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981  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin debit card on: January 20, 2015, 04:05:58 AM
I logged in the account but I did not find the button to withdraw BTC to another wallet address, I found only to withdraw to the card, also, no button for trading?

I believe that's under the 'Transfers' menu link


BTW I think the logout timeout is a bit too fast, i use pretty long passwords and it's a bit of a PITA while waiting for transfers. I know this is for security reasons, but I'm more than capable to click the logout button if I leave my computer unattended.

lol i know it seems like logs out in like 5 minutes they should add option where people can determine how long each session last and for those who want take out money can have like text sms or code sent to email for taking out money
982  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] BIT-X.com | Exchange BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP | Instantly Mine & Trade GH/s on: January 20, 2015, 04:03:48 AM
im really disappointed. I registered and submitted all my files immediately and still identity not verified.. Sad

how long has it been to since you submit verify information?
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Paycoin (XPY) = Federal Reserve on: January 20, 2015, 04:03:07 AM
Slighlty off topic but I will lay it here anyway.

Perhaps Paycoin bag holders should be aware of what happens when you are backed by fiat.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-16/largest-retail-fx-broker-stock-crashes-90-swiss-contagion-spreads

Obviously the fiasco that is still taking place with the Swiss Franc Euro de-peg just goes to show that centralized fiat banking is just as if not way more volatile.

That Paycoin is heavily backed by some good old dried up fiat.

Therefore, backing your currency with such fiat assets is risky.


dam that is horrible to have a currency drop imagine if it was backed by the russian currency not sure what it is called. I am sure would not be good as much as i have seen their currency drop in last 2 months on the forex exchange. Maybe some day will have it to where bitcoin needs no fiat back but will be independent. I know still need a currency but would be cool

If you think about it BTC doesn't really have a Fiat backbone.

It is only that way because that is one of the hooks to get people involved.

The technology and potential are what give it value IMO.

One day it will be independent.

Some dead skin needs shed first.

It's all a game of perception.





that is true just hope dont shed to much skin lol
984  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 19, 2015, 04:17:29 AM
So it seems Josh shouldn't have even bothered going to Miami. Considering he didn't do ANYTHING for paybase/paycoin and didn't even bother to talk to anyone officially.  (if you think him paying to have his logo on the side of a building is enough then lol at you)

Going there to do backdoor deals and leaving whilst having 2 bodyguards (they look like feminine bodyguards not scary at all) and nothing is pretty shady.  bet he thinks he is real clever about all that too.

If you didn't have any concerns about the schemes (read scams) that Josh is pulling and you still trust him, after this weekend and his pre recorded Q and A not to mention the shitty paybase exchange system where gaw have their bots in.  Then you deserve no money.



lol
985  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] BIT-X.com | Exchange BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP | Instantly Mine & Trade GH/s on: January 19, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
thank you for the list checked out the post, to me it seems like it is XAPO or something similar, card has actual customers name on them, is a visa card, does not ship to USA and 2 other countries..... just like XAPO. I have nothing against XAPO card i love the customer name on it and i love only sells the amount of bitcoin needed to cover the actual purchase right on the spot. I really hope bit-x follows this guide lines for the card the mentined few post ago should be out by march 2015  Wink

BIT-X.com's debit card, when launched, will not disappoint!

Oh wow so they are going to introduce their own debit card into this am assuming that one can then load funds into it and spend around the globe. Am assuming pre pay loadable debit card to load in funds and  use online.

If this is such a think please make it supportive in UK and to also support topping up feature using paypoint, if this got added to it then am sure many across the UK would use.

NOOOOOOOO lol we dont want a card you top off, we need a card that you can have bitcoin stored in wallet and spend only actual amount in bitcoin to fiat conversion. I hate that i have to top off ANX Premium mastercard 2-3 days in advance with a minimal of $100. Also want to see the customers name printed on card. I was actually denied a purchase at liquor store because anx card does not have customers name on them so they could not do age verification
986  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 18, 2015, 11:58:20 PM
I think btc will stay at 200 dollar,so dividends are at 350 or 400,no roi anymore but some satoshi....think positive  Grin

BTC will not stay at 200 USD. BFL has more to sell on court order, resulting in more liquidity in market. Price will be disturbed till mid 2015.

