Hmmm...
Did I wake up my account from slumber just to tell you to remove eeecex from the list?
No... I came here to ASK you to remove the listing. Please.

This account always was, and probably will be so as long as it or myself exists, something that I've used over the years when I feel the need.

As you can see by this screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/qe5S4C7.png
I've used bitcointalk.org a little bit over the years. Since Nov. 18th, 2013 it seems.

In this case, I was compelled to google eeecex as people tend to do, and I found the link that lead here, to my surprise.

And thats my sole intention here, right now.

It's not the biggest deal in the world, and it's totally at your discretion, but we would appreciate it.

As for proving my affiliation? Hmm... Ok. I'll bite.
If you would go to eeecex.com and click the "General Support" link in the footer. It will take you to the facebook support group. You'll find that I have posted a message there (https://illuminatiofmarketing.com/5vV2NfIS2hlg) concerning this thread.

As for eeecex.com being created at the same time as the others. If you mean when the domain was registered? Thats not correct:
eeecex.com -     Created: 2022-01-27 06:39:57 UTC

coinsx.live -       Created: 2022-01-18 12:06:41 UTC
kryptolink.info - Created: 2022-01-08 18:31:33 UTC
cexland.com -    Created: 2022-02-02 19:31:43 UTC

Well shit, I wouldn't be surprised if you can find more. After all, the developer IS in the business of selling the script...
But I will tell you this:
a) I can tell you exactly (in private) who the author is.
b) I can show you some pretty heavy conversations between them and myself
c) I can prove our parting of ways due to the issues we have with both THEM and their software.

Honestly, it hasn't been easy, and this issue here is small compared to what we've had to deal with since the end of last year getting things straightened with tech issues, financing, compliance, the works... We're glad to be rid of the roller-coaster ride with them:
https://imgur.com/QTZQxLW

In any case, I hope you can appreciate the time I've spent here and I look forward to your help.

Thanks

BC

As harsh as it sounds, I'd have to agree.

Not only is there a learning curve to deal with tech issues and compliance laws, but competitors, criminals, opposing industries, and governments are NOT your friends.

And I've found that many so-called "developers" don't seem to care. They just want to make money with a minimally viable products. And MVP is stretching it in some cases.

~BC

Hi,

I certainly wish I had found this thread sooner.

I am Managing Director of projects for Bitcoin Corporation (been on bitcointalk.org for years...)

We would appreciate if you removed https://eeecEx.com from your list here.

When it was 1st started the developer offered two software versions. A stand alone exchange, and a cloud version. The cloud version was less expensive and managed by the developer, but the developer had to be asked to remove all of the generic (cloned?) info from the exchange that was appearing in the script/theme pages. The script never left the developers server/control (that became a point of contention).

And no, at the time, the exchange was NOT open to the public as it was being set up, but it appears that it wasn't hard to find... perhaps someone did a search and google indexed the site based on those common things left in the script (that we too eventually discovered)?

I can personally tell you where to find/buy the exchange script (inbox me), and to be honest with you, it's not worth it, and it's not ready for prime-time. That was learned the hard way. I won't publicly post my eventual opinion about the developer...

eeecEx.com has since moved on to much better software with a much better development team, but has never been, and has no intentions on being anything but a safe and stable trading platform for new and established assets and projects.

And if you look, you'll begin to find that a little work has been, and is going in to this.

Thanks!

PD
BC

Right.

"more than one way to skin a cat".

Yeah, $300 USD wasted, and karma is a bitch to dogs.

So now we're well on our way to developing crypto assets, doing our own ICO's and perhaps a full fledged exchange is around the corner.

Certain people can't show their face (if they even would) in our circles.

BC

Thats fine, but this was about getting a coin made, its about having paid to learn to make coins...

By the way, no answer from him for 12 days.

Eer, you missed answering my PM, from May 02, 2017, 08:45:20 AM - No matter... I'll send you a skype now... :\

Yep, thats a BIG understatement. His skype status remains "away". There goes another "Josh". Hey Josh, you gonna come back and be upset if this thread has gone to hell?

Hey bushstar, I don't need help with a coin, per se... Have somebody over here I had partnered with over here and we wanted to resume the learning project...

does this actually connect to a mining pool and display real stats, or is this one of those fake front ends?

I notice something missing...

Well,

It's always the fear (risk?) of buying anything "lifetime" from an individual and not an on-going company. They may disappear for one reason or another...

Our training was not complete, let alone lifetime. 

Regardless, I do hope that nothing grave has happened to them.

BC


long time no see him online.maybe working on his daily work hardly.

Still no answer anywhere... 

Josh,

where are you, sir?

I have been trying to reach you for months via inbox here and on skype.

I'd like to continue training...

