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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TRESTOR - The Most Efficient Money, Payment And Market System In The World on: July 08, 2015, 07:03:18 PM

Our Retail Partners allow you to buy and sell Trests in locations all over the world.


Please provide one example of a retail partner that advertises their prices on their website, transparently.


With Trests there are no transaction fees, all the coins you mentioned do have transaction fees. Transactions take an average of 10 seconds to confirm, which is also a +.
Furthermore, with Trestor there is no mining required to protect the network which is a big waste of energy, and possibly unsustainable.

There are no transaction fees because there is no security in ensuring that the digital ledger stays the same. What would you do if law enforcement told you to reverse a transaction since 'terrorists' owned trests and were using them?

When you skip that big waste of energy you refer to, there are tradeoffs. I'll pass thanks.

I think you are misunderstanding how trestor works exactly. Since anyone can run a node, a transaction cant simply be reversed without the majority of the network agreeing on it

OK, but there's no incentive to run a node unless perhaps you are a business that buys and sells Trests. Since any such business depends upon Trestor (owner of ~all Trests currently) then it's in their best interest to support anything Trestor does. If Trestor is served with an order to reverse or suppress a transaction, they'll have no choice but to obey.

I didn't see the reversibility of transactions in the Trestor whitepaper, they're using a Proof of Stake blockchain which like any blockchain creates a permanent record of transactions.

If Trestor was 'served with an order to reverse or suppress a transaction' then this is no different than Ripple - which currently owns all the nodes.

There is no monetary incentive to set up a node, but according to the TNet documentation it would seem that a university would be interested in setting up a node so they can be a relay point to pass messages to other nodes.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TRESTOR - The Most Efficient Money, Payment And Market System In The World on: July 07, 2015, 08:55:11 PM
Interesting article in Cointelegraph.
I am looking forward to understanding more about the consensus in Trestor

"By October 1, Trestor Network will primarily be powered by academic institutions, running full Trestor nodes across the globe. Our consensus is not PoW [proof of work] or PoS [proof of stake], or Ripple/Stellar. Our process takes the best of proof of stake and the Ripple/Stellar-type voting-based mathematical guarantees, and merges the two ideas to create a new network consensus system. We call this “asymmetric proof of stake” (aPoS)."

Kudos to the team for opensourcing the code on Github https://github.com/Trestor/trestor-crypto-ObjectiveC
3  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Share Your Reaction GIFs and Win Clef Swag on: May 14, 2015, 03:53:42 AM
thanks for sharing my GIF <3 glad I showered that day
4  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: April 09, 2015, 07:16:05 PM
started using Clef and noticed that the app logs me out of everything when I'm asleep - it's a good feature and yea I know I should log out of everything when I leave the site but apparently I forget.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OFFICIAL THREAD] FACTOM - Offchain transactions + Factom Blocks on: April 01, 2015, 01:34:33 AM
Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.

Factoids are using a protocol to transact on Bitcoin's PoW network, but it is true that Factom will not be using 'bitcoin the currency'.

Entry credits are like IOU's in the Factom network, a fixed value against the floating value of Factoids.

Factom has its own consensus model which is explained in the whitepaper here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomDocs/raw/master/FactomLedgerbyConsensus.pdf

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SOFTWARE SALE LIVE] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: April 01, 2015, 01:23:56 AM
Factoids are going to be exchanged for Entry Credits to use the Factom network
Entry Credits will be a fixed value
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Factoid - The Software Token For The Factom Network on: March 31, 2015, 07:08:07 PM


They are helping us in different parts of the world. The world is big Wink
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What justifies the devs getting 30% of the coin in addition to the IPO?
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idk scam same as ripple
but send btc because of hype like i sent.
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Uh. NO Ripple didn't even accept BTC and they also didn't have a token sale.

Factom actually has code! It's not hype so don't know where you got the idea from.
8  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: March 10, 2015, 09:31:34 PM
I'm thinking about integrating Clef with a bitcoin exchance i'm going to launch.
Exchanges are a thing of the past.. Only scammers do them noone will trsut you

are you serious? you're saying auctions are better then, as you are promoting an auction in your signature and yet bashing exchanges. This is unrelated to the thread topic anyways.
9  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: March 09, 2015, 11:40:38 PM
This is incredible security project which recently the security is most important for all website service. I hope it will implemente to exchanger bitcoin which a susceptible from hacking attack.


~iki

I believe the Clef team is actively interested in working with Bitcoin Exchanges, if you know of any please post here
10  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: March 09, 2015, 11:31:33 PM
I think the OP needs to outline the business model of Clef. How do you guys pay for all the servers and bandwidth? How do you guys pay for the technical and support staff?

“Clef, an Oakland-based two-factor authentication solution that uses Apple’s fingerprint reader rather than passwords, has raised $1.6 million in seed funding from Morado Ventures and individual angel investors. www.getclef.com
http://fortune.com/2014/11/19/term-sheet-nov-19/
11  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: March 01, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Clef makes it easy to replace passwords. For example rather then going to login to bitstamp with your username, password, and then 2fa, you can just login using your phone. It is quick and easy.
Bitstamp would need to add the clef plugin.. And trust the central server...

Can this not be done trustlessly? I mean we are on bitcointalk right?

Any 2FA system should be trustless and open source.
i dont think this one is

Not every 2FA system is trustless nor open source. Google Auth and Authy are certainly not.

