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1  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: October 10, 2014, 06:35:45 PM
refund received, many thanks.
2  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: October 08, 2014, 12:06:25 AM
PM sent with refund request for order nr. 976.
3  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: October 02, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
One Iphone Sold.


Bob still has time to sell Iphones apparently. I guess since no X3's have arrived yet, their strategy is to wait a little longer until they do arrive in some weeks on months.. once they ship we can't get refunds right? so they just ignore the thread and all the refund requests until something ships. smart strategy i guess?

any comments bob? thomas?
4  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: October 01, 2014, 09:42:28 PM
So that's 65 shares worth 8210$ or about 9 BTC more or less. Jesus that's a lot of money... way more than I expected, and I suspect these are not the only people left without a refund.

Still nothing shipped so we are still eligible for a refund, where is it??? at least refund us in BTC.. I would personally be okay with that, not sure about the rest of the guys.

Any reply to this, Bob? or Thomas? even the mighty DZ himself? is bumping this thread not enough? do we need to spam you with private messages to get any type of response? angry emails? use the trust feature here? what do we need to do to get attention? we're 7 dudes (so far).. where are our refunds? some people lost ridiculous amounts of money.

It's October, a month and a half till the GB is 1 year old and no miners have arrived let alone started hashing. All the talk about compensation plans and so on... where is it???
Do you expect us to just forget nearly 10 thousand dollars? or almost 10 BTC (at the time)?
5  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: September 30, 2014, 11:52:42 PM
35 shares which are 4410$ so far and roughly 4.5 BTC owed to us (using the rate at the time)... I expect a refund of the BTC at the very least. i mean it lost 2/3 of its worth since then but still, if we get BTC we might still get our money back someday.

if i am correct the miners still haven't shipped and hashing is no where in sight. it's almost October which is Q4 of 2014.
6  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: September 29, 2014, 09:10:19 AM
So Bobsag doesn't have time to write even a hint of an update about anything regarding this GB, yet he has plenty of time to sell stuff in another thread and bump it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=795604.msg8957610#msg8957610

I want my 0.6 BTC back ASAP. Or make it even 0.55 including the 10% for your "wasted time". I'm tired of waiting for nothing.

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Once sales begin, Refunds are available up until unit ships at 1.5% restock fee. We vote on all buying, shipping, and resale decisions as well as vote on the month to attempt equipment resales after 5-7 months of operations.

It clearly states in the OP of this group buy that refunds are available until it ships. Nothing shipped yet so I demand a refund now. not in 3 weeks and not in a month and a half when this GB will turn 1 year old with no shipped miners and no hashing done whatsoever.

Maybe the rest of the people who are still utterly fucked from this GB could post how much BTC they are owed? we could get a rough sum together? I know Phillipma is in 0.5 or something like that.. anyone else?
7  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <We have DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: September 19, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
From Minersource FB page Sept 15th 2014:
"We have recieved a shipment of X3s today, with the replaced capacitors and new PSUs. Will resume shipping tomorrow after burn-in testing is completed".

So, ARE we finally going to hash? DZMinerCoop, we want to see at least some information in this topic !
R17's units were ordered end of December this shipment does not cover into the R17 order

Is there any way to get my 0.6 BTC/630$ back at all? Where is Bob? or DZ himself? are you working behind the scenes on some kind of compensation? or have you all just given up and basically accepted this as a loss and moved on to something new and exciting? Do you even plan on hashing?

630$ or 0.6 BTC is at this point in my life a pretty big deal.. it wasn't a year ago when I made this investment but shit changed for the worse. Is there anything positive left about this failure of a group buy at all?? I get that there's a lot of hostility towards you guys now, but still... this is no reason to ignore ALL of the group buyers and just collectively write us off.
8  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: August 26, 2014, 01:37:30 PM
any news? anything? it's annoying that we have to run behind you and keep poking your for some basic answers. even if once a week you just post "no new information" that'll be better than the current situation. Q4 of 2014 is starting soon... are we gonna get some compensation? or BTC refunds? or what?
9  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: June 04, 2014, 12:42:33 PM
I don't like this silence... so the 660$ or 0.6 BTC i've paid for 6 shares is just gone??? nothing I can do?
And no refunds even though nothing is even close to hashing yet let alone being delivered?
This smells like fuckery... not sure yet on who's side but I don't like this.
Can we have some answers please? It can't be that mysterious and vague...
10  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: April 10, 2014, 11:21:47 PM
is it too late to ask for a refund?
when does the mining start approximately? is there a time window for the delivery even? i would like to make some calculations and find the optimal way to go.
thanks!
11  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: R19X KnC Neptune *2 Paid for* 60Ghash/$225/0 Shares Open! on: April 10, 2014, 10:37:28 PM
I sure hope you are going at this aggressively, Bobsag.. right now the price is under 400 so we could get an amazing return in BTC at least. probably even more than we could have had we chosen to mine. but this has to happen fast!
my fingers are crossed and i'm sure everyone else's are too...
12  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: R19X KnC Neptune *2 Paid for* 60Ghash/$225/0 Shares Open! on: March 31, 2014, 12:38:29 AM
i have 5 shares and i would go for a refund if we go for it ASAP. can we get a mailing list or something going to inform the other shareholders? if we move quick we can make a good return in BTC.
13  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: February 22, 2014, 01:01:02 AM
again i gotta ask, is there a deadline for refunds? is it in 2 days when the miners were supposed to show up? or is it the may delivery date? i'm still hesitant about the refund thing. thanks!
14  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: February 12, 2014, 04:22:11 AM
Is there a deadline for the refund requests? would it be february 24th? because I am still on the fence about it.