BC

Yes, their behavior says A LOT about them:

- They come here and make a quick comment and make it obvious that they're ignoring most of the inquiries and concerns here - Amateur
- Ignored the support email on Oct. 20th, 2015 asking: "Whats invalid about my bank account?" - Amateur
- Ignored the support email on Oct. 26th, 2015 asking: "Whats invalid about my bank account?" - Amateur
- Ignored the support email on Nov.  6th, 2015 asking: "Whats invalid about my bank account?" - Amateur

I don't have a problem with understanding that it is a private company's right to refuse anyone service, but it's quite disrespectful and shady to collect someone's private/personal information, then LIE and DECEIVE them. Makes me fighting mad.

See, it would be very unprofessional for me to say "I better NEVER see any of your company's key operators come to our company/companies for business once we become a service you might have to rely on. I won't forget the disrespectful treatment".

Someone might say there are more profitable ways to deal with people and companies like this.

#_A_ S _K Josh Garza about Black Magick...

Wish I could "Like" or thumbs-up that statement.

@bobmarley650 - Well, you, like me and other have stupidly given sensitive information to someone insensitive, questionable, and possibly nefarious, so you better do like me and watch your back, be prepared to shoot obvious trespassers and even do some traveling if you end up obviously taken advantage of in some way. There are many Gawminer/Josh Garza types out there.

We even submitted our Bank Statement from a lawful F.D.I.C. insured Bank, along with it's Telephone Number.
They rejected the Document as "This document does not meet the required type". We asked how the Document did not meet "the required type, and they never replied.

Get a load of this:

Your request for Address Information has been rejected. Please resubmit it.
Your request for Financial Institution Verification (Simple - Bank) was accepted!

It's the same Bank!

Why do you guys make of all of this?

Wow. In some jurisdictions thats probably considered "usery".

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u·su·ry
ˈyo͞oZH(ə)rē
noun
the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
interest at unreasonably high rates.
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Oh well, ladies and gentlemen, they win.
Better did they did now than when someone's money was act stake here, right?


Final results start ----------


>  xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
>  SUBJECT: RE: Case #: xxxxxx
> -------------------------
>  OCT 06, 2015 | 0x:16PM PDT
>  xxxxx replied:
>
> Hey xxxxxxxxx,
>
> So you know, we at support didn't run this Q&A and had nothing to do
> with it so we do not know the answer to your question. Im not exactly
> sure what you want here, but we do not accept every borrower who comes
> to BTCjam and looks for a loan. Hope that helps!
>  Cheers,
>
>  xxxxxx
>  BTCJam


To which I replied:

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 04:07

Again, I was simply asking why you were playing deceptive games with my personal information, my time, and the account, thats all.

You guys put me at a grade E, then a grade D, then when I submitted an additional bank account, you said it would take a couple of hours, and last I check (less than 12 hours ago), the rating was still blank, so it as if you're penalizing me for asking. Something me and others would like to know before hand though, because we have to trust you too.

Although you still didn't really answer my question, I get where you're coming from with your reply and I'll just tell everyone that I'm leaving it at that.

Final results end ----------

Well...

Get a load of this. Here is their reply. Actually, it's worse than I thought it would be.

This might be too much info, but combine this with whatever your experience is to come to your own conclusions. I know you are solidifying mine. Perhaps Companies like yours (and GAWMiners/Zenminers - Who has a bunch of our money) send warning signs based on how you treat certain customers.

Of course, now that I'm publicizing this, and this message is totally recognizable by you guys, I won't be surprised if you all out restrict/ban my account. A sure sign of what you were all about from the start.

Why am I doing this? Because I'm not the only one who has been treated like this, and companies like you aren't totally straight about things and you get away with it. And when you fail to keep your end of the bargain you  try to ride on how straight you are when you have not been:


On 2015-10-02 17:32, Support wrote:
> __________________________________
>
> -------------------------
>
>  XXXXXXX XXXXXXX
>  SUBJECT: Recent Webinar
> -------------------------
>  OCT 03, 2015 | 0X:XXPM PDT
>  XXXXXXX replied:
>
> Hello there,
>
> Unfortunately I do not have access to who was blocked or not from the
> WEBNAR. Unfortunately I will not be able to help you on that. Thank
> you!
>
> -------------------------
>
> How satisfied were you with the assistance we provided today? [1] |
> [2] | [3] | [4]
> -------------------------
>  OCT 01, 2015 | 02:34AM PDT
>  Original message
>  XXXXXXX wrote:
>
> From your recent "Webinar", I have users contact me about why you guys
> blocked me from asking questions.
>
> I explained to them that I asked "Why my account was given "E" raiting
> (now it's D) in your system when I (I represent a corporation) gave
> ALL of my LEGITIMATE and LEGAL United States of America personal
> information.
>
> Your competitors (including LoanBase (Bit Lending Club) check and
> accepted EVERY piece of my information (I have proof if you like) and
> found it to be in order, so I've concluded that your rating of me MUST
> be personal. I don't know if it's my color, where I live, or what, but
> as an adult, I have used the SAME information to establish and
> maintain BANKING and STOCK TRADING relationships, but I'm not good
> enough for your service? That wreaks of discrimination! And when it
> comes to dealing with money, I will not hesitate to warn others.
>
> You claim to hold users of your system to high standards and I feel
> its only fair that you be held to high standards yourself, and
> discrimination is unacceptable in the global financial community.
>
> XXXXXXX
>
> P.S. This is well beyond believing any generic, canned "We reviewed
> your information" reply. My information was specific, long standing,
> and vetted and verifiable FAR BEFORE YOUR COMPANY CAME ON THE SCENE.
>
> -------------------------
>


And to them I replied:

You side stepped the real issue, which is "Whats going on with the treatment", of me and my account that is.

