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21  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of DuckDice.io which was tagged for scam on: January 28, 2019, 06:19:21 PM
I do not normally share pms but in this situation I think It's acceptable. Duckdice has been planning a signature campaign or at least thinking about it since October 2018. They messaged me(I think in an attempt to gain/buy my trust so I might eventually remove my tag) about managing a campaign for them.





I'm not 100% sure on tagging notaek. He was only guaranteeing participants be paid as an escrow. An argument can be made both ways on why to or why not tag him, on that  I can agree 100%. I would like to see his response to all this before I make a decision on that.

Participants should be given a window of time to remove their signatures before we tag anyone there. Warnings have been sent from a couple of you, So I think 48-72 hours is a fair amount of time for users to log in and read what's going on in the campaigns thread and here.

Good call on finding this @coolcryptovator

I think it is likely he is doing more than just escrowing the funds. For instance, the thread has the exact same awful font and formatting as notaek's Magnumwallet campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he at least has access to the Duckdice Pr account.
22  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PRIMEDICE SCAMED ME 0.1 BTC on: January 28, 2019, 05:21:16 PM
Manual withdrawals for larger cashouts is common practice. Considering how you seem to use a variety of dicing sites, you should already be aware of this practice.

Not to mention, they did pay you out in the end.
Primedice is a big site, the cash out was only BTC0.106  and I think with their status, it's not big.
Maybe the reason why his last withdrawal was on hold because he did a lot of withdrawal in a single day, if you look at https://prnt.sc/mcq844,
he made a total of 9 withdrawals, including the last one that is pending (which was resolve now) and it totaled to BTC0.6863.

Right, it is almost certainly based off of total withdrawals within a fixed time period. If this wasn’t the case, any exploiter could drain the hot wallet by simply withdrawing a medium sized amount over and over.
23  Economy / Reputation / Re: Condoras - Never to be used as escrow. Example of the way he does escrowing. on: January 28, 2019, 05:13:56 PM
It’s pretty obvious you are talking to a fake condoras on Telegram, I don’t see why he has any obligation to go beyond telling you that use isn’t him when there is no way to stop someone from using your username.

Only thing of value in this thread is that people can now tag your alt (fjunderwood).
24  Other / Meta / Re: Weird newbie account with 2 merit wearing avatar? on: January 27, 2019, 11:27:34 PM
So we have two low ranked accounts with avatars which is logically impossible since they both joined after the merit system has been introduced.
Also LoyceV noticed this:
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Do you have any idea why your profile says you have 0 posts, and your post history shows 3 posts? It seems to be a glitch in the forum software.
From their post history, we understand they know a lot about forum rules and they fight spammers so why 3dOOm would post a shitpost like this one?

Also:
-alanst sent only two merits, one to Cyrus and another to 3dOOm.
-3dOOm received only two merits, one from alanst and one from Cyrus.
-3dOOm received his two merits for a post in the Romanian local board.


I’m assuming that shitpost is just sarcasm, referring to how easy this script makes it to report the idiots who post that in every thread.
25  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PRIMEDICE SCAMED ME 0.1 BTC on: January 27, 2019, 10:13:52 PM
Manual withdrawals for larger cashouts is common practice. Considering how you seem to use a variety of dicing sites, you should already be aware of this practice.

Not to mention, they did pay you out in the end.
26  Other / Meta / Re: Craked5 is a hacked account on: January 27, 2019, 10:03:43 PM
good job people. I just lost $1500 of my investments in this account. The seller told me that it is completely clean signed with bitcoin address account.

Why would you spend $1.5k on a hero account that had clearly been hacked? Is that how much accounts go for these days? I can't see this being worth more than $150, hopefully you've learned your lesson.
27  Other / Meta / Re: Weird newbie account with 2 merit wearing avatar? on: January 27, 2019, 09:51:52 PM
This is purely speculation, but perhaps this is a hidden reward for reporting good posts?

alanst (the other Newbie with an avatar) has 500+ good reports and 3dOOm responded to a thread regarding a usercript to make reporting posts easier. I guess a mod/admin would need to confirm this, though.
28  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 26, 2019, 01:58:20 AM
This situation is pretty much why I only tag accounts that have been sold, not account sellers. I don’t think it is fair to just allow some people to sell accounts because they happen to be a good guy otherwise. The distinction is purely subjective.
29  Economy / Reputation / Re: Legendary account seller on: January 25, 2019, 06:08:45 PM
Nice find. I think if you look in the history of most lenders that accept accounts as collateral, you’ll find they sell them pretty often. Some even expunge these accounts from their loan histories so it isn’t as obvious.
30  Other / Meta / Re: One year anniversary of merit system on: January 25, 2019, 12:32:03 AM
Good to see merit activity picking up again in the past few weeks.

