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1  Other / Meta / Re: [CLUB]The SpamBuster!4 Cases open,over 3000 accounts, Reviewed:5000+ [11.09] on: September 24, 2018, 02:06:16 PM
"Hi, everybody."  Grin Grin Grin Grin

I've run into a clear case of merit abuse, this guy.
All of his latest merits are sent to posts that are cases of plagiarism/ text spinning from different sources.

Unfortunately, I've been able to find the source and report only a few of them

I simply can't find the source for the others and with no time to check them all I'm afraid they might start deleting the posts once some of the accounts are starting to get banned

2  Other / Meta / Re: The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam on: September 24, 2018, 12:51:55 PM
I've updated the OP:
In 24 hours, that's 23.3% less posts.
In 48 hours, that's 18.6% less posts.
In 1 week, that's 15.9% less posts.
Unfortunately, it looks like the spam reduction is already diminishing. That can be caused by the fact that last week the number of users with 1 Merit went up 25x faster than it did in previous weeks. Many Newbies were promoted back to Jr. Member, and many of those were ranked up through Merit abuse. I also see more Newbies wearing Copper Membership now, which allows them to continue spamming their signature.

I'm ok with 15%
Don't forget that when comparing the 24h interval you're comparing Sunday with Monday, and you can see a drop one week before also

0 | 26510 |
1 | 42433 |
2 | 46736 |
3 | 54921 |
4 | 45271 |
5 | 48072 |
6 | 48926 |
7 | 46559 |
8 | 45886 |
9 | 49366 |
10 | 55894|

Posting tweeter and fb links was not affected by this and I assume a lot of them started posting more since the signature option was no longer available. Judging by the fact that the Bounties board has become the second largest it might be safe to approximate 25% of the traffic goes there so the drop comes from the other sections.

And unfortunately, there are a lot of spammers with 0 merits that have ranked a long time ago and those are not affected.

3  Other / Meta / Re: Writing a welcome message on: September 24, 2018, 08:07:56 AM
I think the message should be shorter - much shorter. Or at least have the table of contents expanded into more of a summary: this is a Bitcoin forum, not a job... don't post shit... don't fall for scams... etc, with links to more details on each point.

We know that people don't read, particularly 90% of people who register on this forum. So the "donts" for bounty hunters should be very prominent in this message.

Exactly, nobody reads the T&C with Google, Yt or Fb, let's not fool ourselves believing they will read this if it takes more than 1 minute.

If you are fluent in any language other than English, then it is highly encouraged for you to post in your local board. These boards often have tight-knit communities which will be able to help you, and in some ways you might be at an advantage compared to English-only posters.

In the English sections, only English is allowed. It is not necessary to speak perfect English, though you should be understandable. Try your best. If you're unsure whether your English is good enough, ask in your local board or in the Beginners & Help section
If you are not able to speak English at a basic level please use ONLY the Local Boards, do not try to use automated translation services.

The only way to make sure they will go through all of it would be to put captchas after each paragraph.

I don't remember reading those T&C myself, I didn't even read the entire mortgage contract as it was 70 pages long...
4  Economy / Economics / Re: Citibank says: Amazon should split into two companies on: September 24, 2018, 07:56:52 AM
Perhaps "anti trust" is a poor label for it. Anti-americanism might be more accurate here.   Cheesy
Is there a silent and secret war being waged against the united states and its economy?

Let me scan the article for the guys that are waging war against this American company....

  • Citi Research part of Citigroup Inc. is an American multinational investment bank
  • Mark May  - American
  • President Donald Trump - President of the United States
  • Bill Simon - American
  • Walmart - American multinational retail corporation
  • Congress I bet he was reffering to the US Congress

So, who can you blame for anti-Americanism here other than Americans?  Cheesy

Another form of anti-americanism might be found in countless crypto exchanges not accepting business from US residents. Everytime I see a crypto platform advertising something like a sports betting contest, I usually can't participate. Why? Because I'm an american and my country is blocked. Want to do leveraged trading on bitmex? Can't do it. US resident.

Well, this is how we in eastern Europe have felt when our money was no good for US services (I couldn't even buy a damn webhost) because....reasons. Oh, but let's forget about the past, you know how many products on Amazon and be shipped to Denmark and not to Poland or Hungary? A lot!!!! And that because....reasons...

