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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: December 26, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
Check out Cashi's trust.  LOL

He has been called out as a scammer by over 15 different people.  LMAO.  Grin

No wonder he has supported this IRM scam.   Cheesy Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1973300

2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: December 26, 2018, 06:56:56 AM
Check out Cashi's trust.  LOL

He has been called out as a scammer by over 15 different people.  LMAO.  Grin

No wonder he has supported this IRM scam.   Cheesy Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1973300

3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BTCP] BitcoinPrivate: A Truly Private Bitcoin [Equihash] on: December 26, 2018, 06:44:55 AM
Too bad it always reads Rat to me.
The Dev's are the Rats in this debacle they are either complicit or did not do their due diligence.  Either way they own this fuck up and theft.

Can one of you DT members please paint the Dev in RED for this?

4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: December 26, 2018, 06:43:03 AM
IRM always delievers. It's hard for your to realize it, but it's just true. Sorry if it hurts  Roll Eyes

I like IRM doing these changes because it's more profitable to do it like this.....blah blah blah.

 Cheesy  You fucken idiot I did once support them until I realized they are a complete scam, and even since I sold out they have told more and more lies to their investors.

Are you that fucken dumb that you believe them or your a sock puppet account?

You do not have very good English and obviously a low IQ so that qualifies you to be part of the IRM team.   Grin

But please do tell me how telling lies on the website, on the whitepaper, changing the payment methods and investors are recieving around $1.30 per Month for every thousand coins they own?

How is that a good thing?

Cannot wait for Dias to set foot in the U.S.A he will be in Handcuffs within minutes. 

Hey Dias, you know several of us have reported you to the SEC right?  Just sayin if you do visit the U.S make sure you bring your toothbrush and some loob, you going to need it.   Cheesy
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: December 26, 2018, 06:42:46 AM
@Cashi

Soooo.

Allways delivers you say ?
 
How many miners are up 2000 now ? how long after ICO ended ?

More profitable you say ?

Ice cave ready to go no cooling needed  / old building needing to be renovated and cooled ? that doesnt really sound more profitable.

Everyone is a sockpuppet ?

Well everyone that comes in here or on Telegram posting how wonderfull their Roi is and what a wonderfull job IRM is doing is either a complete moron and or has no idea how to do math Or yes a sockpuppet.

IRM is one of the 5% good ICO's really based of what exactly  Not on the Roi or based on the number of people they ban of their telegram  So they are a good ICO because they returned what less then 1% of their investors money right now in roi ?

Cali was a supporter of IRM untill he woke up to reality , you should try it.

 





He is probably Dias's boyfriend.  Take it easy on him.   Cheesy
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: December 26, 2018, 06:42:03 AM
IRM always delievers. It's hard for your to realize it, but it's just true. Sorry if it hurts  Roll Eyes

I like IRM doing these changes because it's more profitable to do it like this.....blah blah blah.

 Cheesy  You fucken idiot I did once support them until I realized they are a complete scam, and even since I sold out they have told more and more lies to their investors.

Are you that fucken dumb that you believe them or your a sock puppet account?

You do not have very good English and obviously a low IQ so that qualifies you to be part of the IRM team.   Grin

But please do tell me how telling lies on the website, on the whitepaper, changing the payment methods and investors are recieving around $1.30 per Month for every thousand coins they own?

How is that a good thing?

Cannot wait for Dias to set foot in the U.S.A he will be in Handcuffs within minutes. 

Hey Dias, you know several of us have reported you to the SEC right?  Just sayin if you do visit the U.S make sure you bring your toothbrush and some loob, you going to need it.   Cheesy

7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: December 25, 2018, 12:50:23 AM
Reply here shadi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3139632.40

This *cough honest ICO deletes most messages on this ANN thread, to control the truth.

Another sign of how criminal they are.  That is why there is a scam thread, this actual thread should be 150 pages long by now but honest Dias (lol) likes to control information flow.

And that dammed truth thing really get's on his nerves.   Cheesy
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: December 25, 2018, 12:48:09 AM
Are you even checking their channels? IRM is providing important news immediately, I don't know any other company doing this like IRM.

Cashi the ICO expert. 