Ok, I'm only going to explain this once on this thread   Wink

I am aware maths and economics is not everyone's cup of tea  Huh

Bitcoin is not going to crash in price, if you own AMhash or Gensis Mining cloudmining GHs you're simply looking at a much longer ROI of about a 1 year, instead of 6 months ROI.

The price strain on the Bitcoin network is caused by needing to fund ASIC manufacturers like, AMhash, Zeus, Bitman, etc. When valuation price is much higher then the mining cost everyone is going to go out and buy mining equipment and cloudmining? Only, those in decently paid jobs will carry on buying up coin stocks via escrow and selling websites.

This example is just to explain the price stabilization and price correction mechanisms - no accurate statistics have been used in this explanation Grin

In fact, I think I found some of these statistics on the back of Kelloggs Cornflakes Box Shocked

2014 $600-$300 BTC price equal bumper sales of mining equipment. All manufacturers, take payments in BTC and a lot of people pay in BTC.

New coins in 2014 1314000, on average BTC price of $450 works out to be $591,300,000 on the entire year. Of course, most of these went to old miners, who tuck them away into their wallets to protect their original investment success.
      
Say, 10% become available to new investors who had Fiat Currency, this equals $59 million. Say, 50% of new investors turned their new BTC into payments for new mining equipment whenever they did released it was getting considerably more BTC through mining in 2014, compared to the alternative of price inflation matching Fiat Currency inflation.

This BTC went to ASIC manufacturers and other people sold of some of their old BTC to reinvest in bigger quantities of mining equipment.

Therefore, across 2014 super-sized volume had to be turned back into Fiat Currency ($40 million worth of BTC), because the ASIC manufacturers needed to pay in Fiat for for chip fabrication, raw and refined materials and a workforce.

Therefore, extra businesses like Bitstamp, BTC-E, etc appeared to re-convert this super-sized short-term Fiat Currency requirement. People (who did not have decently paid jobs) noticed this on these new exchanges (ASIC manufacturers and enlarged mining operations had to re-convert their BTC in Fiat Currency). They started short selling BTC; the quantity of their BTC balances grew and grew. Unfortunately, the ASIC manufacturers and enlarged mining operations were lazy and did not randomized or even break up their at sale quantities and ended up being easy prey for the short sellers. The BTC price went down and down throughout 2014.

Now, BTC is $210 and buying new mining equipment will only be done by older miners, who are protecting their old investment profits back in the days when BTC was $1 Shocked

BTC is $210, new coins is 1,314,000, which will be worth $275,940,000.  
10% is avaliable for sale in 2015 to new investors ($27 million), who will be buying for the block in halving in 2016 is when annual production drops to 657,000.

At this price, the money going to ASIC manufacturers will shrink, direct sales to old miners protecting Bitcoin will happen, but these men and women don't a care about current profitability because they got their coins before 2013 Wink

New people will not be buying mining equipment Angry

New clouding mining operations will halt. Sales 75% lower. This is why so ASIC manufacturers have gone bust  Embarrassed

So, the volume of BTC going into Fiat Currency Exchanges will be about 75% lower e.g. about $7 million. Obviously, short selling BTC when you haven't got the stock for more then 30 days is going to be quite funny to watch Shocked

So, the price will need to rise, to re-attract back BTC sellers, otherwise some of those exchanges will need to close.

Dudes, there are automatic price stabilization and price correction mechanisms in every POW crypto-currency Tongue

Price stabilization and correction are famous, in macro economics, for having big time-lag, which is why it has not really kicked in yet Tongue

The short seller are in for unpleasant 2015 Shocked



 

 

pretty long but seems like good evaluation Smiley
987  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: January 18, 2015, 11:54:15 PM
So what no news¿

nope i think they are gone for good, no more songs " thank goodness lol " no more games to try to figure out, no more weird conversations on the chat forum they had where was odd you could only talk if you had bought miners with actual bitcoin. Then again maybe they just off taking a break and will come back with more offers  Huh
988  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 18, 2015, 11:51:40 PM
You need to reduce the price, AMHash is significantly cheaper, both upfront and in fees.

Are you sure ?

AMHash is BTC2.4 for 2TH
Bitmain is BTC1.7 for 2TH

Breakeven if difficulty never rises again (yeah right) is

AMHash: 301 days
Bitmain: 238 days

Neither are a good buy

DAM that is a long time but  like you said maybe bitcoin difficulty wont go up and it will just keep on fropping or stay at current price for the next 6 months. I know wishful thinking but still would be awesome and maybe not that far off as i am sure some people are powering down them old miners, well the ones that have to pay for power
989  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 18, 2015, 05:12:05 PM
I just luv this quote from Paybase website:

"Josh Garza, who has built what may be the world’s fastest growing slowing bitcoin mining operation, is setting his sights on something even bigger: "the cryptocurrency of the future.""