5  Economy / Economics / Re: Differences between the developed countries and developing countires on: September 24, 2018, 07:41:32 AM

All the examples of high population density per km countries are losing population on long term (probably it can reverted in Netherlands and Belgium due mass immigration, but then it's another story). People from developed countries tend to have less children for some reason.

And these Africa countries population is growing fast on long term. One of the reasons may be due the mortality rates are decreasing. Africa is one of the most chaotic continents in the world, many epidemics and wars make the population grow slower, but it doesn't mean they tend to have less children.

Well, it's just an observation. You will find exceptions, but from a general perspective it really makes sense.

Yeah, I can agree with that but they are losing population only AFTER they have reached a developed status.
And people in developed countries tend to do that because they want to still have some time off while raising kids (impossible with Cool and because they are planning ahead, you won't be able on the average wage to sustain 8 kids at the level you can do with 2.

In poor countries...those are stupid ideas. You need to keep producing them to help you at work, screw education, screw other needs, all that is important is manpower. No wonder in many countries families is really disappointed when they get a daughter and not a son.

Besides, density is also heavy influenced by a lot of other factors.
If we look at Japan and New Zealand,330 vs 15 per km2, both islands, both developed countries yet....
Even if we talk about African Countries, Nigeria is at 200 while Niger at 15.
And there are huge differences even in the US, for example, Nebraska and California.

Nope, density is not a factor, unless we talk about the density of public toilets per sq km2, which I'm pretty sure would paint a better picture
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did I lose money for Bitcoin? on: September 23, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
I started researching and investing in Bitcoin from February 2018, at that time 1 BTC was priced over 8k $, I bought 20BTC and then the price started rising. When looking at Bitcoin price charts in December 2017 I was very happy and thought I was lucky to invest properly! Then 2 months in March 2018, 1BTC was priced at over $ 11k, I was happy and decided to buy another 50BTC, I thought I would be a millionaire! But not! Then the price of BTC started to fall and I lost a lot of money! I was scared and did not understand why the price of BTC decreased! As well as buying BTC, I was fomo, invested a lot of money but did not understand what I was doing. Then I calm down and explore the market, and I realize that everything has its causes and rules! I started the trader and gradually recovered the lost money! I know a lot of people like me, invest their money without knowing what they are doing! I advise people to research thoroughly before bringing money to the market! And according to my personal opinion, the upcoming Bitcoin will drop to about $ 5k before rising again! invest your money wisely, it is your decision! good luck guys!

Oh nice story....
So you first invested 160 000$ and then another 550 000$ and you're participating in bounties for pennies?
Not even talking about that 200$ motorcycle in your facebook profile you're so proud of  Grin Grin Grin

@pawel7777 and franky1  Cry how I hate fast typers  Grin Grin Grin
7  Economy / Economics / Re: Dollar rises in Indonesia, what is the economic fate? on: September 23, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
What about the economic fate in Indonesia, will it continue to experience chaos?[/b]

When you put your fate in the hands of this kind of people....

Dozens of Indonesians who served jail time for corruption are set to run for public office, the country's electoral agency said on Friday (Sep 21), as the world's largest Muslim-majority nation kicks off campaigning at the weekend.

bitcoin, crypto, not even Allah is going to be able to help you out.

In Indonesia, the dollar rises while the Rupiah weakens, if the dollar rises why Bitcoin Prices do not rise.

Because the situation in Indonesia is irrelevant both to the global economy and to bitcoin prices and it's not going to be influenced by the fall of the Turkish lira or the Indonesian rupiah. Bitcoin acts just like other commodities, do you see a spike in oil, gold or milk because of the situation in Indonesia?

8  Economy / Economics / Re: Poor Internet Services Could Cause Hamper Crypto Adoption in Africa on: September 23, 2018, 11:22:58 AM
Africa is a poor country, in which there are a lot of problems, as in the economy, in the environment, in education, etc.

No, it is not. And I'm not talking about poor but the fact that Africa is NOT a country.
And from this come a lot of problems with this thread.

For example:

No, it's not Japan, it's Morroco.

And there are some other fun facts, like Gabon having a better GDP per capita that Serbia Thailand or Indonesia.
Again another fun fact is that South Africa has more internet users in % of the entire population than....  China!!!!  Grin

Considering Africa as a whole entity, putting together South Africa and Liberia, Niger and Nigeria and talking about adoption overall is a mistake, just as you can't lump together Moldova and Portugal or Belgium and Belarus.

