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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Solo Mining Scrypt Coin on: January 18, 2022, 06:11:26 PM
Recommended CPU Mining on NENG in PC/Phone - Dual Mining

The below discord channel recent conversation touched on NENG CPU/Mobile mining best practice and profitability

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raeZur logic 01/15/2022
@honglu69 - thank you - I've been CPU mining with the cheetah_cpuminer on neng - but noticing that it is not really mining all that much - not like CHTA - so wondering if I should just abandon the idea - if it's not really worth CPU mining. Is the ideal blocktime 1 min or what? I have my cpuminer interval set at 240s.. should I adjust it?
honglu69 01/15/2022
for CPU mining NENG, yes, the reward is much less.  The current recommended approach is "dual mining" both NENG + CHTA, so the main profit is CHTA, NENG is extra.  There are reasons for NENG profit to be much less. mainly the cheetah effect is much weaker on scrypt,  many cheetah blocks are mined not by CPU, but by ASIC miners on solo or pool mining mode.  100% dedicated CPU mining NENG on PC or phone may not be worth it for now.
the NENG side wait time is 2 minutes,  after two minutes, "cheetah_cpuminer" will kick in and start mining on CPU.  dual mining works because many times the CPU is idle.  It mines NENG while CHTA is idle,  or mines CHTA while NENG is idle on CPU.
interverval is same as CHTA,  say your phone has 8 CPU, here is recommended command in phone for NENG in another screen session:
    python  main.py --interval 10 --cpu 6
8 CPU,  leave 2 CPUs for NENG/CHTA wallet to sync and other system tasks,  use only 6 CPUs for CPU mining NENG.   same command for NENG or CHTA on different folder of  "cheetah_cpuminer".     My neng folder on phone is "cheetah_cpuminer",  my CHTA folder is "cheetah_cpuminer_chta" folder, both run in same phone, on different screen sessions
in rare cases, sometimes both CHTA and NENG are kick in mining together, when that happens, my phone uses 4 CPU mining NENG, 4 CPU mining CHTA, that is OK for short period.  Most of time, they do not mine together, therefore dual mining gets more profit on CPUs on phone or PC.
raeZur logic 01/15/2022
Thank you for the explanation. 🙂
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: January 18, 2022, 04:33:02 PM
why PoW isn't more profitable with a more powerful desktop processor than my phone?
An interesting Q&A in discord on this CPU/mobile mining topic

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Hotaru Today at 1:58 AM
I know this has probably been asked several times, but is there a reason as to why PoW isn't more profitable with a more powerful desktop processor than my phone?

***[1:58 AM]***I can't find an explanation

📷honglu69 Today at 11:18 AM
I am not hardware electrical engineer guru, so this is just my own explanation and observation. It has been reported by so many members, it is true that android phone outperform PCs on CPU mining on CHTA for proof of work mining. On cheetahcoin core level, the mining is mainly about math calculation competition on sha256. No other coins are interested in CPU mining on SHA256. SHA256 is bitcoin mining, and CPU mining on bitcoin has long been dead until CHTA come alive. So we are probably the only coin there focusing on CPU mining on bitcoin's algo. My take is, arm CPU is far superior on SHA256 math calculation than Intel or AMD chips, on CPU level. Check out their differences. arm CPU has different design compared to AMD/Intel, and different philosophy. For now, arm CPU wins on SHA256.

📷honglu69 Today at 12:08 PM
power efficient is one aspect, more than that. less power, more profit. android phone mine more CHTA coins than "equivalent" Intel/AMD PCs. far more.

***[12:09 PM]***Nobody did actual data comparison. I saw one member did both. I only do android phone mining, dual mining CHTA + NENG, I no longer mines on PC, I have no number to speak of.

***[12:10 PM]***The number I saw is "double". Expect double amount of CHTA coins mined when equivalent CPUs on Intel/AMD vs arm64 phone on "cheetah_cpuminer" method.

📷Hotaru Today at 12:14 PM
I see, because I was intrigued when a friend said that their phone mines faster than their PC. He thought it was due to difficulty being reset, although I assume this is false, as both architectures should get affected by this. But do you think it's just the SHA256 hashing process that takes more time? If so, it wouldn't be hard to test this theory, by making hashing functions for both platforms, cross compiling them, and disassembling them and benchmarking the individual instructions (edited)

📷honglu69 Today at 12:15 PM
Yes, I think it is "SHA256 hashing process".
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Solo Mining Scrypt Coin on: January 17, 2022, 06:47:13 PM
SouthXchange added NENG/LTC Trading Pair

Upon request from NENG community through dev support ticket,   Southxchange has added litecoin trading pair today. Here it is:
https://main.southxchange.com/Market/Book/NENG/LTC


Happy Trading NENG!
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DeFi] WrappedNengcoin (WNENG) Launched on: January 05, 2022, 05:14:51 PM
Just got response from SouthXchange support in discord,  all NENG Nengcoin  trading deposit/withdraw are back to normal. withdraw was just allowed on NENG today, confirmed by me.