A detailed analysis of ICOs is very difficult and the overall bearish market is another factor for the success of an ICO. I don't know if it's the best time to invest in an ICO.
You do not know very much at all it seems.
Personally, I think, the most important thing is a research about the team, it's characters, amount of people for this project, qualifications, experieces and previous actions. This is very important and for doing this you can use google or social websites to get more informations about this team.
Another one ist the project. Read website and whitepaper and ask yourself if the solution offered by this ICO would be neccesary or is it another copy of existing projects. The market for ICOs is very hard now and you need a good idea to exist.
So given that IRM has done the following which totally goes against their whitepaper:
No longer mining in a cave (major selling point was cooling)
Not paying out investors in ETH (as was written in whitepaper)
Commencing contract mining (Again not written in whitepaper)
Lied to everyone about their earnings calculations and were not transparent about the fact that the calculator was set for a 12k BTC price  (on ICO website)
Ban anyone who dares to question anything in the Telegram
Are several months behind scheduale
The list goes on and on.....



How does that then sit for you with your expert ICO eyes?


After all ask questions in the telegram or via mail if you have concerns. A honest team will answer them.
And IRM bans people for asking legitimate questions all of the time, I have seen it happen about 40 times personally.  So now you are supporting a shady company that does that?

Are you a Dias sockpuppet too?   Grin

It's no secret some are involved in shady businesses getting better places for projects if they pay...

You are supporting a shady ICO or post ICO project here, where are you morals now? 

You are full of shit.   Wink
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: December 25, 2018, 12:47:33 AM
Are you even checking their channels? IRM is providing important news immediately, I don't know any other company doing this like IRM.

Cashi the ICO expert. 


A detailed analysis of ICOs is very difficult and the overall bearish market is another factor for the success of an ICO. I don't know if it's the best time to invest in an ICO.
You do not know very much at all it seems.
Personally, I think, the most important thing is a research about the team, it's characters, amount of people for this project, qualifications, experieces and previous actions. This is very important and for doing this you can use google or social websites to get more informations about this team.
Another one ist the project. Read website and whitepaper and ask yourself if the solution offered by this ICO would be neccesary or is it another copy of existing projects. The market for ICOs is very hard now and you need a good idea to exist.
So given that IRM has done the following which totally goes against their whitepaper:
No longer mining in a cave (major selling point was cooling)
Not paying out investors in ETH (as was written in whitepaper)
Commencing contract mining (Again not written in whitepaper)
Lied to everyone about their earnings calculations and were not transparent about the fact that the calculator was set for a 12k BTC price  (on ICO website)
Ban anyone who dares to question anything in the Telegram
Are several months behind scheduale
The list goes on and on.....



How does that then sit for you with your expert ICO eyes?


After all ask questions in the telegram or via mail if you have concerns. A honest team will answer them.
And IRM bans people for asking legitimate questions all of the time, I have seen it happen about 40 times personally.  So now you are supporting a shady company that does that?

Are you a Dias sockpuppet too?   Grin

It's no secret some are involved in shady businesses getting better places for projects if they pay...

You are supporting a shady ICO or post ICO project here, where are you morals now? 

You are full of shit.   Wink
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: December 25, 2018, 12:32:30 AM
Rock2 token price went from 0.17 to 0.27 within a few days recently (~59% increase), probably due to the current BTC pump. I have noticed when BTC pumps Rock2 pumps even more.

Hopefully this will continue. 2000 miners are up and running for next payout end of this month. Hold your Rock2 tokens in your own wallet guys.

I think we hit the BTC bottom. Only up from now I think.

You do realize that IRM want the token to tank so they can buy more with the ETH from ICO then they are paid more dividends from mining, if the opposite happens and the token rises in price they just sell for a profit while still keeping the majority of mined BTC.

Either way they cannot lose, the only people using and the fools who think they will see a return on investment. 

I laughed the other day as I watched another one get banned after a command by PeterK/Dias. 

Seriously Dias you have the intellect to publicly scam people but when it comes to operating a sock puppet account on Telegram you are not very good, your English is the same and the way the lapdog moderators jump at every command/suggestion/request by PeterK makes it more than obvious.

It is actually laughable. 


Also you should know you have been reported to the SEC so be careful if you ever want to visit the U.S there is an active investigation into your ICO and American participants. 



Sweet dreams scammers.   Grin
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: December 25, 2018, 12:30:22 AM
Rock2 token price went from 0.17 to 0.27 within a few days recently (~59% increase), probably due to the current BTC pump. I have noticed when BTC pumps Rock2 pumps even more.

