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1  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Биржа FTX on: May 06, 2024, 08:16:30 AM
Ты кстати затронул интересный вопрос - а как люди уходят с постов СЕО крипто бирж или известные люди? Они сейчас либо не уходят, но под них уже капают и создают досье. Либо сидит или в бегах. Кучерявый сидит. CZ сидит. Гокс - сидит. Создатель трона Сан - сбежал от органов (не помню какой страны). Создатель какого-то альта или декса (запамятовал, но какой-то азиат) - тоже сидит. Классная тенденция Grin
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul to Fight Mike Tyson in Live Netflix Boxing Event - July 20 on: May 06, 2024, 08:10:14 AM
I think not. The only reason I see why he accepted this fight (except money), was his wish to punish that cocky kid named Jake. As soon as he beats him, he will get back to his retirement. If he really wanted to fight so badly, he would have called out other fighters himself or accepted offers. I think Jake Paul was not the only one who challenged Mike.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: May 06, 2024, 08:07:17 AM
UFC on ESPN: Lewis vs. Nascimento



Date: May 11, 2024
Preliminary Card : SAT, MAY 11 / 11:00 PM GMT+3
Main Card: SUN, MAY 12 / 2:00 AM GMT+3

Venue: Enterprise Center

Main card (ESPN)
Heavyweight: Derrick Lewis vs. Rodrigo Nascimento            
Welterweight: Joaquin Buckley vs. Nursulton Ruziboev            
Light Heavyweight: Alonzo Menifield vs. Carlos Ulberg            
Lightweight: Carlos Diego Ferreira vs. Mateusz Rębecki            
Featherweight: Alex Caceres vs. Sean Woodson            
Heavyweight: Waldo Cortes-Acosta vs. Robelis Despaigne   

Preliminary card (ESPN)
Lightweight: Chase Hooper vs. Viacheslav Borshchev            
Lightweight:Terrance McKinney vs. Esteban Ribovics            
Women's Strawweight: Tabatha Ricci vs. Tecia Pennington            
Welterweight: Billy Goff vs. Trey Waters            
Flyweight: Charles Johnson vs. Jake Hadley            
Welterweight: Jared Gooden vs. Kevin Jousset            
Women's Flyweight: JJ Aldrich vs. Veronica Hardy      

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_ESPN:_Lewis_vs._Nascimento
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: May 06, 2024, 08:02:08 AM
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Btw, what about playing monopoly? Game with play money, but it teaches about investment, trading. If people avoid gambling in front of kids because they are afraid that kids will grow up addicted to gambling and lose money. Then why Monopoly is different? Because kids might grow up addicted to trading and lose money. Wikipedia says Monopoly is suited for +8 yo.

Monopoly is different because of the pace of the game, first of all. Anyone who ever played this game knows that there's no rush, you can take your time to think about your next move. I think it's possible that because of playing Monopoly some kids might grow up addicted to trading and lose money later, but it's very unlikely.

But it works in the same way according to many. That "possible" and "might" turns into obligatory. There are parents whos idea is to teach kids investing as early as possible, so they wont miss opportunity to buy "potential next big thing" (like bitcoin) for 1 dollar, and sell it later for 65k (like same bitcoin). On the other hand people say that newbies should learn to trade/invest/dyor. How come kids do that? No how. So they are pushing kids on something impossible. The monopoly is just an instrument of teaching. Like playing blackjack to kill time, while it parallel teach them to count till 21. In the end we get monopoly suited for kids and gambling strongly not.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Canelo Alvarez - Jaime Munguia May 4 Super Middleweight Championship on: May 05, 2024, 06:45:08 PM
Really? You really consider that Munguia was that bad in this fight? I think he did great. I think the fight result (score) should be more close; at least not 117-110 as one of the judges gave. If Munguia was really so bad as you say, the fight would not go full distance. But, Jaime walked forward like a tank, simple boxing, and still fight went full distance. I liked how Jaime set high fight tempo.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: May 05, 2024, 06:31:14 PM
Fun fact about Steve Erceg - he has started his career almost at the same time as Belal Muhammad. Erceg never said a word about title fight and got it. Belal talked a lot about it (even wore a tshirt with sign "I am next") and still is not even close to having a title fight Cheesy lol I think I will stop making fun of Belal only if he wins belt and defends it.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: May 03, 2024, 10:09:43 AM
Remember when during the walk to octagon Tsarukyan, on ufc 300 tried to punch (or managed to punch) a fan? Now athletic comission is on him for doing that. This is considered as an assault and now his reward for ufc 300 is blocked. Not sure if blocked is the right word (translating it from Russian media), but he gets no more until they sort this case and find way to punish him.

