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41  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Blockchain Visualization in Color on: October 13, 2014, 03:36:11 AM


http://colorblockchain.com/
42  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Holiday Calendar 2015 on: October 12, 2014, 12:03:48 AM
10,000 btc pizza day is a good one!

Vitalik's bday isn't on Wiki Bitcoin History lol

Does anyone want to do this?
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Holiday Calendar 2015 on: October 11, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
We need a Bitcoin Holiday Calendar, what do you think?

Thought it would be great to have one when I heard someone talking about Halloween today, I was like wtf who cares about Halloween! The price of Bitcoin is around $300!!

Tongue

It would have to include:

Silk Road
Mt Gox
Vitalik's birthday

Anything else?
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ║ANN║GRID║GridBit║ Decentralized Grid Storage ║ Launching soon! ║ X13 POW + POS! on: August 16, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
This project isn't anywhere near Storj and we have no idea who these people are.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 PoW / PoS Hybrid | 5% Stake | Anti-ASIC on: July 14, 2014, 01:25:59 AM
are there any blue mining contracts for sale?
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Innovative ALT Crypto Currencies And Decentralized Apps/Companies/Funds on: June 20, 2014, 02:05:46 AM
amazing list
glad i stumbled upon it today
thank you for mentioning swarm and api coin

you could start a wiki!
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Swarm? on: June 20, 2014, 01:52:13 AM
I have a feeling Swarm might fund Ethereum as a decently largish part of their portfolio. Anyone else get that feeling? I feel like that will be one of the bigger projects Swarm funds.

After thinking about it more, this seems like the best crowd funding option in the crypto world to date. Diversification in different assets is good, so I like that they set the goal really high as far as the amount of money that they are raising, so they can really spread the money around. The only thing is that it misses out on is previous IPOs, but I don't see that as a big deal. If you are interested in something that's already closed the IPO you could just buy it.

If they reach their goal, that will be a ton of money going into decentralized applications. I am really liking this idea!

I think Bitshares AGS is worth looking into as well, it is very similar to Swarm. I particularly like their keyhotee (SP) project, but there are other good ones as well. It is kind of nice with Bitshares, you can already see what projects they have going, there are many listed in their decentralized applications subforums. Although there is no reason why they couldn't also fund things like Ethereum.

Hey these are great points, we have an official swarm thread located here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653568.40
Please join us
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCING] XAP coin - Open-Source the Internet - API Marketplace on: June 20, 2014, 12:27:16 AM

Hello Jake - it seems that you are viewing this as a securities issuance, and although it is kind of you to reference the sec website - it is not an accurate reflection of the XAP coin.

If we are comparing apples to apples, then this would be more applicable: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/subscriptions/cc137104.aspx


Jake,

Thanks for the post. You are welcome to your opinion. I'll be working hard to make the API Network delivers lots of features that provide value to developers.

Then we disagree that this is a "raise".

The project is selling access to software. That's part of why there is a notice on the site to try and make that clear.

From the API Network Website:
"1. Participation in the API Network / XAP crowdsale will not provide you with a "security" or "equity" stake in this project. The digital token known as XAP is only useful for accessing the API Network software when its development is complete."

I appreciate your concern and I'll redouble my efforts to be transparent with the community in every project I decide to invest in and take part in.

I honestly believe this model of crowdsales can be really positive for the community and building new technology.

David A. Johnston



You're simply wrapping another fraudulent raise in clean sheets.

Time and the SEC will tell.  I suspect that within 2 years you will see major jail-time for this, and by that time the crypto community will have caught on to the scam.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread on: June 20, 2014, 12:20:03 AM

"10s of Millions of dollars in new Mastercoin fundraisers"  lol.  

MaidSafe raised $6million in 5 hours when people believed in MasterProtocol.   

API Network raised 27 bitcoin - about $13,000 in the first 5 hours of their fundraising event. 
XAP https://blockchain.info/address/12Stz3hoF1sY9J12GyMhsAGBa16vWrmufG

I guess people aren't interested in going for this kind of scam a second time?  Maybe they'd rather get fucked by their wives rather than MasterProtocol this time?



Bear in mind that the API Network launch did not accept Mastercoin as part of the crowdsale, your comment is not accurate.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] OFFICIAL SWARM THREAD - GET SWARM COIN TO LAUNCH YOUR IDEAS on: June 20, 2014, 12:05:03 AM
There's a lot of feedback here and we should keep in mind that the people behind this project are known to the community, and they are not scammers.

When we evaluate the budget breakdown - which we should be thankful that this was even shared, it is not uncommon for startups to pay their employees a high starting salary. This is very common in many parts of the world to secure top talent. I live in Canada and reached this salary bracket during my corporate career in tech when I was 25.

The numbers reflect the magnitude of this project and the amount of effort required to see it through.