Some of those countries in Africa can already adopt cryptos, some will probably not be able to do it even by the end of the century. Some have 4 lines highways some have only dirt roads, some have created multi-billion companies some have never used the word billion other than in math classes.

9  Economy / Economics / Re: We can totally eradicate poverty if we TRULY want to. on: September 22, 2018, 08:10:56 PM
All that is necessary is the distribution of this wealth.

Stupid people, teenagers, and losers are the only ones that think this is the solution.

Unlike a lot of people here, I have experienced what wealth distribution to everybody would lead to...instead of having 20%-10%-5% poor people in a country we ended all poor. Dirt poor! This was the result of socialism and distribution of wealth to everybody! Cold, hunger, lack of medicine, lack of services, lack of everything.

The moment you start your crusade to eradicate poverty you can be sure you're going to end with all those you wished to help just as poor as before and just as poor as everybody else.

Just two way to give the lives of poor people be better, one gives him a job and the second makes an education so that he can manage the money he has, for example he can innovate to make a job with the expertise they have, surely with strict supervision.

And from where is going the one that employs those guys all the money to pay for those wages?
Oh, let me guess...out of his own pocket or from the government by taxing the ones that were able to get a job without help, thus punishing a part of the citizens in order to create a fake utopia where everyone is employed and leaves a beautiful life!

Do you really believe that jobs can be created just like tokens, with a few clicks?

Stop talking crap, because you are only making a ass of yourself. My father had very humble beginnings and he worked hard to build a very successful business. In the end he had 1040 people working for him and he paid them respectable wages. None of these people were slaves, they fed their families and they had a decent living standard. <He even provided free housing>

Too late, you've been uncovered !!!
You capitalist slave driver pig! /joking  Grin

10  Other / Meta / Re: Most annoying word of forum on: September 22, 2018, 06:44:28 PM
The most annoying expression would be "doing bitcoin" !!!

I don't know what they want to say by this, but to me, it sounds like somebody trying to stick his you know what in a power outlet and try hashing the next block.

"Sir" is taking second place, pretty annoying although it can be funny when used like this  Grin

Reserved, plz, bounty and bounty hunters, great/good/whatever project, are competing for the last place on the podium.

I also hate word "bounty". When I see "Bounty" chocolate bar in shop I always remember all these bounty spammers on Bitcointalk and I don't want to buy this chocolate anymore Cheesy

That's ok, because Bounties are the worst chocolate bar. Maybe ever. I don't think I've ever seen a box of Celebrations that didn't have just Bounties and Milky Ways left after all the good ones are gone.

I actually like those more than the others, and just like LTU_btc I instantly think about ICOs and spammers.
But still, this has not stopped me from buying them, no way in hell I'm not going to let those morons ruin my appetite for anything.
11  Other / Meta / Re: Growing Blackmarket for Merit trading on: September 22, 2018, 02:42:16 PM
People are paying more for merit than a Copper Membership costs? That seems a bit insane to me.

The recent avalanche of topics in all sections about the recent update proved that maybe half of the forum users are unable to search for a topic and information. How many of them do you think are aware that Copper Membership can be bought?

This is just like newbies buying obsolete overpriced miners on ebay  Wink

i will get up with my knowledge and contribute my quota to the growth of this forum, believing that one day i will be merited for just only one post to enable me get back my account on Bountyhive as a Jr. Member.

I really have no idea what this guy is talking about  Huh Huh

I have a feeling that Copper membership will be perceived with a certain stigma, particularly on accounts with lots of posts and zero merits. I would be like saying "I'm so useless that the only way for me to become a member of this forum was to pay for it". So in that respect having a merit looks better. Although Copper offers other advantages, such as a larger signature. Real ballers will want both.

To be honest, usually when I see "Merit: 1" in the description of a user I'm curious to click and check how one earth did that user get merit. And in most cases.... Cry

12  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: September 22, 2018, 10:41:33 AM
At least some shitposters realize they post crap and they do edit it:


Improved Enriched Fertilized version:

13  Other / Meta / Re: LoyceV's Merit data analysis on: September 22, 2018, 10:25:28 AM
LoyceV, is it possible to find out how many of those 21235 that have received at least one merit have been banned?

The modlog is currently showing 358 "autobans" and clicking randomly I've stumbled upon 4-5 users that got 1 merit recently.
Wonder how many ended up like that....