Hopefully this will continue. 2000 miners are up and running for next payout end of this month. Hold your Rock2 tokens in your own wallet guys.

I think we hit the BTC bottom. Only up from now I think.

You do realize that IRM want the token to tank so they can buy more with the ETH from ICO then they are paid more dividends from mining, if the opposite happens and the token rises in price they just sell for a profit while still keeping the majority of mined BTC.

Either way they cannot lose, the only people using and the fools who think they will see a return on investment. 

I laughed the other day as I watched another one get banned after a command by PeterK/Dias. 

Seriously Dias you have the intellect to publicly scam people but when it comes to operating a sock puppet account on Telegram you are not very good, your English is the same and the way the lapdog moderators jump at every command/suggestion/request by PeterK makes it more than obvious.

It is actually laughable. 


Also you should know you have been reported to the SEC so be careful if you ever want to visit the U.S there is an active investigation into your ICO and American participants. 



Sweet dreams scammers.   Grin

12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BTCP] BitcoinPrivate: A Truly Private Bitcoin [Equihash] on: December 25, 2018, 12:23:20 AM
https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/1077230753212055552

That's insane statement why they would take so long time to clear doubts of community potentially it could bring disaster and price would collapse. Maybe they are waiting for this kind of moment and these allegations of premine becoming reality.

Would not surprise me to hear that the Developer's themselves were behind this and they have just been caught out. 

They probably had that canned response sitting and waiting for the time if and when they ever got found out.

This token can no longer be trusted nor can any fork of it.   


I bet they made a lot of money on selling many of the secret 2M coins by drip feeding them into exchanges. 
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: November 06, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Sluppy you have Legendary status can you paint Dias in Red please?

Ognasty has and so have I but it needs more to show how much of a scammer this group of Borat's are.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: November 06, 2018, 09:17:09 PM
Did anyone get paid today for their tokens and if so how much ?


They paid them today.  A whopping $1.40 per 1000 tokens.   Cheesy Cheesy

There are people dumping, which is what IRM want, then they will buy back their own tokens using ICO money and eventually there will be around a 80% IRM 20% actuall investor ratio.

Best scam ever seen this one, because they are slow scamming. 

Their whole project has been a lie from the beginning. 

Dias (posting as PeterK) is becoming unhinged on the chat and cannot help but speak like an admin even though he is pretending not to be.  Cheesy

As soon as anyone says anything remotely negative PeterK (Dias) is flagging admins and they all suck up to him, it is so obvious it is laughable.

You really should join their Telegram if you want a good laugh.  They have about 3 or 4 main alt accounts that lick the IRM boots and any normal regular investors who ask something they instantly become suspicious. 

It is a laugh actually, it is like Borat meets Crypto.   Cheesy


They are still paying out in their own shit token rather than ETH as promised in Whitepaper. 
They have still not created a proper dashboard or displayed any outgoing costs or their total mined amount each month.
They are still not using the cave (They never intended to this was a scam from the beginning)
They refuse to answer questions about the "free" building they were given (LOL)


On a serious note apart from the obvious lies, any genuine investors out there ask yourself this, if they are really on the up and honest, why does Dias delete every post in the main forum?
Because he does not want you to know the truth. 

Finally regarding their Telegram it has reached a pathetic state where anyone with a genuine question (That could be seen as negative) like for example "What if the power company takes back the free building?" or "What if xxx scenario happens?" they need to add at the end of the question a caveat saying something along the lines of "I trust and believe in IRM" or "IRM to the Moon" so they are not kicked or banned.  It really is pathetic. 


Dias before you delete this, little message for you - SCAMMERS GO TO HELL
15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: November 06, 2018, 09:16:29 PM
Did anyone get paid today for their tokens and if so how much ?


They paid them today.  A whopping $1.40 per 1000 tokens.   Cheesy Cheesy

There are people dumping, which is what IRM want, then they will buy back their own tokens using ICO money and eventually there will be around a 80% IRM 20% actuall investor ratio.

Best scam ever seen this one, because they are slow scamming. 

Their whole project has been a lie from the beginning. 

Dias (posting as PeterK) is becoming unhinged on the chat and cannot help but speak like an admin even though he is pretending not to be.  Cheesy

As soon as anyone says anything remotely negative PeterK (Dias) is flagging admins and they all suck up to him, it is so obvious it is laughable.