As Ben the COO of Swarm explains, they have bootstrapped this project.




This screams scam from the highest reaches of planet Earth.


Why are you the only person who sounds logical in this entire thread?

1000 BTC just for salaries? (1000 * ($600 * BTC)) = $600,000
So... I guess you are paying 10 people 60k a year salaries? for a startup?
what? you have less than 10 people? now thats interesting, how much are you expecting as a salary?
Are you expecting to secure salaries for multiple years? Oh wouldn't that be nice!
Do you understand the concept of bootstrapping?
To successfully start a business you should be asking for ONLY WHAT YOU NEED.
What are your bills? $2000 a month? why should you expect any more than $24,000 a year? to start a business that is going to pay you? If you need $24,000 a year, why are you asking for $600,000?
Where is the breakdown?

People I could hire two programmers and build a crowdfunding platform, release a copycoin that it runs on and still not spend over $100,000. There seems to be $500,000 unaccounted for or severely mismanaged.

Please think before you invest. There are a lot of problems with this picture.

51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCING] XAP coin - Open-Source the Internet - API Marketplace on: June 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
there are real people behind this project.
its certainly not a scam and the development team building the project are looking to this crowdsourcing campaign to help make it possible
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCING] XAP coin - the one coin to unite them all, launches June 18th on: June 18, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
all you have is a white paper and a little code, and you are trying to raise $5m? you really need some luck

thanks - we appreciate the feedback from the community and want to answer all the questions coming to us, the API network will be using the technology developed by engine.co and opensourcing it

We also have a strong team made up of people who are interested in seeing the potential for this project realized
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCING] XAP coin - the one coin to unite them all, launches June 18th on: June 18, 2014, 04:55:19 PM
Man, buyxap.com is still down, what happened?

we just updated the website with the BTC address, it is working now and please feel free to join this chatroom for live support and questions about the crowdsale: https://www.hipchat.com/gFP0CCs4O
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So, is this SwarmCoin IPO that's just about to start, legit? on: June 16, 2014, 10:22:37 PM
its a legit company, started by people known in crypto
www.swarmcorp.com
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SWARM project will be livestreaming its crowdsale launch! Monday 6/16 8pm Berlin on: June 16, 2014, 10:01:18 PM
anyone else tuning in?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] OFFICIAL SWARM THREAD - GET SWARM COIN JUNE 17TH on: June 16, 2014, 09:59:07 PM
the official swarm thread is waiting for your up votes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Swarming/
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [CROWDSALE] 3M XAP Coin released starting June 18th - July 18th on: June 16, 2014, 07:52:54 PM
Git hub: https://github.com/APINetwork/personal-data-module
Protocol Spec: https://github.com/APINetwork/ProtocolSpec
How we run: https://github.com/DavidJohnstonCEO/CrowdsaleBestPractices#crowdsalebestpractices
Slidedeck: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw_D-1wK1JG_SWNpa3dCV0NoU1U/edit?usp=sharing


When can you buy XAP coin:
Wednesday, June 18 - July 18
buyxap.com

58  Bitcoin / Project Development / Preparing for Alpha stage- the Xap coin combines Bitcoin + Mastercoin + Maidsafe on: June 16, 2014, 07:41:54 PM
This is a thread to share with the community whats going on with the XAP coin, for anyone interested contributing to the API Network, and what proprietary technology we are open sourcing with the crowdsale launching on Wednesday 6/18 at 11AM CT

The constantly being improved protocol and whitepaper is here: https://github.com/APINetwork/ProtocolSpec
The Git for the engine is here: https://github.com/APINetwork/personal-data-module

www.apinetwork.co
www.buyxap.com

Thoughts?
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCING] XAP coin - the one coin to unite them all, launches June 18th on: June 16, 2014, 06:18:58 PM
strange - whitepaper link not working.

Please use: https://github.com/APINetwork/ProtocolSpec

We've just updated the url and are in the process of updating our links, thanks for the post!
60  Economy / Economics / How to have a crowdsale - best practices and lessons from Maidsafe on: June 16, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
CrowdsaleBestPractices
Crowdsale Best Practices "Let The Market Decide"


Location of post: https://github.com/DavidJohnstonCEO/CrowdsaleBestPractices#crowdsalebestpractices

TLDR:
Future crowdsales are adopting the state-of-the-art characteristics of rewarding multiple demographics, a 30 day time window, capped numbers of tokens, and single currency pricing, but are also seeking to improve on this model by letting the market decide the price of their application’s digital tokens during a crowdsale using a sales volume based pricing model.

Brief History of Crowdsales
The market serves as the ultimate judge of value and price.

With this in mind, let's consider the lessons we can take when it comes to interacting with the market in the realms of selling software, specifically in using the crowdsale model.