 Grin

I think they need some updating there.

dam so soon already coming up with something new? I dont understand how homero is not a billionare with all the companys in different sectors he has owned. Also not to mention all the new idead that are always changing the future of man kinds ever few weeks is well beyond me. He must donate alot of his profit to charity
990  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 18, 2015, 05:06:36 PM
already sold off everything i had at AMHash on havelock, didnt lose too much. Done with trying out cloud mining

i am still holding 800 amhash1 shares not much so figured i will just leave it there since i bought in at 11 - 125 so i am already at loss only thing i can do now is hope for uptick on bitcoin price. Hope it happens sometime soon cause this is really sad what the dividend payments ore for amhash shares  Cry  Cry  Cry
991  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [Beta] MyBitMine.co | New Type Of Faucet | Get Bitcoin From Playing on: January 18, 2015, 05:00:50 PM
well seems like i was not earning last night, for about 2 hours the gold and all resources stayed the same. I would see timer going and it would refresh when time was up but nothing new updated stat wise. It is working now so that is good did anyone else have this issues last night well about 9 hours ago from time of this post  Huh
992  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hashnest S4 Market - Unit Price Guess 2000Gh/s as the awards on: January 18, 2015, 04:58:10 PM
we all wait for your new campaign Smiley
we are reday guess anything for free GH Smiley


We have a new promotion this weekend, looking forward to its coming Cheesy

waiting for the another promotion Cheesy


Will start on Sunday Tongue

come on Janet i love you long time please let me win something i never win  Cry  in anycase will see on here when you all post something on next promotion you all have as i still dont see anything as of right now 11:00 AM central time so it is already like 1am monday in china so not sure why dont see it  Huh
993  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ANX: Your Ultimate Crypto Trading Platform on: January 18, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
And one week later they still advertise telephone support. byt411 this is terrible. I would be really mad if I payed 0.12BTC for a card.

I know. I'm fully aware about that, and I have no idea why our devs haven't changed that yet. It is simply removing a row on the html file for that page, and I really don't know why it hasn't been changed yet. My superiors have said that they will change it, I can show you the email if you want.

Your supervisors should give us an answer.

Also, did you make the information about the loading time for the card easier to find? It doesn't look like it. 

yeah dont want to be like me i wanted to use my ANX Premium card right when i got it to go to strip club but nope could not. Whole process to load card like 2 business days NOT GOOD at all. In any case hope they address this and fix the issue cause " pre loading " the card is such a hassle we want to have bitcoin in wallet and for it to auto sell ONLY the amount of bitcoin to cover purchase
994  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] BIT-X.com | Exchange BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP | Instantly Mine & Trade GH/s on: January 18, 2015, 04:52:46 PM
   get that visa or mastercard debit out and i dont think you will need to quote yourself for visibility. I think people will come on there own if it is a card that lets you spend money on the spot with auto sell feature only for amount of purchase. I know i for one would be one of the people who is interested here is usa

e-coin.io offer much of that already: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.0
But they dont send to the US. Just have one sent to a friend abroad.

thank you for the list checked out the post, to me it seems like it is XAPO or something similar, card has actual customers name on them, is a visa card, does not ship to USA and 2 other countries..... just like XAPO. I have nothing against XAPO card i love the customer name on it and i love only sells the amount of bitcoin needed to cover the actual purchase right on the spot. I really hope bit-x follows this guide lines for the card the mentined few post ago should be out by march 2015  Wink
995  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin debit card on: January 18, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
BTC <-> VISA is not a new idea, it's just something that not even the well known BTC companies have been able to do yet, so you need to provide a LOT of details and why YOU are able to do this when others cannot.
ANX's premium card is a visa debit card. they hold the ANX logo because the underlying bank allows people to print their own logo on it if buying 100 cards in bulk. the underlying bank for ANX is www.mbank.pl

note... this is only valid for the premium card. their basic and plus debits are not visas.

