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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming) on: October 08, 2018, 02:43:44 PM
Yes, yes, lots of people still wish SPR death etc,
they want SPR to disappear to delete all traces of the HLM exit scam.

It would fit them well.

Not gonna happen though.

 Wink
I dont't think Spreadcoin has been dead or will be dead because the dev has still been actively here.
Don't know why someone called the coin is a dead one.

SPR is alive, breathing fresh air for the first time in a long time!

we are still getting rid of the infected tissue though:

I'm glad that SPR's price isn't artificially inflated anymore.

We never deserved Bittrex. It was mr spread's achievement, not ours.
This privilege of being listed at Bittrex has been fully abused by HLM, for the last 2 years.
It's the exchange they used to play it all out.

There is one good thing in bittrex kicking us:
HLM group has finally given up their positions.

So I'm loading up again!

For the last 2 years I didn't own a single SPR.
This isn't the case anymore.

The healing continues.

 Smiley

I think you are wrong.

HLM group, were also investor and speculators.  If in the future someone come invest in spread coin with similar purporse, and you influece to give up their holding, what do you expect for the coin. Are you against spread coin. It does not matter what is the purpose, you always want investor and holder and specuators.

So you think HLM group, were the only people that could harm "your coin". That they won't come back, or someone else won't come with the similar purpose.

Good luck, you have what you deserve give up investor for free, and give up bittrex for free. I hope you learn something about it. But you help to kill a good project, do not blame HLM group, they were investor, you weren't. You help depress the price all the time.

Blame yourself, you are the "head developer".
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 27, 2018, 01:54:43 PM


Byteball will comeback to 1000 USD then to 12000. I'll be waiting...


I am pretty sure most of the whales were accumulating BTC for the last few months and even at todays high price they are probably still underwater.

Go to tradingview and look at the GBYTEBTC chart on Bittrex under the H1.

Look at all the huge buys walls that went on for hours and hours like on Aug 8th, July 24th, July 25th, etc.

This coin might be back to the $1000 USD range in the near future.

If that happens, a lot of us will be relieved. Byteball did increase by great leaps last year, even doubling to over $1000 in a single day. But the pessimism which captured all altcoins did not spare Byteball as well. As long as we are patient with our holdings, I think we can eventually realize value from Byteball.

Dream on. If u guys are still riding the crest of a 2 years old byteball wave or whatever is left from it, u are not crypto guys. Investments are being made in other spaces and planes, BALL is finished, officially. Who would take a bet with a naysayer like me that situation worsens 9000 percent within the coming days and that BALL will not survive the hit? No gains only painz.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 21, 2018, 02:40:49 AM

We should pray that bittrex never goes offline.
Indeed - fortunately Byteball isn't the only participant in that prayer.

Last thing that we need, bittrex byteball wallet is offline Angry
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 20, 2018, 12:01:25 AM
Our main Bitcointalk thread now has more than 1,000 pages of posts!

Founder Tony made the first post on September 5, 2016. We've come a long way. Please continue to get involved and help out the Byteball project!

There have been more than a 1000 pages of posts on Byteball, but the price has moved in the opposite direction. I do believe we have bottomed out, but we need to do more for the price to recover. There has been a lot of development, but not enough marketing. The giveaways tend to depress the price, rather than proving a boost to marketing.

Byteballer expect more volatility.

Inflation rate of byteball is variable, it depends on the usd price, the lower the price in dollar the more gbytes is donated to wcg people, steemer, Milan touris, kwc, etc. So the amount of byte donated is unpredictable, because the price is umpredictable, then inflation is predictablely unpredictable.

Unliquidity make it more more volatil, which is the most import problem to solve for a real mass adoption.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 17, 2018, 05:52:06 PM
Byteball is lucky to have people like Marc De Mesel in the community. We love his enthusiasm, and also his bravery to get on camera and share with the world what he thinks based on both data and gut feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0VweskNm8&feature=youtu.be
I have watched lots of informative, valueable videos with Marc De Messel on crypto in general, and Byteball specifically.


Thank you so much guys!!!! Feeling honored  Cool

https://twitter.com/marcdemesel/status/1030381022351908865

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 17, 2018, 05:39:03 PM
Byteball is lucky to have people like Marc De Mesel in the community. We love his enthusiasm, and also his bravery to get on camera and share with the world what he thinks based on both data and gut feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0VweskNm8&feature=youtu.be
I have watched lots of informative, valueable videos with Marc De Messel on crypto in general, and Byteball specifically.


