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881  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: December 19, 2021, 08:37:39 PM
I don't know how significant the above data is, and if my original post made WO so dirty or whatever. This is what it is, take it as you may. I present the data, it may be skewed, incomplete, small sample, and whatever else you can say about it. The reader can draw his/her own conclusions.

On the worldwide scale, it's not significant, at all. For all the reasons you listed. It's just your local, personal experience.

Larger world collected data and metrics are what is significant, and tell the true story.
882  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: December 19, 2021, 07:53:00 PM

The vaccines aren't to blame for anybodies death by Covid. The manufacturers never claimed a 100% protection against death in vaccinated persons.

Yes, "they" absolutely did in the beginning. They claimed that vaccinated people would not contract Covid, nor spread it to other people. And they flat out lied to the public. The vaccine makers already knew about all the side effects and clinical trial deaths, but want to suppress that data for 55 years.

https://dossier.substack.com/p/memory-hole-virtually-every-major

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“Our data from the CDC suggests that vaccinated people don’t carry the virus, don’t get sick and that it’s not just in clinical trials, but it’s also in real world data.” - CDC Director Rochelle Walensky.
883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2021, 06:42:08 PM


This is disgusting. Dirty dirty dirty move... using the death of fellow WOer's close relative to shill your anti-vaxxer shit.  Sad

STRF suffers from a sick and powerful ego, maybe even from a serious mental condition.
 
@AlcoHODL: Really sorry for your loss.

@WO's:
Don't let us forget who the enemy is. It's not the "vaxxers", nor the "anti vaxxers", nor the conspiracists or emotionally numb s-holes.
It's the novel, mutating bitch of virus. It is a challenge that we have to take, it won't go by without the price we have to pay, as humans, as society, as humanity, as a group of BTC believers trying to have fun and debate on the biggest forum thread of bitcointalk.org.
I don't care how but anybody is free to do as he likes, as long as he takes care about himself and others.
Vaccines, masks, pills, distancing... whatever. Just don't try to be a selfish prick.
AlcoHODL's post and response was not about the Covid directly, it was about his tragic loss.
That's why he supposedly posted it here, like many of us did, even if it wasn't related to Covid.



A relative of my uncle died recently with Covid-19, and he was 100% fully vaccinated.

I never posted it here for sympathy and to go on an epic rant about vaccines, but should I have? I thought this was the Bitcoin WO thread.

If AlcoHODL had left out the condescending rant against people who choose not to take the vaccine, he never would have triggered me. Plus he posted it here, instead of Bob's off-topic thread he was already aware of, because he's posted there before also. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. And all you guys are applauding him for it.

You guys talk all this smack about being tolerant and understanding, and letting people choose for themselves. But then you allow and celebrate the virtue signaling and condescension. smh

EDIT: Oh and Jimbo, it's not about "bullshit politics". It's about personal freedom, liberty, and choice. Remember that?
884  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
Ok, that's it. I've had it.

After all Covid discussion here was forced, yes FORCED off this WO thread because people didn't like it discussed here and moved into Bob's off-topic thread, now pro-vaxxers are allowed to bring it back to be discussed here? And to get sympathy, merits, and fawned over?

This was supposed to be neutral ground to talk about Bitcoin and other world happenings. Complete hypocrisy and bullshit.

If so, I'm completely done with the WO. Will never post here again.

I've been thinking about leaving anyway, as I've seen the participation falling off for years now.

And it's not like there is anything ever new here: either you're already a believer in Bitcoin and are a HODLer, you're a shit poor daytarder, or you're a shill and a troll.
885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2021, 01:08:55 PM
Another truly tragic COVID-19 casualty. In my family.

45 years old. 6.2 ft tall. Perfectly healthy. Never had any illnesses throughout his life. Was serving in the military (Lieutenant, O-3). As you probably know, military officers regularly undertake medical tests, and his was perfectly clean. Stationed at a weapons research facility, doing research on encrypted network protocols.

Not vaccinated (out of "principle", whatever the FUCK that means). Contracted COVID-19. Fell ill. Within a week he was in ICU. A week later he was dead. DEAD. Got that? DEAD!

A brilliant man, a great military officer and scientist, LOST due to some medieval, dark-ages, Ted Kaczynski-type ideas, circulated for-profit on the internet, claiming that vaccines, medicines, science, technology, are somehow bad for us and we should abstain from them. He leaves behind his wife and two little girls.