I wasn't asking you to look in to who blocked me.

And nonsense, you know EXACTLY who blocked me. THE PERSON WHO WAS SITTING THERE ON THE SCREEN, READING, SCANNING, AND SCREENING THE QUESTIONS IN OUR FACES.

Perhaps I'll get a more sensible answer over at what seems to be your public support thread at bitcointalk.org?

Ok.

------------------------------

And my rating is STILL blank.

That's been my concern too!

What really concerns me is how I uploaded all of my personal information to this btcjam, which include government I did and paper work, verifiable institutional, and social media connections and yet they kept me at a E rating since August 2014. I uploaded the EXACT same information to bit lending club and was approved (and in good standing).

I submitted the following aged accounts:
Google               1131565457397130xxxxx
facebook           1000059108xxxxx
ebay                   nY+sHZ2PrBmdj6wVnY+sEZ2PrA2dj6wxxxxx
twitter           21694xxxxx
localbitcoins   bitcoinCorporation
Coinbase           5094e13096c42002000xxxxx
Localbitcoins   bitcoinCorporation
Postal Mail from the government
Bank Account/s


And a couple of things more. I've had and actively used these accounts for years, and yet btcjam gave me an E rating? So after over a year, I asked... ONE question in yesterdays "webinar". I simply asked "How come I have an E rating on your system and your competitor approved me and ALL info is the same?" BOOM. They blocked me! WOW.

After the webinar I went to the site to send a support message. I logged in, left a support email explaining the situation again and that some others contacted me wondering too. I noticed that my rating was now D, so, thinking perhaps something might have been broken before, I submitted ANOTHER bank account to which the system responded that my rating would be upgraded in a couple of hours. It's been 20 hours now and my rating is STILL BLANK! ?

Does this have something to do with the support message I  left? Yes, I voiced my concern that Btcjam.com makes me feel as if they might be discriminating on something that has nothing to do with verification, credit and ability to re-pay when all other things are equal to anyone else. Lets face it, people do, but hardly ever admit it. I'm sure that IF I get a reply thats it will say thats not the case and will probably claim some type of analysis or cryptic algorithm. PppppppPpp. Right.

I just wish that I hadn't even bothered in the 1st place because I feel like a sucker, putting all of my information in yet ANOTHER damned database of some company that I don't but claims to be better than my library, all my banks, the department of motor vehicles, any place I ever work, car rental agencies and places I've rented.

And after reading the messages here (during the composition of this post) I realize that I've been shut down after throwing away something thats been very precious to me for many many years (my privacy) while not enough effort was put in to stopping real thieves.

All this to say, my biggest concerns WAS confusion/disagreement with giving me an E rating, but now I really don't like ANYONE having all of my personal (private) information and then BLOCKING me and my ONE respectfully asked question in a webinar as if it were a forbidden subject and I was not worthy of an answer (not even in private after the question).

The cryptcurrency (digital currency in general) arena sure can make you pay dues that have you questioning just how much you can stand...

Hi Worth, good to hear from you. Yeah, josh all but scolded me for posting that here, but I explained to him that I wasn't trying to make him look like a scammer and that I thought it was important to tell it like it easy. Keeps things going in the direction they need to be going in when dealing with time and money, ya know?


Ok, I've been super busy, as usual, and I'll shoot you a PM soon.


See! See how good a little chit-chat can be? Now someone else knows that they weren't being ignored. Something good came out of my post.

Hello,
This is in reference to the above message.

Just wanted to follow up by saying that we finally began our training on Thursday, 9:30am!

I thought that this might be a training session or course fully delivered at once and gone through step by step and then followed up with supplemental support. But I have since learned that it is handled similar to attending classes over a period of time. So far I have learned to create an X11 Coin Wallet, and we're moving on to the Genesis Block and delving in to making a new Block Chain.

Josh tends to be like a lot of IT people. Pretty GOOD at what they do, but not too good with communicating outside of that. I think they're more techies than teachers or businessman. I'm a businessman (teacher type), so the communications thing is a big deal to me, and that's driving me crazy!

I didn't want to leave my last statement loose ended (see? communications), and I didn't want to just say "Delivered", because I notice that there is this concern about the altcoin market being full of shit coins (shitty people?), and I think altcoins play an important role in cryptocurrency and it might be seen if more people made an effort to produce or support more useful altcoin projects.

BC