Thank you so much guys!!!! Feeling honored  Cool

https://twitter.com/marcdemesel/status/1030381022351908865

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 17, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
Byteball is lucky to have people like Marc De Mesel in the community. We love his enthusiasm, and also his bravery to get on camera and share with the world what he thinks based on both data and gut feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0VweskNm8&feature=youtu.be
I have watched lots of informative, valueable videos with Marc De Messel on crypto in general, and Byteball specifically.


Thank you so much guys!!!! Feeling honored  Cool

https://twitter.com/marcdemesel/status/1030381022351908865


8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 17, 2018, 04:31:31 AM
Let me put this way, those "illiquid coin exchange" are good for filling the content of a website. Yes you can buy a few bytes and store it, and pray for the price to up one day and sell it.
Byteball has more usefulness than that. Byteball can be the finance crypto instrument prefered choice. It can be deeply integrated with other coin, and give the market the price stability that is needed. But Byteball needs LIQUIDITY.

Let me give you only "one example":
I have 10 Ethereum coins that cost me 300 USD each, and I want insured it against any price drop, because I don't want to loose money or risk my holding, I can go binary ball and buy an insurance from 1 to 5 hours. Two situation will happen:
1. the price of ethereum goes up, I loose the binary insurance BUT I win with ethereum in price. I sell ethereum and buy again insurance.
2. The price of ethereum goes down, I won the binary "insurance" sell it and buy ethereum back again.
Conclusion: the value of the ethereum holding in my portfolio stay around 3000 usd.

The model works better if price of ethereum would be in bytes, and the insurance is for 24 hours, and better LIQUIDITY.

Why all prices of on binary ball are in USD or Bitcoin. Maybe is lack of bytes liquidity.

A petition to Binary Ball developer,

Can you please list another asset pair?
I think you are missing the most important pair

Can your list byteball_bitcoin pair on the Binary options trading?

I want insure my byteball holding, please.

If not, why not?

Thank for your responce.



The low liquidity of Byteball would be a very easy way to manipulate a Byteball binary contract.

shoemaker's son always goes barefoot


9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 15, 2018, 02:31:19 PM
zencash does not have a wallet, but they manege to be listed in more exchages than bittrex. zencash is more liquid and it is 69 on market cap. zencash 0 innovation.
There are projects in top-100 that are completely abandoned. No developers, no activity, no innovation, no adoption, nothing. Only speculation. People could just as well speculate in tulips or small bags of gravel. I would be hesitant to use position on Coinmarketcap for anything remotely related to adoption and widespread use.

Why you want to segregate speculator, they need a fast coin confirmation, a secure wallet, low transaction fee. Speculator needs liquidity, and byteball need transaction to be more faster. It is a win win. And with the help of Binary option trading bicoin and alt can reduce the volatility.

By the way tulips and small bags of gravel have more stable price than bitcoin, it can be sold for fiat around the world. People speculation is a dream on tulips, but a reallity on bitcoin and byteball.

10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 15, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Let me put this way, those "illiquid coin exchange" are good for filling the content of a website. Yes you can buy a few bytes and store it, and pray for the price to up one day and sell it.
Byteball has more usefulness than that. Byteball can be the finance crypto instrument prefered choice. It can be deeply integrated with other coin, and give the market the price stability that is needed. But Byteball needs LIQUIDITY.

Let me give you only "one example":
I have 10 Ethereum coins that cost me 300 USD each, and I want insured it against any price drop, because I don't want to loose money or risk my holding, I can go binary ball and buy an insurance from 1 to 5 hours. Two situation will happen:
1. the price of ethereum goes up, I loose the binary insurance BUT I win with ethereum in price. I sell ethereum and buy again insurance.
2. The price of ethereum goes down, I won the binary "insurance" sell it and buy ethereum back again.
Conclusion: the value of the ethereum holding in my portfolio stay around 3000 usd.

The model works better if price of ethereum would be in bytes, and the insurance is for 24 hours, and better LIQUIDITY.

Why all prices of on binary ball are in USD or Bitcoin. Maybe is lack of bytes liquidity.