Thanks again for the great work and it's a shame things worked out like this.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cudaMiner - a new litecoin mining application [Windows/Linux] on: February 07, 2014, 08:51:41 PM
Anyone got a good 670 config? I'm using the 660 posted above and i'm also using the weird ass maxcoinpool which goes crazy sometimes. 76.91% yay to boo ratio.

Also thanks so much cbuchner for existing and willing to do the things you do.
16  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Limited Open]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: December 18, 2013, 01:04:58 AM
this better close soon or I'll be poor!

ok. I just had to get 3 more.
2 + 6 + 1 +3 = 12

i hope these come a month or 2 before the Neptunes hit the market!

Hi bluesticker,

Thanks and Welcome Aboard!
This goes for all of our newcomers, and to our co-op veterans back for more. Smiley
Hope you or anyone else doesn't risk putting living expenses into Bitcoin and Bitcoin miners.  Cry

These are all considered high risk investments that your typical, fuddy duddy stocks/bonds conservative investors would run screaming from. For the most part: Bitcoin miners fit the bill of high risk/high reward investors.

As far as the delivery date of February 24: everything still appears to be on track.

Oh, and someone was asking how many Prosperos were sold? I haven't seen the latest numbers but this has been the most successful DZ MC Group Buy Round so far: something like 35-40 TH/s or more. There are more Round 17x funds that haven't been paid for yet, so the co-op's paid hashrate total I have in my sig should be going up this week.

No, Thank you!
I love everything about this Co-op and as a proud degenerate I am happy to invest some cash into such a risky venture. If I visit the States next year I would love to create a little documentary and show the beautiful people who are working so hard behind the scenes of DZMC. You guys truly set the bar (and a very high one at that) for how a BTC group buy/Co-op should work, evolve and improve. Much appreciated! 
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [OPEN] R20x: LTC Ultra Power Rig GB! $212 = 144-160 KH/s + DZ MC Exclusives on: December 12, 2013, 01:09:49 AM




i'm considering getting 3 shares but it seems like such a big risk. in a month the difficulty will probably at least double.
at that rate (diff 5000+), 500KHS will get you 0.6 LTC a week.
but as we see, at the current rate of craze for litecoin, the difficulty bounces up 3 times in 10 days... and the leaps seem to be getting bigger and bigger.

as of right now, for that same price (roughly 0.6B for 3 shares) i can buy 16.6 LTC.

not trying to knock anyone down or anything, but something really crazy has to happen to the litecoin price in order to ROI on this, and with the current difficulties BTC is having i really can't see that happening easy just like that.

i'll keep monitoring but no buying as of yet.

but a huge thanks for even considering this, love you guys!
18  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $110 / 40GHS on: November 30, 2013, 04:48:25 AM
Order #976 paid. 6 shares.
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19  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Advise me to buy the 600ghs Monarch or not? on: November 30, 2013, 02:36:15 AM
I'm really wondering if I want to pre-order the 600ghs Monarch from BTF or not.
Please share your opinion, it might help me make up my mind Smiley

I can speak from personal experience BFL has a completely terrible customer service (basically none) and they deliver MUCH later than promised. (Several months), which means that by the time you eventually get your product, it will be hardly making enough bitcoins to cover the initial investment.

In other words, don't buy anything from BFL.

I ordered a BFL 25GH/s in April and they said it would take about 2 months to deliver, they delivered it about a week ago. It now makes 0,02bc a day, so it will take roughly 2 months at this difficulty to pay for itself, however the difficulty will likely increase so it may not ever pay itself back and will be even less likely to make profit.

Also by the time they deliver the $/gh ratio and the kW/gh ratio are both pretty terrible.



saw one 25GH/s go for 1800€ (2444$) on Ebay. you could just pass the curse onto someone else and buy bitcoins. shit, they might even pay you in bitcoins!
20  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mt.Gox AML/KYC Process Explained on: November 29, 2013, 01:29:01 AM
I have a coin there and I have no idea how to get it. Everything is delayed for unrealistic time periods.
Does anyone have a good experience withdrawing €'s somewhere? in Germany specifically?
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