Sorry to post this here, but it needs to be heard. If the mods want, they can delete it or move it to Bob's thread. The pain is just too much for me right now. I just had to post this, in the hope that some "anti-vaxxers" out there read it and WAKE THE FUCK UP. I'm not talking about what I've heard, read, or dreamt, this is real life inside my own social circle.

And anyone offended by this post can go fuck themselves, thank you.

Sorry for your loss...but now I AM getting really fucking offended at the Mod of this WO thread that you can post this fucking over the top rant about how you think that a fucking piece of shit vaccine that DOESN'T DO SHIT TO STOP ANYTHING AT ALL and has caused 2.4M adverse drug reactions, heart inflammation, blood clots, and deaths would have somehow MAGICALLY SAVED your family member from dying??  Huh You're the one that needs to take the red pill and wake the fuck up, dude. There have been hundreds of thousands of people worldwide ending up in the ICU and dying who are 100% vaccinated. 100 FUCKING PERCENT!! You pro-vaxxers who are out there white-knighting and think that you have some sort of moral high-ground can absolutely, positively fuck off. I am so sick of this grandstanding bullshit.

And to be able leave this post here in WO? This rant should be moved to Bob's off-topic thread ASAP. End of fucking story. Otherwise I'm calling out the hypocritical bullshit right here and now.  Angry



886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2021, 09:02:57 PM
$45K Buy Wall growth update from Coinbase Pro. Earlier was around 550, now around 700 BTC. Still thinking this one can hold:


I don't really disagree with almost all of your points of your post - including if there is some kind of tension regarding the various price pressure points that could end up causing a short-term break down or up from here...

I do wonder a wee widdow bit regarding your on the face assertion that the formation of a buy wall would constitute actual support.. because whether we are talking about a supposed support wall or even an apparent wall of resistance - the presence of those kinds of support walls do not seem to provide convincing evidence of actual support. even though sure, there does not really seem to be any problem pointing them out... even if sometimes people will refer to them as reverse indicators.. and maybe whether you deem them as an indicator or a reverse indicator might be based on other things going on.... and surely questions regarding if they appear to get eaten through or pulled can be other aspects too, in terms of price wall analysis attempts.

Problem also is, bots could easily add to buywalls, to create an impression of solid support levels, and then revoke/lower their bids as the price is lowering.
BAM - price goes through the buywall...
I also examined the buildup of sellwalls as soon as there is a significant move upwards, and i also saw these limit orders moving upwards with price rise.
I doubt that that many people do this on an exchange in real time simultaneously. If you know what i mean...

Just talking out of my arse here, but if history repeats, the whales will be looking to grind it down to $40k. They know that $40k is a psychological level, so once there, I could see a flash dump crashing through 40k into the upper 30s, before taking off again. They wanna make the n00bs shit their pants and panic sell. Many new Mindrusts will be made that day.

Or, ya' know, the worst could be over. I still think the market is libel to go nowhere until the new year.
887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2021, 02:07:48 PM
Bitcoin ‘may not last that much longer,’ academic warns
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/17/bitcoin-may-not-last-that-much-longer-academic-warns.html

Message: You hear that Average Joe? It's not going to be around much longer. Stay the fk away from Bitcoin!

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“Given that bitcoin is not serving well as a medium of exchange, I don’t think it’s going to have any fundamental value other than whatever investor’s faith leads it to have,” Prasad said.

Uh...that's the very definition of sound money, you dumbass.  Roll Eyes

888  Economy / Speculation / Re: I know you have all been waiting in anticipation of on update.... on: December 17, 2021, 06:26:39 PM
Hory sheet, sgbett the troll returns.

As if your last laughable price bottom prediction (which failed miserably) wasn't bad enough, now you come back with $1150??

Even proudhon couldn't suggest a bottom like that one and keep a straight face.

My god man, give it up. Go crawl back into your hole. Maybe take up ant farming.
889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2021, 06:10:53 PM
However, there is a thought out there that 2008 experience had informed the policy makers that you CANNOT collapse the collateral layer (stocks, bonds, RE) without a danger that the whole thing utterly collapses.
Didn't history teach us policy makers can't prevent market crashes?