WNENG Wrapped Nengcoin is normal on trading/withdraw/deposit too.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Solo Mining Scrypt Coin on: January 05, 2022, 08:48:45 AM
need exchange

SouthXchange, active trading there.

Request for allowing wallet withdraw is sent to SXC, still waiting for their decision, hopefully soon. But deposit NENG into SXC, selling NENG for doge, withdraw doge is never a problem for weeks now.  Buying NENG has some issue as the wallet at SXC withdraw is still not allowed to private wallet.  For now, it is headache for buyers, but sellers are fine now for exchange.

Update on Jan 5: Withdraw on NENG is allowed at SouthXchange support
Just got response from SouthXchange support in discord,  all NENG Nengcoin  trading deposit/withdraw are back to normal. withdraw was just allowed on NENG today, confirmed by me.

WNENG Wrapped Nengcoin is normal on trading/withdraw/deposit too.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Solo Mining Scrypt Coin on: January 05, 2022, 06:01:58 AM
First CPU Cheetah Block Mined on Rebased 0.13.3 Alpha Wallet
Today marks major milestone for Nengcoin core code rebasement into litecoin v0.13.3 with CPU internal miner restored. Lots of dev road blocks have been resolved and bugs fixed.

* (1) First patch of restoring internal miner on rebasement failed, it restored SHA256 instead of scrypt from bitcoin core code base. mined cheetah block failed and rejected.

* (2) Second patch code restored scrypt mining replacing SHA256 properly, but mined cheetah blocks were orphaned yesterday. It turns out the alpha code had bugs on parameters which failed to transit the newly mined blocks outside to other nodes.

* (3) The 3rd patch try today has a major success. Using "cheetah_cpuminer", below screen shot is the output of below command:


Code:
~/nengcoin_0.13.3_linux_arm64$ ./nengcoin-cli listtransactions

Below are the two blocks mined in 16 core 64 bits android phone insider Userland app. The top block was the first Cheetah block mined on rebased litecoin/bitcoin 0.13.3 core code base with internal miner restored. The bottom block was second CPU cheetah block mined right after 30 block height .

Block explorer on the first block mined:

http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/d99cef916b45714d91eba5a14011be23cd4a7d78949a3c8f48bd4f6430f9f8fa

Screen shot of the two blocks on the wallet:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nengcoin/comments/rwfpgw/first_cpu_cheetah_block_mined_on_rebased_0133/
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Solo Mining Scrypt Coin on: January 03, 2022, 02:55:22 AM
Dev Update on v0.13.3 rebase Upgrade - 2021/2022 Holiday Weeks

Made a lot of progress on the dev work over the holiday weeks , testing and debugging and coding all are ongoing on the plan based on "Nengcoin dev roadmap 2022".   The current immediate task is to migrate and upgrade Nengcoin core code to bitcoin/litecoin core 0.13.3 version.  The NENG wallet  alpha version  was compiled and is working after rebasing NENG core code into litecoin core 0.13 branch.  Tested so far initially:  NENG blockchain syncing, receiving and sending coins are all working.  You guys can tell that some of nodes have "NengCore0.13.3" version tag which are dev nodes testing there.

Internal wallet mining functions are restored and patched from earlier bitcoin/litecoin versions.   CPU mining on cheetah_cpuminer works, but no block mined yet. The initial patch ported SHA256 mining into Nengcoin.  The current github "rebase0.13" branch as of today port the scrypt algo mining and removed sha256.
Stay tune for more dev updates in the future.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] ZERGPOOL.com - Multialgo, autoexchange, 0.5% fee, 250+ coins on: December 27, 2021, 04:49:19 AM
Cheetahcoin will hard fork on hard fork on height 666136,  the projected hard fork event will happen in second week of Jan 2022.  Please upgrade all your pool wallet to the proper newest version.  Thanks.

The binary for linux download,  x64:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.0
The binary wallet files for linux on arm:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.2
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: December 26, 2021, 08:50:02 PM
Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.3 Released - Chromebook on x64/arm

ChromeOS wallets on x64 / arm platform
Full Version Name: "v1.9.1.0_randomSpike-v1.9.x", shorthand "v1.9.x".

Cheetahcoin v1.9.x released with hard fork on block height 666136

Wallet Files Download with installation scripts required for first time new members:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.3

Web README  Guide on Installation:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/tree/master/doc/Chromebook

For existing chromebook CHTA members,  you can directly download binary files on linux on arm or x64
without need of redoing installation scripts.