LOL what my ANX Premium card is a mastercard and it does not have my name on it just says ANX so i cant use it to rent cars or buy airline tickets. Also my ANX Premium was sent from tokyo to me in midwest USA and i got it in like 5-6 days including weekend. I really hope this card not like ANX Premium, i hate that i have to send bitcoin, then they will deposit to card $100 minimal then you can use like 2-3 business days tokyo time/holidays
996  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin debit card on: January 18, 2015, 04:38:36 PM
I received my card today. A few things where unexpected.
First of all, the card actually carries my name, which is cool but some may not like. Those polish cards were all generic and "anonymous"
The card is actually issued by https://www.mychoicecorporate.com/company/
Which at first glance seems legit.
I got no pin, but it states I have to call mychoice in the UK to activate the card. The letter states I will have to confirm the card number and my date of birth. I dont remember giving the latter when I signed up (and it may not have been my actual birthdate), but we'll see.


thats company is th eone who provides the XAPO debit card as well. I have been waiting for XAPO card for some time but i am in the USA so i was told they have to get it worked out before can ship to USA customers. Also was told can have card " XAPO " shipped to someone outside usa like canada and use it in usa just fine. I am not sure if this card will be the same but sounds like it
997  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin debit card on: January 18, 2015, 04:13:09 PM
...
Full details can be found here: https://www.e-coin.io/legal
...
There are no details anywhere.
Details you should have are the company name and full registration details.
The fully verifiable names of the company owners and the historical contact address details of the company.

To have such a card you must be dealing with VISA and VISA will not allow some random anonymous internet scammer to deal with them.
They will require such details also.

You expect people to give you BTC with a zero trust rating, no posts on this forum and all details about your company and web site hidden.

Seriously - you think anyone WOULDN'T think it's a scam?


Totally see your point, mate. I wouldn't trust my money to someone I don't know.
Hence, this post and this whole discussion.

You can see the company details here:
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk
Company No. 09228951

Or here:
https://www.duedil.com/company/09228951/e-coin-trading-limited

Or here:
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/09228951/E-COIN-TRADING-LIMITED

Will be happy to PM more details to you and would appreciate if you could check them and post in this forum once all your questions have been answered.

To have such a card we can be dealing with Visa directly or with an official Visa card issuer. The latter is the case for us. You are absolutely right in that neither would deal with a random internet scammer, so the actual fact that the card is being issued and shipped is proof of the opposite.

May I suggest that you give it a try? It is only $1 during beta stage, and not free only for the reason that people don't treat free stuff seriously.
Also, would be happy to meet you at http://bitcoinexpo2015.com/ later this month.

Hope I've addressed your concerns best as I could


trust me you are better of just posting all the information the people are asking you for instead of sending PM to people one by one. That way everyone can see what you are posting and also so you dont run the risk of person reading it and getting wrong translation if they dont speak english good. I know might only be one dollar but it is a poor attitude to say " only $1 " yes i spend $6 for each pack of smokes so yes $1 is not alot but noone wants to loose even if just $1
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Paycoin (XPY) = Federal Reserve on: January 18, 2015, 03:59:31 PM
Slighlty off topic but I will lay it here anyway.

Perhaps Paycoin bag holders should be aware of what happens when you are backed by fiat.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-16/largest-retail-fx-broker-stock-crashes-90-swiss-contagion-spreads

Obviously the fiasco that is still taking place with the Swiss Franc Euro de-peg just goes to show that centralized fiat banking is just as if not way more volatile.

That Paycoin is heavily backed by some good old dried up fiat.

Therefore, backing your currency with such fiat assets is risky.


dam that is horrible to have a currency drop imagine if it was backed by the russian currency not sure what it is called. I am sure would not be good as much as i have seen their currency drop in last 2 months on the forex exchange. Maybe some day will have it to where bitcoin needs no fiat back but will be independent. I know still need a currency but would be cool
999  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Netflix accounts for $0,15 10 free vouch accounts on: January 18, 2015, 07:42:06 AM
Hello i came across this and have some questions i am just a bit confussed on the offer. So are you giving away Netflix cards that are worth something like $5 or $10 or $15? Are you selling them? please let me know and is this for people in the USA or is it for only certain people in certain areas / countries. thanks in advance
1000  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 18, 2015, 05:59:55 AM
New promotion comes on Sunday Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Thank you i cant wait to see promotion it is already Sunday here so am suprised am not seeing it maybe i will try logging out from my hastnest and all stuff and rebooting has been on 2 days while i been busy with friends and family  Wink
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