A petition to Binary Ball developer,

Can you please list another asset pair?
I think you are missing the most important pair

Can your list byteball_bitcoin pair on the Binary options trading?

I want insure my byteball holding, please.

If not, why not?

Thank for your responce.


How in the earth we want mass adoption if the one only way to buy bytes is through bittrex.
For widespread adoption to non-crypto people, trading on an exchange is definitely not the way to go, agreed.
But with the in-wallet "Buy bytes with Visa/MasterCard"-bot that's exactly what is being addressed. Instead of having users jump through a million hoops to acquire Bytes, they can simply flash their credit card directly within the wallet and purchase Bytes. If that's not directly addressing the issue you raise, I don't know what would be.

The one missing link to complete the value chain is fiat off-ramps allowing merchants to instantly convert Bytes to their respective fiat that they need for operation costs and stock. While it's not integrated in a bot or fully automated yet, initiatives like the Capybara Exchange in Venezuela does a great job in providing a relatively easy off-ramp. A second similar off-ramp is under way in Nigeria too.

zencash does not have a wallet, but they manege to be listed in more exchages than bittrex. zencash is more liquid and it is 69 on market cap. zencash 0 innovation.
There are projects in top-100 that are completely abandoned. No developers, no activity, no innovation, no adoption, nothing. Only speculation. People could just as well speculate in tulips or small bags of gravel. I would be hesitant to use position on Coinmarketcap for anything remotely related to adoption and widespread use.


Lord Tony, you have the best crypto ball out of the crypto world. Best innovation, best wallet, etc.

For people able to adopt a coin, shoud be able to buy and sell more easy and quickly.

How can we adopt a coin if the only way to sell or buy bytes is through bittrex?
Agreed - that's exactly what the in-wallet integration with Visa/MasterCard provides in terms of buying. Selling is a bit more tricky, but it's definitely on the radar as something that has to be solved. Only by providing a solution covering the full value chain all the way from customer to merchants and potentially to manufacturers will a coin have the potential to disrupt the market for commerce. Need I remind people, that the overarching goal of Byteball, is to become the preferred platform for commerce? Yet - progress is slow and often intertwined with loads of legal stuff, negotiations dragging on for ages as well as finding potential entry points in existing markets.


We should pray that bittrex never goes offline.
Indeed - fortunately Byteball isn't the only participant in that prayer.


With byteball we want to get ride off miners, exchages, speculator, and with this prices, byteball look like a falling knife, loosing its community.
Here I must disagree. There has been a quite significant change of "regulars" in the community. But my own personal view on that is, that it proved the point of changing focus on airdrops was the right decision. Previous "regulars" stuck around until the stream of free money stopped and immediately left. If they had been involved in actual projects aiming to promote the platform or in other ways had started actively engaging in the project, they wouldn't have left. There are a few old-timers still left, but if you take a quick look on activity on Slack, it's quite obvious that those left are those who have actively taken a stance and decided to not just sit back and wait to get rich and watch others do all the work.

What a lot of people fail to understand is, that it takes so little effort to actively make a difference. So it's mindblowingly stupid that investors spending time writing long whiny posts here, on Slack or anywhere else, doesn't instead spend that time actively doing something productive. I can't imagine how unsatisfying it must be to just be sitting on one's ass just pointing out things that has to be done, preferably yesterday.

Even the smallest effort does make a difference. I know everyone on the core team is running 120% to keep the pace of the development of this project. We should be thankful for that and provide whatever help we can to make even more things happen.

Just my 2 cents - now back to doing actual work for the project ;-)
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 14, 2018, 06:40:15 PM
Wow, under 0.01 BTC. Down about 97% from ath versus BTC and 94% from ath versus USD. Looks like new marketing and distribution methods very effective Cheesy

byteball has a very small team. if you would like to help out send me a DM, that would be great. thanks

Thank you for the offer but no thank you. I can't see myself working on or with a coin that is operated by a single person, and the distribution of which is controlled by a small group or even a single person in secret.

I actually was quite interested in byteball at launch, and had plans to run a full node and setup a bot on freenode for tipping and/or betting, but I'm quite disillusioned by the repeated changes to the distribution mechanism(s) and the total network control by a single individual 18 months after launch.

Similar to afbitcoins I still hold a bit, which I've basically written off at this point, but time is much more precious than some satoshis. I just see this thread pop up on my unread list a lot and thought I'd chime in with some perspective.

fair enough, you think the same as many people, I cant really argue.