Linux arm binary for both Debian or Ubuntu containers:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.2

Linux x64 binary for both Debian or ubuntu containers:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.0



Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.4 Released - Linux Arm Device
Linux wallets for arm (arm64/armhf) devices such as raspberry pi4 are released

Full Version Name: "v1.9.1.0_randomSpike-v1.9.x", shorthand "v1.9.x".

Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.4 released with hard fork on block height 666136

Wallet installation scripts with guide Download:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.4

Web README  Guide on Raspberry Pi4 Installation:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/tree/master/doc/Raspberry_Pi_4


Existing members with linux arm devices like Pi4 can simply download proper linux binary wallet files. However for new members, above download installation scripts are required to do installations.

This is major release and all new and existing Cheetahcoin members are required to upgrade wallet.  The old version of wallet will not sync at the first cheetah block after block height 666136
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: December 24, 2021, 05:07:52 AM
Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.2 Released - Android Wallets on Userland App (arm64/armhf)

Android phone wallets for CPU mining with UserLand App.

Full Version Name: "v1.9.1.0_randomSpike-v1.9.x", shorthand "v1.9.x".

Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.2 released with hard fork at block height  666136


Android with UserLand App (arm64/armhf) step by step wallet installation web guide:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/tree/master/doc/Android_Userland_App


Android with Termux App  scripts and installation web guide:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/tree/master/doc/Android_Termux_App

Android (arm64/armhf) actual binary wallet files which includes the guide text file and installation scripts:

https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.2
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: December 23, 2021, 12:13:39 AM
Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.0 Released - Win/MacOS/Lin Wallets


Full Version Name: "v1.9.1.0_randomSpike-v1.9.x".

Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.0 released with hard fork on block height 666136


Windows and MacOS and Linux (Ubuntu 16) binary wallet files with upgrade instructions:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.0

This is major release and all new and existing Cheetahcoin members are required to upgrade wallet.  The old version of wallet will not sync at the first cheetah block after block height 666136

New Features included in v1.9.x releases:
(1) Expand random spike windows from +- 18 seconds to +- 80 seconds
(2) Spike difficulty will drop from 100G to 20G
(3) Cheetah difficulty will rise from 12 to 36
(4) Minimum Work Bug will also be fixed.



Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.1 Released - 9 Linux Distro on x64

Full Version Name: "v1.9.1.0_randomSpike-v1.9.x".

Cheetahcoin v1.9.1.0 released with hard fork on block height 666136

Installation scripts for  Linux x64 Wallet (Ubuntu/Linux Mint, Debian/MX Linux, Arch/EndeavourOS/Manjaro, Fedora, openSUSE) needed for new members.
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.1

For those who already installed older version of CHTA wallet before,  Linux binary wallet file that works on all distros:
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/tag/v1.9.1.0

This is major release and all new and existing Cheetahcoin members are required to upgrade wallet.  The old version of wallet will not sync at the first cheetah block after block height 666136

New Features included in v1.9.x releases:
(1) Expand random spike windows from +- 18 seconds to +- 80 seconds
(2) Spike difficulty will drop from 100G to 20G
(3) Cheetah difficulty will rise from 12 to 36
(4) Minimum Work Bug will also be fixed.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Scrypt Coin on: December 20, 2021, 08:18:10 PM
Nengcoin Node Selector

You want to find more nodes, or sometimes your connection has too much poor nodes connections and you only want to connect to nearby fast nodes for the purpose of better
result for mining,  here is tool that can help you, developed by our member discord ID @spaces.are.evil :

https://nengcoin-node-selector.vercel.app/
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: December 17, 2021, 02:40:16 AM
Cheetahcoin Node Selector


You want to find more nodes, or sometimes your connection has too much poor nodes connections and you only want to connect to nearby fast nodes for the purpose of better
result for mining,  here is tool that can help you, developed by our member discord ID @spaces.are.evil

https://cheetahcoin-node-selector.vercel.app/
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: December 17, 2021, 02:07:39 AM
Cheetahtool - Multi Wallet Manager


Jorge Borges (discord ID @LETLSkyfall ) developed this awesome GUI software tools that can run on your chrome browser in windows 10 or Linux,
and manage many different CPU miners on android phone/pad, chromebook, linux, PC,  MacOS to view their hashrate on and off, immature/matured coins mined  CHTA coins and send coins to a savings account address.