You really should join their Telegram if you want a good laugh.  They have about 3 or 4 main alt accounts that lick the IRM boots and any normal regular investors who ask something they instantly become suspicious. 

It is a laugh actually, it is like Borat meets Crypto.   Cheesy


They are still paying out in their own shit token rather than ETH as promised in Whitepaper. 
They have still not created a proper dashboard or displayed any outgoing costs or their total mined amount each month.
They are still not using the cave (They never intended to this was a scam from the beginning)
They refuse to answer questions about the "free" building they were given (LOL)


On a serious note apart from the obvious lies, any genuine investors out there ask yourself this, if they are really on the up and honest, why does Dias delete every post in the main forum?
Because he does not want you to know the truth. 

Finally regarding their Telegram it has reached a pathetic state where anyone with a genuine question (That could be seen as negative) like for example "What if the power company takes back the free building?" or "What if xxx scenario happens?" they need to add at the end of the question a caveat saying something along the lines of "I trust and believe in IRM" or "IRM to the Moon" so they are not kicked or banned.  It really is pathetic. 


Dias before you delete this, little message for you - SCAMMERS GO TO HELL!!!
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: October 28, 2018, 04:35:08 AM
I feel a bit like a hypocrite because I defended this project from the start..
No need to feel like that, I was in the same boat, although I realized a lot earlier what liars they are but still I am guilty of once defending them too.

Does anyone invested in IRM actually look at the big picture and see what they are doing?

They are using fake accounts in their own Telegram to fake "interest" and "amazing returns" to investors. 

Apart from the now obvious lies they told in their whitepaper and indeed their whole project is one big lie.

They never intended to use the cave.   Got to give it to them they sucked a lot of people in, me included.

But the problem with liars/scammers is they often forget all of the topics they have lied about and are often caught out. 


By their own admission the "Lifetime Profits" are for the miners life, in 2 years time they will just say something along the lines of "We would buy some more miners BUT it is not profitable for us to do so".  Either that or they will just disappear into the sunset.


And that Idiot who said "They would never scam their names are publicly known" - Guess what dickhead, the owners of Genesis Mining and Hashflare are also well known and have stopped paying, do you see anyone taking them to Court?

People forget these middle Asian/Russian con artists are answerable to nobody and unless they upset someone on the Political spectrum they are free to scam as they please with zero chance of them being held accountable 


Something else any of you soon to be broke IRM investors should realize and start doing is watching the wallets and top 100.  Why?   Let me explain.....




Don't believe me?

Okay, I don't give a fuck but that is what they are doing, sell your tokens now dump like there is no tomorrow as someone recently did because these shysters are going to be the only ones smiling in 2 years time, they are nothing but criminals posing as a company, that is how it works these days.

When you live in an "Untouchable" shithole like they do then you do not care if your face and name is all over the internet because you know that you would rather be mega rich and be labelled a scammer than poor and a nobody. 


I feel sorry for any of the genuine investors out there who actually think they will make ANY profit from this, there is no way in hell you will even see half of your money back, all you are doing is helping them reach their ultimate goal and you will be then left scratching  your head saying, what happened. 


When Dias says "Hater's go to hell" what he is really saying is, "Anyone that can see through our bullshit, go to hell and keep silent about it".


And to prove my theory if there is another dump watch all of their fake/shill Telegram accounts say how great their order got filled, and watch how quickly it bounces back to the price it was, that is IRM buying their own tokens so they have to pay you less, not that they pay more than less now.   Cheesy    BTC



Oh, one last thing, I forgot, do you also see now that Dias is no longer removing posts from the ANN thread, ask yourself why?


The reason why is outlined above, they have achieved their scam perfectly and now they are just add the final touches, a video or 2 a month keeps anyone happy right?   Cheesy
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: October 28, 2018, 04:34:43 AM


To my opinion, the price of ROCK2 tokens is maintained at a certain level....just because the team buy their own tokens below this level. So invetsors who ragequit and sell all their tokens "in one shot" are to my opinion doing a mistake.


1000 percent correct. 
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: October 22, 2018, 05:39:33 AM
The following is for anyone who is still invested or considering investing into Ice Rock Mining. 

This is a very small sample of the way they treat investors and also how much they lied about the whole concept of Ice Rock Mining. 

As you can see from the image below, this is how they treat their investors, simply for asking an honest legitimate question. 