To be honest I think many people have left through frustration for the reasons you mention

I too have been frustrated, especially regarding lack of decentralization

On those two subjects I can say

1. There has been a public statement that the aim is to have half of witnesses out of tonys hands by January 2019 http://prntscr.com/kia3my This was annouced recently, and previously nothing remotely this concrete was ever stated. Valerius who started as head of strategy in June is in charge of getting this done. Remember before around mid 2018 nobody but Tony and a few devs were part of the project. Sure Steve has been around for a while but apart from him nobody in a non development role for any period of time. The resources are now in place to actually get it decentralized, where as before tony and the devs didnt have time. Remember Byteball hit a market cap of like $800 million with a team of basically 5 people, and it did this twice, May 2017 odd and January 2018.

2. Distribution methods. Steem was the first time Byteball had ever incorporated a smart contract to lock airdropped funds for 1 year, and that only started in July. The signs are that this has gotten bytes into the hands of far more people than continually airdropping to bytes and btc holders like initially planned, 65,000 new wallets from that alone https://byteball.co/attestors

Similar distributions are planned for bigger platforms using the same format, but locking in a higher % of the funds into a contract as evidence shows it doesnt seem to affect people that much if they are getting it free anyway.

This should get bytes distributed amongst far more people than the vast majority of other projects



Sorry, but I don't think "out of Tony's hands" is anywhere close to decentralized. There's no concrete plans except have the byteball foundation run one or two, right? So they won't technically be run by the same person, just run by a foundation started by that person. If that happens plus a few more nodes are run by people within the project, I don't think that really changes the situation in any meaningful way.

spreadcoin is the most decentralized coin out there because it has no pools minning. it used to be on the 100 on marketcap.
it is now 769 because of the same problem that byteball have, lack of liquidity.

How in the earth we want mass adoption if the one only way to buy bytes is through bittrex.

zencash does not have a wallet, but they manege to be listed in more exchages than bittrex. zencash is more liquid and it is 69 on market cap. zencash 0 innovation.

Lord Tony, you have the best crypto ball out of the crypto world. Best innovation, best wallet, etc.

For people able to adopt a coin, shoud be able to buy and sell more easy and quickly.

How can we adopt a coin if the only way to sell or buy bytes is through bittrex?

We should pray that bittrex never goes offline.

With byteball we want to get ride off miners, exchages, speculator, and with this prices, byteball look like a falling knife, loosing its community.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Sports betting on Byteball on: August 14, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
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13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🏀 - ⚾ - ⚽ - ❄ - 🏈 - 👊 Byteball Sport Betting Bot - It's baseball season! on: August 13, 2018, 01:55:43 AM
Where are the baseball bets ?

No more baseball?

Why?

When is it coming back?

14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 12, 2018, 12:46:39 AM
We need a real marketing team, make it competitive. And let us vote for the best marketing work DONE!

Lord Tony, I know you may busy coding, that is OK.
But your marketing friends are worth less than 5 % of the salary you pay to them...

bring back the old airdrops... the new marketing shit it's just for take a few bucks and it's drop the value!  the marketing team is really bad too :-(
i really like the byteball project but that's  sucks hard
Where have you been the last few weeks?
Only your post sucks hard Cheesy
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 10, 2018, 01:25:51 PM
Now I think byteball name make sense with the sport betting app.
Yesterday I made 6 baseball betting, it works good.
Now I think I kind of understand Tony is not exchange friendly, may he wants more people to people trade, people to people betting, and stay away from centralice exchages.
It would be a good to publish the daily volume of sport betting.

Today:





What I do like about this project generally and the community around it in particular, is the fact that people are generally having proper discussions without too much "when moon" and similar pointless discussions.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 31, 2018, 03:50:43 PM
since we now have an id system in byteball, we have name and country of residence  and picture ID recorded on the DAG.
Is it a good time to run a voting system for proposal?
Like which youtube video of byteball of the month is best and give a regard to the winner and we all make a vote.

By the way, which project of Venezuela Simon Bolivar University won the contest, how you selected, can we the community be part of that next time, by voting? About what the different projects were about? Where were they published? Is it a secret strategy?

All tsunamis start with a ripple. Since July 12 more than 48,000 Steem users have chosen to ride the Byteball wave!