Recently crowdsales of digital tokens that access software applications have become an increasingly popular option for entrepreneurs and developers to gain users and supporters for their projects.

J.R. Willett held one of the first crowdsales in August 2013 when he was developing a protocol for smart property and a decentralized exchange built on top of the Bitcoin Protocol. This project would later be known as the, Metadata Archival by Standard Transaction Embedding Records Protocol or simply the MASTER Protocol AKA Mastercoin.

J.R.’s crowdsale went on for a period of 30 days and raised more than 4,700 bitcoins (which were priced at the time around $100 each at the time). 91% of the new digital tokens (MSC) went to the crowdsale participants and 9% went to a core developer pool.

This first successful use of the crowdsale model on top of the Bitcoin Protocol attracted many others to emulate it including, Counterparty, ProtoShares, and NXT just to name a few.

Each project has tried a different model of selling digital tokens. For example, Countryparty burned the bitcoin contributions made to their generation address, and ProtoShares held an extended daily auction process for a period of 6 months.

The proposed distribution pattern of digital tokens has also moved away from primarily rewarding the crowdsale participants, to that of rewarding multiple demographics such as miners, third party developers, core developers, and others that add value to these applications. This was evident in the MaidSafe crowdsale where the majority (70%) of their tokens will flow to “farmers” that provide storage space to the SAFE Network and then smaller pools of tokens for core developers (10%), and third party developers (10%) and finally the crowdsale participants (10%).

MaidSafe was also innovative in being one of the first crowdsales to take multiple crypto currencies including bitcoin and mastercoin. However, it proved difficult to avoid arbitragers seeking to take advantage of either price or liquidity differences between the two currencies.

The State of the Art
With this history in mind, we come to the present and the state of the art when it comes to structuring a crowdsale of software for digital tokens. This state of the art can be described broadly as including:

Rewarding multiple demographics, such as, core developers, third party developers, resource providers, crowdsale participants, and even users who are adding to the network effect of the application.

Projects are focusing in on the 30-day time window as the best timeframe for holding a crowdsale (as was demonstrated before by Kickstarter).

Many projects have opted for a capped number of total digital tokens available in their crowdsale and that will ever exist in their protocol. This is primarily in order to give the participants in the crowdsale the ability to judge the price of what they are purchasing.

Many projects seem to be opting for accepting a single currency (bitcoin) during the period of their crowdsale in order to avoid issues with arbitrageurs pushing around the prices of the digital tokens involved in the crowdsale. Though it is worth adding that technical solutions for holding multi digital token crowdsales have been proposed for both the Master Protocol and Counterparty, however they have not yet been demonstrated in practice.

Future Models for Crowdsales
Future crowdsales are adopting the state of the art characteristics of rewarding multiple demographics, a 30 day time window, capped numbers of tokens, and single currency pricing, but are also seeking to improve on this model.

Two near future examples of this are SWARM (June 17th) & API Network June 18th).

http://www.swarmcorp.com/

http://www.apinetwork.co/

Both projects are rewarding a variety of demographics, have 30-day time windows, have a capped numbers of tokens, and single currency pricing, but both also include a new innovation in the way the price of their tokens is determined. That is, both projects have opted to let the market decide the proper price of their tokens. They are accomplishing this by setting a wide range of prices for their tokens during the crowdsale determined by the volume of bitcoin that is collected.

Firstly, for example the API Network is offering API Coins (XAP) at a rate of 1.6 mBTC per XAP for the first 500 bitcoins worth of sales. The price increases to 2.13 mBTC per XAP during the sale of the next 1,000 bitcoins worth of XAP. The price then increases to 2.66 mBTC per XAP during the sale of the next 2,000 bitcoins worth of XAP. Lastly, the price increases to 3.12 mBTC per XAP during the sale of the last 4,692 bitcoins worth of XAP.

Secondly, for example with SWARM if you participated in their early part of their crowdsale you would gain 5,250 SWARM coins per bitcoin you send in. This rate of SWARM declines the more bitcoin collected until four thousand BTC are collected and the price increases to 4,250 SWARM per bitcoin. This generation process could continue all the way until twenty one thousand bitcoin are collected and the generation rate falls to 3,750 SWARM per bitcoin.

It is worth noting that neither the SWARM team or the API Network team expect to collect the maximum number of bitcoins by selling out all of their tokens (though it is possible if demand has been radically underestimated). Instead, both project have set a range of price points and are leaving it up to the market to decide the proper price of SWARM and API Coins (XAP). If the market decides these projects are highly valued, than the price of the coins will reach a higher level during the crowdsale. Conversely, if the market decides that these projects are not as highly valued, than the price of the coins will not rise as high during the crowdsale. Either way the pricing of these tokens is for the market to determine.
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