It was during that time when Arman Tsarukyan and Diego Lopez both withheld their purse and the UFC 300 Repercussion continued as both might get Disiplined because of their act Arman Tsarukyan should be held accountable even though the fan was a bit negative towards him he should withheld it to himself as it is part of this industries ups and downs there will be a fan that will like and dislike you so you need to keep it down low, while for me Diego Lopez might have gotten a bigger offense for just climbing up the fence and going over it while there is no audience that was hurt Diego Lopez is a newly fighter and he badly needed that money to pay for his trainers and is camp for me it is not fair for him to have the same punishment.


I have read in the media, that Lopez asked Dana if he could jump on the fence and Dana allowed him. It was written that Lopez is going to get fined for 5k for that, and Dana would cover that fine. While with Lopez it is clear and allowing him to jump would only play positive for the UFC image. But Trying to punch the fan because he showed you middle finger isnt right. Arman should understand that not everyone in the venue was there to support him. If he cant control his emotions, then he is not a professional.
8  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Продолжение адопшена биткойна on: May 03, 2024, 08:11:51 AM
Возвращаясь к теме "Продолжение адопшена биткойна".

Прослушал выступление на BTCPrague  сооснователя BTC Map.

Основная мысль, которой пронизано его выступление - массовое  принятие  биткойна  нельзя рассматривать всерьёз  без постоянной и повсеместной его траты по всему миру где только возможно и на что только возможно.

По его мнению необходима смена пардигмы HODL на SPEDL - расшифровывается как  "Spend Prudently Every Day Now" - "тратьте разумно каждый день прямо сейчас".

По-видимому он прав. Биткойны в кубышке не способствут адопшену биткойна.
Идея Сатоши точно не заключалась в том, чтобы биткоин годами холдили, но сейчас все происходит именно так, его покупают, накапливают, то есть большое количество монет может быть сосредоточено в одних руках, как это делает долгое время Сейлор, или сейчас даже более быстрыми темпами Блэкрок.

Ну и для того чтобы тратить должны быть созданы условия для населения, чтобы биткоин был доступным для каждого, когда на улицах будет достаточно криптоматов, и каждый сможет купить биткоин, прямо на улице. Хотят тут еще нужно понимать людям зачем это делать, если они все то же самое могут сделать с фиатом.

Во-во. Интересная мысля. Кто вообще тратит битки сейчас? Есть ведь куча мест где можно битком заплатить. А что мы имеем в итоге? Неделю две назад пользоваться битком было дорого и все тупо сидели и выжидали. Кто-то тупо холдит. Кто-то, как Сальвадор, накапливает биток, чтобы продемонстрировать финансовое благосостояние государства, и скорее всего под этот биток получать какие-то гарантии. Кто-то трейдит; купил-продал-сальдо вложил в другую крипту и опять ждет роста, чтобы из ничего генерировать богатство. И как мне кажется, есть какое-то меньшинство, кто реально использует биток для оплаты. Афигенный такой адопшен.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: May 03, 2024, 08:04:18 AM
And this is up to them, but it is better not to play in front of children. And many parents don't gamble, but they tell or give advice that gambling or slot games are not good, because slot gambling is the most popular. This makes people who are unfamiliar with slot games know about slot games but in a negative way. And this makes parents worry, even makes them the object of ridicule because of its popularity and also makes many people addicted and makes them miserable.

I will ask again, why it is better not to play in front of them? Nobody here can give an explanation without using word "addiction". Well you are no seer. You cant see future. You can predict it. You can do or do not whatever you want in front of a kid, but he will grow up as a firefighter. You never know what your kid will be. You can not live his life and completely decide his future. But, you can give directions.

Simple examples: eat vegetables in front of kids, when there are candies on the table. Think they will eat them to? When kids watches something on his device or play video games - start vacuum cleaning the house. Think they will join you? Absolutely not. But according to your logic kid will get addicted to vegetables and cleaning.
Kids learn by imitation, anyone that has learned a new language knows how difficult it can be, and kids despite having no previous frame of reference learn how to do it, but how is it done? They listen to you and then imitate the sounds you make, and they do this will all kind of activities as well, so while it is not a sure thing that a kid will learn how to gamble by just watching an adult to do it, the chance is there, and since it is unhealthy for a kid to gamble at such an early age, it is better to hide those activities from them at such an early stage on their development.

Accepted, kids learn by imitating things. Copy/pasting. What we get from that? Parents must behave properly, and kids will copy that. Exactly that idea I am trying to promote here. Explain them what is gambling. That it is for fun only and guess what, like you have said, that will gamble for fun. I am also promoting here that kids are very selective. Why do you even think that they will imitate gambling? They dont imitate 100% what their parents do. If there were like that, they would try to drive a car on their own for example. From media we get only exceptional cases when underaged kid  somehow managed to get keys, start car, drive and do something bad. How many cases we get like that among millions of kids, whos parents drive them somewhere daily? Or do you suggest never to drive a car in front if kids, because they will want to drive it also?