14  Economy / Economics / Re: Differences between the developed countries and developing countires on: September 21, 2018, 03:50:22 PM
The main difference between the developing and developed countries is the power they have, especially in terms of arms. African country have a fuckload of resources, but they are underdeveloped. US has little to no resources yet they are over-developed.


2: The United States of America
With about $45 trillion in natural resources, the U.S. is number two on the list. The U.S. has over 31% of the world's coal, but also has large amounts of timber. A total of 89% of the country's natural resources are from coal and timber, but it also has sizable deposits of natural gas, oil, gold and copper

The main difference between the developing and developed countries is the power they have, especially in terms of arms. African country have a fuckload of resources, but they are underdeveloped. US has little to no resources yet they are over-developed. US can literally destroy countries if they want, but if they do,well its gonna be bad for them too, so that's why they aren't. So the US is more focused on ending African countries economically than going for a war.

What army does Japan have? Or the Netherlands? Or Denmark?
You should really watch this movie about Africa, Empire of Dust
It's not the US army who is forcing millions of Indians to shit and pee in the streets  Wink

Population might be another factor: Developed countries aren't overpopulated in relation to their territory size, developing countries are.

Density is relly not a criteria

Density per sq km
Netherlands      416
Belgium                   355   
Japan                   337   

Botswana      3.4
Angola      15
Madagascar   35

15  Other / Meta / Re: Account banned without any reason or warning on: September 21, 2018, 03:24:37 PM

Probably plagiarism/text spinning.. and quite lame I must add

I do not think so, because I do not see or haven't read clear instruction about that issue. Google I think has no issue about crypto currency but maybe because of so many scam ICO are being advertise there and might sound alarming but will wait what action google will do.

I don't think so in light of the fact that I don't see or haven't perused clear guideline about that issue. Google I contemplate crypto currency however perhaps due to such a significant number of scam ICO are being advertise there and might sound disturbing yet will hold up what activity google will do.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptojacking is up 459% in 2018, and its the NSAs Fault on: September 21, 2018, 02:27:28 PM
Nope, it's the fault of :

a) the one using the exploit
b) the admins that are supposed to take care of that and who haven't patched it although :

A patch for EternalBlue has been available for 18 months

As for the Indian case,

ET reached out to JA Chowdary, IT advisor to the chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, about the malwareaffected websites on September 10. Thanks for notifying us about the AP website hacking, said Chowdary in a response to the alert. Mails and calls to AP IT secretary Vijay Anand remained answered.

However, as on September 16, the websites continue to run the scripts

This is pure incompetence!!!

17  Economy / Economics / Re: Reliable lending in blockchain ecosystem on: September 21, 2018, 02:16:48 PM
As alouin said, there are so many ways to forge the ownership of the collateral in those cases it will simply not work.
To the points he made, let's add another one, what if I crash the car?  Grin

And even if all those are not happening, if we forget how BTCJam ended, let's say the guys can't pay up and you have the rights to that asset. You know how lengthy the process will be? You can't simply walk and take that care even if your contract was legalized, you will need a judge to seize that.

Why do you think banks don't deal with this kind of assets and only pawn shops are doing this at outrageous rates?

People should really stop believing everything can be done with the blockchain and some tokens. Nope, it can't!!!

18  Other / Meta / Re: LoyceV's deMerit source application on: September 21, 2018, 01:01:06 PM
we are going to end with the same controversy we have with the trust system. And we all know how many sides are waging war on that front.


As I was saying.... Cheesy

To be honest I am not agree with demerit system. I don't believe that merit could be send by mistake. It's not same as Facebook like that could be press by mistake. During meriting time there is new tab, that means you are fully aware that you are going to merit someone. On the other hand once you are meriting someone you are meriting on post, you are not consider a person. Same thing for others people also. Say someone merited me on a post,  but in case after few days if they aren't agree with me for any reason than may be some one will think I will demerit my merit

I think that less than 0.1% of the merit was sent by mistake, usually with that back page bug but the focus of the demeriting should not be on posts that have been merited and did not deserve it.

The main target should be the shitposts, like the ones here: Wall of fame / shame.

19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Mining Really Causing Environmental Damage? Maybe not that much... on: September 21, 2018, 12:47:02 PM
So franky:

firstly. where are you even getting the idea about guy travelling up to 100th floor
where are you getting the idea about energy excersion of me lifting a cup to my lips to drink own pee
where are you getting the idea of pumping water upstream to fill reservoirs...

