to have intelligence first? Tongue <3
218  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: shorting help on bitfinex [paying] on: January 12, 2017, 10:33:19 AM
Such a good explanation, Bitwhale. I had exactly the same doubt and want to answer you one little things more.
As you are borrowing these 2 BTC, if you donīt do this margin sell with some leverage even the price of BTC goes down, you dont win anything, is this correct..?

When you say, you borrow 2 BTC, is something you do in the "Exchange" wallet takin these 2 BTC to a lender with a rate fee that he puts or 2 BTC borrow to you the broker..?

The same question I have for buying BTC/USD. If I fund the account in USD and I donīt have any bitcoin, If I want to buy the BTC/USD, have to borrow BTC too. In this case, the return you receive if you win is in USD.

Sorry for the silly question, but In Forex markets I donīt have to borrow anything for trading different currencies and this have me so confused. Thanks in advance.


Hey dude I'm very sorry I'm late on this response, It completely slipped my mind to check btc forums for the last week.

Ok, sorry that might've been a bit confusing the way I explained it.

First let's dicuss a currency pair. A currency pair is two currencies traded against eachother. You will see this in forex as well, such as EUR/USD or GBP/USD. What this means is it is the first currency priced in the second "base" currency.

This idea is to trade one countries currency that you think will do better than another countries currency.

The best way I can explain this is: Back when the US put sanctions on Russia, it was much more profitable to trade BTC/RUR instead of BTC/USD. You didn't have to have Russian Rubles to make this trade though, you were merely trading one countries currency against anothers, your broker will worry about actually funding the trade properly for you.

Example 1: Bitcoin/USD

For 1 bitcoin right now, it costs *blank* united states dollars

Example 2: Bitcoin/GBP

for 1 bitcoin right now, it costs *blank* great brittish pounds

For most brokers, it doesn't matter what you funded your account with (btc, usd, gbp), you can trade any pair you want, you'd just be trading gbp/btc instead of usd/btc which might mean different rising or different returns. At the end of the day though, the trade will be settled in USD, or what ever else your account was funded with.

As for the borrowing: When you are on margin trading, it will all be automatic.

Say for instance you want to short 1 btc @ 2 leverage, you would place a trade for 2 btc margin sell. When you do this, the exchange automatically pairs you with a lender who you then pay interest to. At any point you/the lender can trade their bitcoin off, there's no time limit to it, if say your lender traded off your btc while you are still in a trade, they will just exchange your borrowed btc loan to some other lender.

Once you are ready to close the trade, you trade 2 btc "margin buy" which canceled out the 2 btc margin sell you made earlier and closes out your trade.

All you gotta do to margin trade is fund your account and always make sure to leave enough funds in there to cover any dips in price you might deal with. The best way to explain this is:

Say you have a $1000 account and you are using (for ease of math) 1/10 leverage. This means for every $1 in your account, you are allowed to trade with $10.

Now for example, say you place a trade for a coin worth $5 and put 50% of your account into a that single coin @ 10 leverage, this will leave you with 50% invested in one coin & 50% sitting in your account in cash.

50% of $1000 = $500.
$500 * 10 leverage = $5000
%5000 / $5 per coin = $1000 coins.

You bought 1000 coins for $5000 dollars and you only put up $500 up front. Now let's do some more math.

Let's say tomorrow, the stock goes down 10% to $4.50, a $0.50 decrease:

$4.50 x 1000 coins = $4500

$4500 - $5000 = -$500

So, all your coin had to do was drop $0.50 cents (10%) and you have lost 50% of your account value and now you have no money left in your account other than the $500 you put up to borrow the $5000 worth of coins for the trade.

At this point, you will be what is called "margin called", this is when your broker protects the person who lent you the coins by closing your trade and returning the borrowed coins to the lender. This forces you to close your trade at +50% loss (most the time it's much worse because it's a force sale during a market panic, possibly even a short/long squeeze). This is the only way they can lend you money to trade with, they ensure that only you lose money at the end of the day while protecting the lender bankroll at all costs (and even that doesn't work sometimes, aka flash crashes)

This is why it's very important to never trade more than 10% of your account in a single trade with leverage, it's just asking for trouble. With Forex, I trade 1:50 leverage & only risk 1.5% of my account at a time. This way as my account balance rises & falls, my trade amounts rise & fall with it, ensuring that I'm never too exposed to a single trade.

Please feel free to let me know what else I can explain, I am terribly sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Hope you are well!
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero, Dash, or Zcash? Let's argue about it. on: January 02, 2017, 06:19:29 AM
Cloak's low price, low supply, and amazing tech makes me believe it is the best coin to INVEST in. It is so low in price and has the potential to be the price of $4 or $5. It wouldn't hurt to put a small investment. The potential return is too good.

BLG, sorry man, I didn't mean to not respond, I tried to find Cloak last night (I was rather tired) and wasn't able to find the ANN. I will go hunting now once again. I'm interested in all of these coins that has these features, as long as they bring something new to the table. That's why I mentioned BlackBytes, not sure how it stands up to scrutiny, I am not as technically minded as some of you lovely folk. I would love to have that knowledge though...
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero, Dash, or Zcash? Let's argue about it. on: January 02, 2017, 06:10:33 AM
That's honestly not far off of how I planned on investing into them later down the road.

Say my confidence is 45% monero 35% z cash 20% dash, split the total amount I'm looking to invest into anons by this amount and buy accordingly.

I just wanted to know which had the best features. Spotniek killed it lol. Everyone has an opinion, it's very hard to surmise fact from them. I'm leaning Monero though, with Zcash in second and Dash a distant 3rd. Each 3 of these coins had some form of distribution scandal, so imo Monero is the most trustable (I can't trust Zcash that some hacker can't make millions of coins out of thin air, and this bugs me, I can't put money into something like that very willingly).

Secondly, when it comes to the actual features of the coin, I wanted to know which system held up to the most scrutiny. Which one of these will stand the test of time, regardless of the amount of attackers trying to circumvent it.

If RingQT is the best, I want to know why, eli5. <3
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