You can see the live data here https://byteball.co/attestors


My mobile byteball wallet (android, 2.4.2 light) still doesn't show the steem att bot, looks like the bot store stopped updating, what could be wrong with it   Huh
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 29, 2018, 04:44:29 AM
any news about to resume the Byte distribution for WCG?

If the distribution continue in dollar terms and unlimited bytes per day, there is a potential for further price erosion because there is no cap on bytes distribution.
However if the distribution is cap in bytes per day, the distribution will become profitable overtime organically.

This new model of distribution bytes in dollars terms without cap is hurting the price in top of the lack of liquidity because of lack of exchanges.

If the byteball price continue south you ends up distributing more bytes, and if the bytes distributed hit the market the price will depreciate even more, then the next day the distribution of byte will be more, and so on...

I am not against airdrop, or any distribution method. But the amount of bytes distributed per day and years should be a fix number.
Potentially or theoretically all remaining bytes can be distributed in one day if the price of on Gbyte is 0.1 dollar.

18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 21, 2018, 11:27:34 PM
I am a supporter of byteball platform. But I think the distribution of bytes through WCG can be improved as well as the distribution as whole though a sustainable way. Some people complain because it changes in a very short time without previus anouncement.

For exmple, why not distribute the remaining bytes in a fix number of year by a fix amount of bytes? Mimicking the distribution of bitcoin. And it will become a profitable distribution organically.

For example, If I have 300,000 Gbyte to distribute in 30 years, it would be 10,000 Gbyte a year.
It would be around 30 Gbytes a day fixed distribution for 30 years to the WCG.
The 30 Gbytes a day should be divided by the total number of points of WCG.
Or 15 Gbytes to WCG and 15 Gbytes for Byteball core team, or 10 and 20.
Or 3 to wcg and 27 to byteball core team.
Or 10 to wcg, and 10 to full nodes and 10 to core team.
Whatever the amount or method is, fix it, do not change it tomorrow.
It will become profitable eventually, and people that are already mining other coins will switch their hashing power "to mine" Byteball.
The amount of Gbytes to distribute per day should determined and study by "the experts" or open a public debate.

This model of distribution I didn't invented, it works for bitcoin and some other altcoins. I think it is sustainamble for the price, and the investors and trader will know what to expect next day, next month, and next year.

If I could unfix the distribution of Bitcoin because "I invented the Bitcoin" and I start distribute it to steem user at my will because I think is good, then next day start ditributing Bitcoin at my will to the students of a Venezuelan University, then next day I start to distribute Bitcoin to souvenir merchant in Milan, next day will sell bitcoin to pay for developers and marketing at my will, the price of Bitcoin would be 125 USD per bitcoin today.


Nice work guys, really appreciate the efforts! It's always good to get a little compensation for computation. Smiley
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 09, 2018, 02:56:03 AM
Setting the course for real-world adoption: Head of Marketing and Strategy Development joins the team

https://medium.com/byteball/setting-the-course-for-real-world-adoption-head-of-marketing-and-strategy-development-joins-the-e7e653a07c4

Excellent news. Real world adoption seems to be the biggest of challenges for every crypto project, since in the end only a little community of crypto-believers is in fact trying to get some coins of whatever project hoping for a future success. Most of the platforms are still too complex to use for the average user. Byteball is one step forward in this regard, but a lot has still to be achieved until being ready for mass adoption.

very nice, we don't need binance or bitfinex, we need to sell souvenir in Milan for 10 % discount...
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 08, 2018, 02:25:25 PM
Setting the course for real-world adoption: Head of Marketing and Strategy Development joins the team

https://medium.com/byteball/setting-the-course-for-real-world-adoption-head-of-marketing-and-strategy-development-joins-the-e7e653a07c4

"So far we havenít seen many cases of using crypto for anything other than an investment tool, transfer of value or worse ó pure speculation."

investment tool, transfer of value, and  pure speculation cannot scale on other cryptos, byteball can.

What is wrong of been an investment tool, or transfer of value, or speculate?

These peolple are part of a community, they have something to do.

At least they are not mining and burning earth resourses.

So what is the plan adopt the wcg people, donate coin to hunger venezuelan, give 10 % discount for turist in Milan?

Try to gain some market share of the crypto space, It is where we are right now. Think about filantropic later
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