Clef documentation outlines they don't hold any private keys. The private key is kept on your phone and only the public key is shared with the Clef server to authenticate the OAuth handshake.

http://docs.getclef.com/v1.0/docs/authenticating-users

So they can lure in open source projects and then jack the rates up at will or sell information they gather to seo's? Ya sure


Lure in open source projects? Not sure where that came from as it's purely a 2FA alternative to whats already out there. Atleast they don't share your information without permission.

It's free for users unless you're a website owner.
They get usage analytics -

Projects in Bitcoin that are using it currently:
Koinify.com
Betmoose.com


"Clef does not share personally identifiable information with third parties without your permission. When you register at a new site that integrates Clef, we will notify you of what information the site requires and you must give permission in order for us to share it. Once you approve, the other site owns that information and we are not responsible for their use.

Clef does not sell, rent, or lease its customer lists to third parties.

Clef keeps track of websites users log in to using Clef. Any information you provide on those sites is shared with the owner of that site and subject to their privacy policy. Our privacy policy does not apply to such sites, and we are not responsible for the content or privacy and security practices and/or policies of those sites."

https://getclef.com/privacy/
12  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: March 01, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Clef makes it easy to replace passwords. For example rather then going to login to bitstamp with your username, password, and then 2fa, you can just login using your phone. It is quick and easy.
Bitstamp would need to add the clef plugin.. And trust the central server...

Can this not be done trustlessly? I mean we are on bitcointalk right?

Any 2FA system should be trustless and open source.
i dont think this one is

Not every 2FA system is trustless nor open source. Google Auth and Authy are certainly not.

Clef documentation outlines they don't hold any private keys. The private key is kept on your phone and only the public key is shared with the Clef server to authenticate the OAuth handshake.

http://docs.getclef.com/v1.0/docs/authenticating-users
13  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: February 27, 2015, 10:59:28 PM
Interesting - didnt hear about Jolla phones before this but found that they use Sailfish OS:

"Sailfish OS has the in-built capability to run Android™ apps on your Jolla. So you can continue using your favourite apps like Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter as well as downloading all the latest ones via the Yandex and Aptoide Stores and other Android™ marketplaces."

As the Clef app is on Android, it would appear to work on Jolla - curious about this, please post here if this works for you
14  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Clef is secure two-factor authentication with no passwords or tokens on: February 23, 2015, 11:17:03 PM
I like that Clef is using Public / Private key crypto for 2FA -
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 08, 2015, 08:00:16 PM
Cyprus did not cause the April 2013 rally. I don't know why everyone thinks that... Also, Greece isn't going to impact bitcoins price.

correct. I keep pointing it out myself, but people don't listen to reason a lot these days.

I don't know why everyone thinks that...

I do: people like a good simple story.There's a part of the brain that is responsible for making sense of everything (after the fact). It's a lazy bastard.

I'm beginning to suspect human history looks a lot different from what is depicted in history books. Maybe we should start putting stuff into blockchains (or _the_ blockchain) so it can't be changed later... is that what factom is doing, btw?


yes factom is hashing for proof of existence
using the blockchain

doesn't the initial insertion/verification of the factom data into the blockchain introduce a centralized, potentially corruptible, weak point in the system?




regarding the centralized, potentially corruptible, weak point in the system that inserting data into the blockchain presents- this is potentially true if we were to take raw data - however, Factom only inserts a hash into the blockchain, not the data itself.
16  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 08, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
Cyprus did not cause the April 2013 rally. I don't know why everyone thinks that... Also, Greece isn't going to impact bitcoins price.

correct. I keep pointing it out myself, but people don't listen to reason a lot these days.

I don't know why everyone thinks that...

I do: people like a good simple story.There's a part of the brain that is responsible for making sense of everything (after the fact). It's a lazy bastard.

I'm beginning to suspect human history looks a lot different from what is depicted in history books. Maybe we should start putting stuff into blockchains (or _the_ blockchain) so it can't be changed later... is that what factom is doing, btw?


yes factom is hashing for proof of existence
using the blockchain
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] COINIGY High-Definition Charting & Trading Platform Trade on All Exchanges on: February 02, 2015, 07:47:22 PM
coinigy charts and dashboard is the best
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Colored Coins is back on: January 30, 2015, 04:05:41 AM
Colored coins will have a standardized protocol
From one of the original Colored Coins co-founders, there is a team based in Tel Aviv working on formalizing the original Colored Coins project.

"Colu’s app is now in beta, Mr. Meiri said. It is opening up its API to be used by other apps. Colu’s tokens are based on a protocol Mr. Meiri and other team members developed several years ago called Colored Coins, which itself is layered on top of bitcoin."

Tech Crunch: http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/27/colu-aims-to-bring-blockchain-technology-everywhere/

Colored Coins on Bitcoin Wiki: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Colored_Coins

on Stack Exchange: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5695/what-are-colored-coins

Colored Coins Website: http://coloredcoins.org/
19  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] The Official Thread for COLU a Colored Coins protocol API on: January 29, 2015, 07:02:28 AM
"Meiri is also a leading influence behind the recently relaunched Colored Coins foundation, a membership body representing startups experimenting with the technology including ChromaWallet, CoinPrism and CoinSpark."

++
Glad to hear things are progressing with Colored Coins
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OFFICIAL THREAD] FACTOM - Offchain transactions + Factom Blocks on: January 29, 2015, 12:23:53 AM
Factom doesn't do anything. What's taking so long to release?

It's coming along - test net is in the works and the code is here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomCode

They have hashed the guternberg bible here as a demo for proof of existence: http://demo.factom.org:8087/sentry/c6a13c0be18440f3de7bfdebdd7e58c45b46b902d94b5f0aae073693e2c5f8f5


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