I'll admit, I was a bit skeptical of how effective the system would be at first (and a bit salty I had potential Legendary activity at the time). Definitely has been a positive addition to the forum as a whole.
31  Other / Meta / Re: Viewing TRUST when not logged in on: January 24, 2019, 09:10:44 PM
I don't know why, but I was under the impression that the decision to disallow guests from viewing feedback had something to do with cases where an employer or something is doing a google search on a potential employee, and ends up here, "Biggest Shitboi on forum, Skemmd my Grandmum for 5,000 BTC", "Guy sucks, l0l" etc feedback.

Again, I don't know if thats correct but something is telling me that was a consideration, though I don't have a source. The obvious hole that sticks out in my mind, is that there are only a handful of people here who used their real names, or have published their real names. I can't shake the suspicion that trust was only meant to be a factor in sections where it might possibly matter, and between members who are at risk of doing some sort of trade, at least partially for that reason. I don't think that conducting business with guest users was a consideration. How would you exchange PMs arranging a trade without an account?

Why not make it just show users' overall trust scores under their name in threads/posts, but keep individual profile pages the same as they are now. A guest would be able to see whether a seller has green trust, neutral trust, or red trust, but wouldn't be able to see each individual feedback until they make an account themselves.
32  Economy / Services / Re: Startup looking for founding partners/developers/team members on: January 24, 2019, 08:33:02 AM
What is your background in? What work have you done besides the white paper and an idea?
33  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 23, 2019, 08:26:56 AM
If I'm theymos,

I will add forms to submit

a) One - day Inactivity Leave (letter)

b) Three - day Sick Inactivity Leave (letter)

c) Yearly Holiday of 15 days, 1 month, 1 year, 2 to few years (letter)

d) Wedding Inactivity leave

e) Accident Inactivity leave with / without proof

f) Space Journey leave

g) And many more...

Isn't it hard to tweak to accept absence letters and keep activity level of DT1 and DT2.


Does space journey leave eat into my holiday leave? I was planning on taking a trip to Mars later this year, but might have to re-think things if this is the new policy.

I sure hope not, the tickets were non-refundable.
34  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Ethical Dilemma] What would you do? on: January 22, 2019, 09:27:06 PM
I would probably just return it unless you are 100% sure your contact with the project isn’t someone like you they just hired to do some marketing. Given you yourself believed they were legitimate at first, you could be screwing someone who naively believed the same.
35  Economy / Reputation / Re: hacked account , do not trade "Milkz" on: January 22, 2019, 07:32:54 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=408677

Milkz account was hacked, he reached out via telegram and told me so.

he said there was only 1 new new post by the hacker, long story short, do not trade with this account until things are worked on.

Mikey,
Just because someone came to your telegram and told that Milkz was hacked - made the account hacked? If someone comes to me and tell me that your account is a hacked account then would I think you are using a hacked account?

You need to ask the guy to give you enough evidences. I hope he did. If yes then you should present them here.

Good luck.

Seems like a pretty reasonable scenario to me, considering his email and password both reset recently. Better to be overly cautious when that's the case.
36  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 22, 2019, 05:46:45 AM
Since it seems we're addressing inactive/former DT2 members, I think its worth noting xetsr was finally (and rightfully) excluded. That being said, he did have a number of valid ratings before he went AWOL. If someone has the time to go through them (similar to mexxer and Shorena), it might be worth it.
37  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] BitBlender Signature Campaign | Up to 0.0003BTC/Post | Member - Legendary on: January 22, 2019, 05:27:38 AM
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=174480
Current Amount of Posts (Including this one): 876
SegWit eligible BTC Address: 3FSAMdZVESrmcuZrAvqf8niFMxgHAPnqQ4
38  Other / Meta / Re: Signature advertisers: suggestions? on: January 22, 2019, 05:22:40 AM
Given the two most "active" sub-forums are alt-coin related, it is safe to say signature campaigns have a large effect on the forum.

A small change I think might benefit this ecosystem would be dividing the "Bounty" sub-forum between campaigns that pay in a currently tradable tokens/coins and those that pay in yet to be minted coins. Essentially, escrowable vs. non-escrowable campaigns. This would serve as something of a quality filter, while still remaining fairly hands off in terms of actual screening.
39  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: January 16, 2019, 01:33:02 AM
Sorry for the link issue, the link in response has now been updated and bets are now public and can be viewed on this link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iLLzeap4MdHwMeVyun3lHA2JxUkPG8lg/view?usp=sharing
I would want to see the calculations as to why FJ thinks the bug started at line 184 of the "full betting history" (going up). Or some other explanation as to why they believe there is a bug in the game.

If I am reading the spreadsheet correctly, it looks like the OP's "spins" would never have resulted in a loss with a "cash out" of 0.99 or less. In other words, someone could have bet 260+ times to win 1.99x (winning 99% of the bet, and getting the bet back) and won each of those times. As such, I think it is fairly likely there is in fact a bug, however I would want a more detailed explanation from FJ.

The number of bets presented is small, however one scenario could be that the correct formula should be :
Code:
 SpinBPS * Bet = Win + Bet
It appears the payout formula during when the OP was playing the new game was:
Code:
SpinBPS * Bet = Win
If this was the case, it looks like the OP would have won 67 of his 78 bets during the claimed "bug" (if this is the case, the entire betting history for the new game was likely "bugged", and the OP simply had lost bets prior to when FJ claimed the "bug" started).