I never said to pump water up to fill the reservoirs
I was strictly talking about efficiency in your golden example.

Rather than recycling the water that guy will eliminate from the x floor, it's more efficient to let him pee at the entrance than having the elevator carrying him with the extra weight.

but instead of stopping the river. using the water once and then let it travel un reused. to just give it to the sea.
the idea is to have more dams downstream to then reuse the water as it travels...DOWNSTREAM

by the way its not a problem of physics.. but cost and bureaucracy of digging holes concreting walls and displacing residents in the way.

Franky, let's stick to the Danube since I've brought this up.
The Danube drops 32 meters from the Iron gates in 1000 km.
You will have to dig 20 times more earth than the Panama canal to create a dam and deepen the river bed to make the water flow to the sea after the new dam. Not even talking about what will happen to the ports water pumping stations that are going to have to lift water from 30 -20 meter deeper for the population

You're going to spend more energy doing that than the powerplant will produce in a millennium

the reason the danube doesnt have more dams is because politicians wont allow it as it then stops boats travelling upstream
it seems transporting goods up river is more important then making walls to make electricity down river

You're not familiar with how things are in Europe.  Grin
The Canal de la Marne au Rhin has no more than 154 locks, one every 2 km  Cheesy

Switching to hashrate

now if the price goes down below the $6k he is paying.. he actually thinks.. well there is no point buying new equipment this week. but i can buy btc on the market below $6k. and actually turn off some rigs. meaning they can renegotiate the electric allotment they have not used this week. to be allowed to be used at the 53rd week

now if the price rises. they are not forced to do anything... they can all just mine at the same rate. and spend their profits investing in other businesses (yep they do that)
or replace thir rigs with less costly equipment. so that they can let the energy companies give them a few extra weeks extension at the end of the year because they didnt need to use it during the year...

Everything is right if we consider this a close game.
But when the price goes up, so does the number of miners, which start with new equipment and new costs.

if mining is at a 43terrahash month minimum.. ($5800 at per btc mining COST) (i done the math it works out. its in my post history if your bored)

If you really have said something like this....I'm starting to feel disappointed.
You've calculated the costs per BTC? Common!!!

then knowing the btc PRICE is only a bit above that..  so in your mindset. miners in december should have been mining at 120terrahash. because PRICES were 3x so hashrate could/would/should have been 3X 'because they could afford to'

sorry but no. it dont work like that.

you will see miners in the MAJORITY only increase 5-10% as a planned periodic growth. if bitcoin went to $1m a coin in under 2 years. you wont see mining pools jump to network hash of 6.6zetahash overnight (using the metrics of this generations ASICs)($900k)

It didn't because there wasn't any miner left to be sold and added to the network.
Price for miners jumped to even 3000$ for a used s9 first generation in December.
If the price goes x10 in a week miners will not be able to add new gear even if they wanted to, mining equipment is not bread, hasn't the last video card shortage taught you that?
20  Other / Meta / Re: LoyceV's deMerit source application on: September 20, 2018, 06:49:57 PM
The sadist in me would love to see this happening as I can't picture LoyceV abusing this and I'm pretty sure that if he is proven wrong on something he will award back the merit but if we're going to have 10 or 20 sinks (?) around we are going to end with the same controversy we have with the trust system. And we all know how many sides are waging war on that front.

And having a single person with this "power" won't be a much brighter idea either...

Rather than hunting them down, I would really like to see two things implemented:
a) (this was also LoyceV idea, I think!?) an automated system where you either
- lose 1 merit for every 100 or whatever activity if you wear a signature for even a second during an activity period
- you need at least one merit in the last x days to keep your signature active

b) this is going to piss off a lot of people but I would love to see all jr/full/sr/hero or legendary members who haven't earned a single merit since the system was implemented without the possibility of displaying a signature

After all, legendary and heroes were supposed to have earned their rank with the hundreds of worthy posts made before the system was introduced. So what's the difference between a newbie who made 1000 posts and has not earned a single merit and a hero member who has also done 1000 posts in the same timeframe with the same results Grin?

Don't worry about it, I'm in no rush, and I have hundreds if not thousands of spammers helping me to convince theymos Cheesy

 Grin Grin Grin
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