This cheetah tool is awesome for trouble shoot and manage your CPU mining rewards if you happen to run multiple CPU solo miners on cheetah_cpuminer software across different platforms.  Check out the tool and post questions in discord for support if needed.
Web URL:
http://cheetahtools.online/

15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHTA][ANDROID/CPU/ASIC]Cheetahcoin - a cat meme coin on bitcoin's SHA256 on: December 13, 2021, 03:55:39 AM
Cheetahcoin v1.9.x Hardfork Proposal

Hardfork Proposal to Address Slow Hack Risk.
New Proposed Version:  v1.9.1.0-randomSpike-v1.9.x", short hand v1.9.x.

As usual, the hard fork event will happen during 2 weeks or longer time frame sharing with old version
of wallets. After hard fork event, old version of wallet will not be able to sync to cheetahcoin
blockchain.

Features to be included in this hard fork:
(1) Expand random spike windows from +- 18 seconds to +- 80 seconds
(2) Spike difficulty will drop from 100G to 20G
(3) Cheetah difficulty will rise from 12 to 36
(4) Minimum Work Bug will also be fixed.

* Background on v1.9.x Hard Fork Release
* Difference between SHA256 vs Scrypt
* CHTA ASIC Mining Digital Energy Backed by Real Cost of Energy
* Cheetah Effect is Much Stronger in SHA256 than Scrypt
* Spike Difficulty Lowered using Digibyte as Anchor
* CHTA Cheetah Difficulty Rise 3x as Scaling Solution
* Extra Comments on 2022 Dev Roadmap

Link to full text
https://github.com/ShorelineCrypto/cheetahcoin/releases/download/v1.9.x_proposal/Cheetahcoin_v1.9.x_Harfork_Proposal.pdf
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Scrypt Coin on: December 11, 2021, 09:09:38 PM
Nengcoin New WhitePaper

Nengcoin new community whitepaper was created and released on Dec 2, 2021 in discord. Here is copy on NENG web page:

https://nengcoin.org/knowledgebase/whitepaper-nengcoin/
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DeFi] WrappedNengcoin (WNENG) Launched on: December 09, 2021, 08:30:43 PM
Be careful on trading WNENG
be careful on trading WNENG, Wrapped Nengcoin. Converting WNENG to NENG is usually fine at SXC, 1:1 pegged. However, buying WNNEG is tricky due to the supply shortage at SXC. The price at pancakeswap is decent, close to NENG/DOGE, but make sure check before hand, know what you are doing trading WNENG.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - A Decentralized Multi-Rig Scrypt Coin on: December 09, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
Be careful on trading WNENG
be careful on trading WNENG, Wrapped Nengcoin. Converting WNENG to NENG is usually fine at SXC, 1:1 pegged. However, buying WNNEG is tricky due to the supply shortage at SXC. The price at pancakeswap is decent, close to NENG/DOGE, but make sure check before hand, know what you are doing trading WNENG.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DeFi] WrappedNengcoin (WNENG) Launched on: December 09, 2021, 03:54:42 AM
Just a note here,  both WNENG and NENG are now back online for trading at SouthXchange.  

WNENG Wrapped Nengcoin  liquidity pool at PancakeSwap is back to decent liquidity of $300 USD worth.   The trouble of 51% attack on Nengcoin (NENG) is over.

See the announcements on this issue on Nengcoin (NENG) bitcointalk Ann page here or in reddit.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NENG]Nengcoin - World 1st Mobile Minable Decentralized Coin on: December 07, 2021, 09:11:36 PM
Donation Giveback Event Ended, Community Settlement with SXC
RedRaider10 | [🥉] Posted this NENG Community Annoucement in Discord

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RedRaider10 | [🥉] Today at 11:33 AM

u/NENGsters

Hello Fellow Nengsters!

The donation giveback event has ended. Thank you all who have donated and we appreciate your donation!

The Nengcoin Treasury Fund has raised 585,147,583.581 NENG and the funds will be used for future projects like marketing etc.

Through further communication between Dev Hong and SouthXhchange support, we were notified by SouthXchange support that we had a total loss of 6.3 Billion NENG on this 51% attack event and not 4.25 Billion NENG which we had originally thought because 2.05 billion NENG on the account that Dev Hong personally owns from his prior mining and open market purchase was already deducted from this 4.25 billion NENG loss calculation. Dev Hong gladly agrees to contribute this 2.05 billion NENG to our NENG Treasury Fund to cover the 51% hack loss. We were further notified by SXC support that all other members of NENG community will have no hacking loss on trading/deposit/withdraw on NENG and all the prior trades on NENG are honored by SouthXchange with no roll back.

Now that the SXC event is over we will move forward and make sure no 51% attacks happen in the future with this significant security enhancement of v1.9.x hard fork upgrade.

We want to thank all Nengsters for your patience and understanding throughout this tough period!

As always Happy mining & Trading!

#NENGcandoit!

#NENGtothemoon🚀

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