Other possibilities would be that the SpinBPS was otherwise being calculated incorrectly.

This game is currently up on FJ's website, and is claimed to be provably fair, so FJ presumably knows what the issue was and should be able to show what the outcomes should have been.



I think if the "correct" outcomes from the OP playing the new game would have resulted in the OP having sufficient funds to make the plinko bets up until he won the jackpot, the entire jackpot should be paid out.

If the above is not the case, the floor the OP should receive is what MadZ suggested above. However there are other considerations that would make me believe the OP should receive more, such as FJ essentially "freerolling" their players, and the possibility that the OP may have made different sized rolls had he had a different bankroll size.

I was a bit confused by this as well. The game is similar to Moneypot, where the bet multiplier will continually increase to a certain point, at which it crashes and you receive nothing if you haven't cashed out yet. "SpinBPS" is the crash point of the round, and "BPS" is the user's cashout point, which can be both set automatically or done manually. Whenever BPS < SpinBPS, the user loses their initial wager.

Both SpinBPS and BPS are only included in the second Google doc, so the first one doesn't really give any info.

I don't think the issue here is the system's provable fairness, although I haven't verified it. The bug was that for a certain number of rounds, the user would get paid out their auto-cashout multiplier regardless of whether it was higher than SpinBPS.
40  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: January 15, 2019, 11:40:17 PM
Credit to FortuneJack for making the bet history public. Although I disagree with their verdict, I appreciate the transparency in comparison to other casinos that have been in similar positions.

Here is my take on the matter after looking at the bets and withdrawal history more closely. I'd appreciate if both parties read it in its entirety before dismissing any points.

To start with, verusfides did receive 2+ BTC from the bugged rounds of Adrenaline. However, I think it is hard to say this is due to intentional abuse. Here is my reasoning for that:

1. Verusfides only doubled his bet sizing once, and that was after the second bugged round. I think this is pretty reasonable to do after doubling one's initial deposit, and 2 60x wins in a row doesn't necessarily indicate a game is bugged.
2. Adrenaline is essentially a re-skinned version of Moneypot. Setting an auto-cashout multiplier doesn't stop the player from manually cashing out at a certain point. Verus continued to manually cash out at low multipliers, even after upping the auto-cashout to 200x. If he was intentionally abusing what he perceived to be a bug, he would be losing money by doing this.
3. All of his higher wagers above .2 mBTC were not made during bugged rounds, and half of them did not have an auto cashout set. He actually lost money during this part.
4. Adrenaline was a recent addition to the website, and this was verusfides' first time playing. Owing to the nature of slot machine "jackpots", where users can trigger a set of bonus spins that award very high multipliers consecutively, it is entirely possible a new user might believe this to be an intended game mechanic.

Owing to the above reasons, I think it is fair to say that verusfides did not act in bad faith by continuing to play with his winnings.

The next question is did FortuneJack act in good faith as well?

According to FortuneJack's logs, verusfides immediately tried to cash out. This brought his bugged winnings to the site's attention. Indeed, FortuneJack manually reviewed his withdrawal and denied it. Rather than freezing his account, however, they allowed him to keep playing.

This means that FortuneJack was aware that verusfides' balance was illegitimate prior to winning the plinko jackpot, not after.

To me, it feels unethical to essentially "freeroll" a customer, allowing them to continue gambling with no intention of ever paying out in the event that they were to win anything else.

In my opinion, FJ should have frozen his account at this point, awarded him with the .2 BTC bounty for major bugs, and adjusted his balance accordingly. If that had happened, neither party would be in this situation.

It also seems to me unfair to retroactively penalize someone for hitting a jackpot they earned in good faith. Given verusfides not only identified a critical bug through his play, which in itself should have earned him the .2 BTC bounty, but also lost out on a large potential financial windfall through no fault of his own, I believe he deserves higher compensation.

First, I looked to see what would have happened if verusfides had been credited the .2 BTC immediately and placed the same wagers on Plinko. A graph of his balance is shown below.



Verusfides would have busted and been down over 1 BTC before finally hitting the jackpot. Given his previous deposits to the site total less than .5 BTC, it is unlikely he would have continued this betting pattern and achieved the same result. Therefore, I don't think FortuneJack should be forced to pay out the full 20 BTC.

What I propose as a reasonable solution, and I hope both parties will agree to this, is to re-evaluate verusfides' plinko bets as if he started with the .2 BTC balance FJ should have paid him anyway, instead of the 2.082 BTC he had at the time. Rather than take the face value of each bet, count them proportionally to what his correct bankroll should have been at the time, ie. 10% of what he actually wagered. This would result in verusfides hitting the jackpot for 2 BTC, instead of 20 BTC.

In my opinion, a 2 BTC payout is the fairest solution. This is arguably what the outcome would have been had FJ been more proactive with the situation, and also happens to fit nicely between the numbers both parties are offering by a factor of 10 on each side.
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