And ANYONE who seriously believes the mining is lifetime, even though their ANN says "Lifetime Profits" as per previous post it is the lifetime of the Miners not your lifetime, so again, more smoke and mirror tactics they use to suck people in. 

A poster above questioned whether or not their Admin knew what he was saying when he posted about the lifetime being the machines or a human lifetime, well he has doubled down on that so I think this removes any doubt, this project will last at most 2 years then the payments which are already pathetically low will get lower and lower due to difficulty and them being a shady company.

That will be their exit, they will just stop paying out because of "The environment is beyond out control and we could not foresee blah blah" and woosh your money is GONE.



So as you can see it is the lifetime of the Miners NOT lifetime in the sense they wanted you to believe when buying at or post ICO. 

They are shady criminals who have used greed, lies and deception from conception. 

If you are holding ROCK2 you will still this month again receive $1.30 or so per thousand tokens. 

The current price per token at the time of writing this is $0.37 so to purchase 1000 tokens it will cost you $370.00 for a return of $1.30, I may be missing something here but if I invest $370 and get back $1.30 something would tell me that this is NOT a very good investment.   Cheesy


Also there is some shadiness with the top holders, I took a screen shot of the top 100 holders about 2 months ago, and let me tell you they HAVE been buying tokens and artificially pumping the price when it dips, they have also been selling, so they are playing you all like fools.

Seriously do not let your blind faith or greed for potential profits ruin you financially sell out now before they just disappear. 

And remember on the Telegram when you are talking to Peter K. you are actually speaking to Dias.  Although he is good at being deceptive, he really does suck at being sneaky, only took me a couple of weeks to work it out that he is Peter K.  But one thing he is good at is lieing and deflecting and setting up a scam, he has proved that with IRM. 





19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: October 22, 2018, 04:56:04 AM
That's a very weird thing to say while your customers are paying 20% for reinvestment. (that's currently covering the shortcoming in operational costs.)

That 20% supposedly replaces all those miners Before they go down with more efficient ones to keep your investment profitable.

So when admin sais that they are saying we are Not replacing anything and pocketing your 20% when shit breaks its gone.

Also how is the Cooling done now that you moved to the warehouse u don't have free cooling anymore how much is that going to cost ? might work during the winter without but how about summer ?


"It's probably better to think of the token profit more as a dividend share "

Not according to IRM apperantly because they say everything will just Die after 3 years so your eating your asset.



Is this true and confirmed by IRM management  or just an uninformed comment made by an  admin sitting in their telegram group not realky involved or on the company payroll.

How can IRM say in its whitepaper there will be 20% reinvestment to do maintenance and replace older machines and then turn around and say that once machine are not working they are not replaced in their mining farm? Who would invest in a company not willing to spend for rig maintenance and repair to keep its farm as efficient as possible.... for as long as possible.

IRM should be careful, their flip flops on so many promises they said they would do in their white paper  but are now no longer going to do could leave them open to many lawsuits.


yes that a good question your right that might be the case.

Id also like to add that if their customers have a choice between 50% payout Without replacement or a 30% payout With replacement the smart money would Choose the 30% payout if that makes your payout last "forever" instead of a couple of years.

**can someone that is NOT banned from their telegram ask and report back plz?



LOL asking that question would get the person banned.  You are not allowed to "question" their decisions.  In their own words "This is a dictatorship and business not a democracy". 

BTW have worked out Peter K is actually Dias, he is trying hard not to show his native language is not English but there are many tells.

The other thing Peter K/Dias is doing is, like the whole project a game of smoke and mirrors. 

Anyone fuds, Peter K/Dias is there and he also references page 2 of xxx report etc, he is answering as though he IS a company rep but pretending not be a company rep. 


Then he will come on-line as Dias.  LMAO 


Sorry for outing you Dias, hope this does not upset the tribe at home base. 

20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: October 22, 2018, 04:50:34 AM
Your message is a bit rude.

So it is okay for a company to scam/mislead/trick investors and go against everything in their whitepaper and business model, but you are worried about me being "A bit rude"?

 Cheesy
1/
Actually, the mine was not part of a marketing plan....They just really thought that it was possible to install ASICS there. So why they didn't do so ? I think they realized that because of moisture and dust it would really decrease the lifetime of the ASICS.
Look at the name of their project you fool, the mine was always THE feature of their marketing, low temps etc.  How blinded/ignorant are you?

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