Yeah, but what happens when policy makers (via the Fed) are so in control of the markets with infinite, cheap fiat that they are now in the business of deciding when and how to create crashes?

This is what people who sit on the sidelines in fear are missing. In between those planned, short-lived DOWNities will be a whole lot of long, ongoing UPpity. All by design. And people who sit on the sidelines waiting for a crash are getting 10-15% poorer each year.

Personally, I will stick to bitcoin: the fastest horse in the race.
890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2021, 05:16:38 PM
891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2021, 03:50:45 PM
The psychological cost of waiting. Especially applies to Bitcoin.



Now is a great time to buy buy buy BTC
892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2021, 01:11:39 PM

Next pres video: "You don't need a shotgun. Just clap you hands together twice, real loud..."
893  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: December 17, 2021, 01:13:19 AM


"The jabs don't prevent transmission, therefore you need more injections to prevent transmission, which still won't work either. Oh and self-protection (that doesn't really prevent anything) wanes, so you'll need regular boosters too."
894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2021, 02:17:37 PM
OT: All this talk in the MSM about the "relief rally" in stonks, and how the market "liked" the hawkish Fed news about tapering and potential 3 rate hikes in 2022.

Lol, what bullshit. The stonk market only likes free money, and more of it. They in fact hate tapering, and really hate higher interest rates. And they could give a shit about inflation.

A bunch of shorts got hammered, that is all.

What everyone should be very worried about is when the Fed really *does* start seriously tapering and raising rates. That would start the clock, and mean that another global black swan "event" is right around the corner. By design.
895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2021, 12:43:09 PM
You might disagree with his focus (albeit not completely) on alts, but this is overall a very decent guy (Tyler aka Chico Crypto), imho.
Burned out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_FWxlKRYBc
It's sad to see that being under stress of producing content daily did something quite bad for his mental state.
A very honest, jarring video.
Don't get the "game" get to you.

Getting off a daily grind in bitcoin and kind of moving to a long term picture has been very good for me this cycle vs 2017-2018-first excitement, then crash, pins and needles.


Dang, it really pains me to see guys like this who have a serious addiction to caring so fkn much about crypto TA. Something that they don't even realize is a complete waste of time and life. There's nothing more depressing and soul-crushing for a man than to sit around trying to make sense of and trying to predict something that you have absolutely no control over whatsoever. This is the exact same shit that destroyed the lives of many young wanna-be daytraders of penny stocks back in the last few decades. Many of them ended up in massive bankruptcy and committed suicide.

The guy needs to gtfo of shitcoins, stop looking at the prices, get off the internet, and go do something product with his life. Learn a skill, get a hobby, make friends, get a girlfriend, travel. Whatever. Invest in himself and his future.

There is no "game". There is only your dumb ass for thinking there ever was one. It's all a delusion, dude. smh
896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2021, 04:19:18 PM
OT: It's like they are already low-key telegraphing to the world what their next "global plan-tastrophy" is going to look like:

EXCLUSIVE IMF, 10 countries simulate cyberattack on global financial system
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/exclusive-imf-10-countries-simulate-cyber-attack-global-financial-system-2021-12-09/

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The narrator of the film in the simulation said governments were under pressure to clarify the impact of the attack, which was paralysing the global financial system.

"The banks are appealing for emergency liquidity assistance in a multitude of currencies to put a halt to the chaos as counterparties withdraw their funds and limit access to liquidity, leaving the banks in disarray and ruin," the narrator said.

The participants discussed multilateral policies to respond to the crisis, including a coordinated bank holiday, debt repayment grace periods, SWAP/REPO agreements and coordinated delinking from major currencies.

So a world wide cyber attack crisis requires the coordinated response of global emergency liquidity (money printer go moar trillions $$$ brrr), debt moratoriums, and global bank holidays. Gee, who woulda thunk it?  Roll Eyes

Remember Event 201, anyone?   Wink
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about

63,000 Websites Hit With Outages As Users Report Amazon Web Service Issues
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/63000-websites-hit-outages-users-report-amazon-web-service-issues

Testing, testing....is this mic on? Lol
897  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: December 15, 2021, 01:15:47 PM
Couple of truth bombs from Ben Gilroy  Cheesy



898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2021, 07:37:42 PM
End of year/beginning of new year prediction:

Some well-known entity or person is going to announce a sizeable bitcoin acquisition. It could be Elon Musk (again), Jack, M. Saylor, Ark Invest, or some other notable person or company we haven't heard about yet.

It'll either happen right before 2021 ends, or shortly after 2022 begins.

Just leaving this here for the funzies.

You think the price action is in part reflecting that "work" currently being done?

Yes.

Wealthy elites, entities, and funds don't buy assets on-market and at high prices. They buy OTC, below spot when the asset is undervalued, and their whale connections help them to do it.
899  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: December 14, 2021, 07:23:08 PM
Twitter will now ban users that repeatedly claim vaccinated people can spread Covid
https://yournews.com/2021/12/12/2265511/twitter-will-now-ban-users-that-repeatedly-claim-vaccinated-people/

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One of the most notable changes to this “COVID-19 misleading information policy” we noticed is related to claims about whether vaccinated people can spread the coronavirus. The policy now states that Twitter will label tweets with “corrective information” and give users a strike if they:
  • Claim that “the vaccines will cause you to be sick, spread the virus, or would be more harmful than getting COVID-19
  • Post what Twitter describes as “false or misleading claims that people who have received the vaccine can spread or shed the virus (or symptoms, or immunity) to unvaccinated people

This means Twitter users could now be sanctioned for sharing or discussing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC’s) admission that “yes, vaccinated people can still become infected and have the potential to spread the virus to others.”

Some of the other claims that will be sanctioned under Twitter’s updated policy include:

  • “False or misleading information suggesting that unapproved treatments can be curative of COVID-19” (label and one strike)
  • “Claims that “vaccines (in general) are dangerous and the adverse effects that have been covered up by governments/the medical industry” (removal and two strikes)
  • “Tweets that incite fear or misrepresent the ingredients or contents of COVID-19 vaccines” (label and one strike)
  • “Tweets that mischaracterize the nature and science behind mRNA vaccines, and how they work” (label and one strike)
  • “Tweets that claim vaccines alter genetic code” (label and one strike)”


Holy fkn shit, talk about squelching the truth!  Angry

"Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth"
900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2021, 04:45:33 PM
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   “America is the prophetic image of the rest of the urban-industrial world as it will be a few years from now – recent public opinion polls have revealed that an actual majority of young people in their teens, the voters of tomorrow, have no faith in democratic institutions, see no objection to the censorship of unpopular ideas, do not believe that government of the people by the people is possible and would be perfectly content, if they can continue to live in the style to which the boom has accustomed them, to be fueled, from above, by an oligarchy of assorted experts. That so many of the well-fed young television-watchers in the world’s most powerful democracy should be so completely indifferent to the idea of self-government, so blankly uninterested in freedom of thought and the right to dissent, is distressing but not too surprising.”

    – Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World Revisited” (1958)

So from a young people mindset, nothing has really changed. But what HAS changed is what and how the marketeers are selling to them.

For decades, consumers were marketed to on the basis of a homogeneous lifestyle: getting everyone on the same page in terms of what type of house, car, clothing, clubs, jewelry, trips, etc. constituted living in high style, class, and sophistication. These trends were all-encompassing, i.e., at any moment in time you were either part of the societal "in-club", or you weren't. Most people wanted to be in it, as there were benefits.

Now things have splintered all over the internet, and people can easily find their siloed, circle-jerking little havens for whatever stupid thing they are into...however banal, valueless, and classless it may be. So the elites have given up. Marketeers are no longer attempting to bring societies together under universal fads or notions of societal trends and ideas of classy norms. They are instead marketing directly to these splintered sub groups by collecting their individual data. "That silly thing, service, or over-indulgence you want that nobody else around you cares about except for your little circle of internet friends? Here it is, and we're here to help you get more of it."

Some people might see this as a good thing, like some sort of liberty from societal expectations and gatekeeping. But I believe that its why young people are so confused now. On the internet they have access to every stupid, fad-driven thing or indulgence they believe that they want in life, but no longer have any societal cues, guides or signposts to show them the way to live a happy, fulfilled, classy, sophisticated lifestyle. They are completely rudderless. And their parents and grandparents have completely given up trying to guide them and have checked out.

AKA - The future is a world of depressed, broke hoarders who will live in shoe boxes and endlessly shop the internet for trinkets. Change my mind.
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