10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It’s unlikely that anyone besides you will be happy with your winnings. on: May 03, 2024, 07:50:10 AM
Such envy feeling actually is quite easy to solve. Using winnings, buy everyone a drink and they would be your best friends. People are really fallen for something free. I have proved that to myself many times. If you are in a bad relationship with hardly known person or expect a talk, buy him a coffee, spend 5 bucks and you will be amazed how such cheap investment changes attitude.
I'm surprised about what you wrote, and if you think buying them things will change the mind of an envious friend, then you are kidding. Well, this may be true for some people who do not envy the person but just want to partake in the winning no matter how little. It is now good to show kind gestures to such people with good hearts, though it is not mandatory as you owe no one anything, it's your winning, so it's your choice. But when envy is now included, then it becomes a different issues that is so problematic. Envious people do not get pacified easily, they are not just happy about your success and not about you depriving them of something.

They hate and will always wish they were in your position, so do you think that buying drinks for such people will make that go? Then you are not being sincere here, they actually don't like you smile no matter what you do. However, if you sense the calibre of people around you are showing that kind of trait, the best thing is to be discrete in what you do. Not letting them know when you win or smile could be the only solution here, or else, they could be dangerous unspeakably at times.

Maybe I simply good at negotiations Cool Dunno, somehow I have managed to solve most of life problems with little expenses. Maybe I am just lucky. Maybe I am surrounded with right people. But I had experience when people were jealous for my success, maybe they have thoughts to rob me, or to do harm. A little gift, a little share, a little attention to them always helped me to "get out dry from water". Maybe I am raised with idea to share. If win a million, I would definitely not going to share all of it with those who are around, but definitely going to make them a little happier. Or, maybe I havent been in a situation when people really envy me.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: May 03, 2024, 07:41:57 AM
Remember when during the walk to octagon Tsarukyan, on ufc 300 tried to punch (or managed to punch) a fan? Now athletic comission is on him for doing that. This is considered as an assault and now his reward for ufc 300 is blocked. Not sure if blocked is the right word (translating it from Russian media), but he gets no more until they sort this case and find way to punish him.

He explained his reasons punching/attempting to punch the guy here:
https://youtu.be/Kb3aNNeiaY4?si=gkvQRpkQviQTaYTt&t=168

I kind of understand him, we're all humans, if you're flipping a middle finger to the other guy and disrespect him, you should expect some violence. On the other hand, when he publicly announced that he will keep responding like that to fans' provocations, he's guaranteed to have more of them in his next fights.

According to the DailyStar, he only got an equivalent of £28,000 withheld by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which is 20% of his £126,000 earnings from the fight. Source:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ufc/arman-tsarukyan-punches-fan-ufc-32713844

Now we have something else to talk about. £126k?? Seriously?? For a fight in the most hyped-up UFC event in recent years? I understand he might be getting some other share of gate/PPV on the top, but come on, that's really low if true.

Lol, Ive just found a perfect picture for that:


If he really got only 126k gbp, then we all know the reason for that - his contract. We dont know what he has signed. He has only 11 fights in ufc. As we know that fighters start with 3 fight contracts and 10+10 and advance slowly. Since his first 3 fights ended with 2-1 record, I think he has got 10+10 again. Probably. Then Ive heard fighters get 30+30 and 60+60. So his 126k gbp seems true.

Anyway, if we look at his Instagram account, he is not poor and live life that cost more than 126k gbp Cheesy However, year ago I have watched his interview from training camp in Thailand, and he lived quite a modest life. Small bungalow or room. He has told that camp cost him around $5k in total (tickets, coaches, food, accommodation) and that was a good amount to spend for him. Not like he can easily get $5k out of the pocket, but also not living on rice and water after such expenses.
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: May 02, 2024, 12:05:14 PM
I believe they had this even dedicated to UFC 300 only. I have missed 5 bucks freebet that they gave and wanted to use it later. But like you have, all the picks are closed and there is no new event picks added. I think simply duelbits forgot to remove that link and line from the bar on the left Cheesy

Why I think this promotion is over - because in Sports>MMA section they already have a new UFC events added, but UFC Jackpot has nothing.

I can perfectly understand it. On their own platform they can do whatever they want regarding giveaways: they can stop them abruptly, they can reconsider the prize pool, the number of paid places in the leader-board and so on. To me the only thing that was confusing is "Better luck next week!" part.



I thought it was kinda a promise that I will be able to continue, but apparently it meant something else.

No complaints from my end. As I said, I think they have all the right to do whatever they want regarding giveaways on their own platform.

I was wrong (can I be wrong?Cheesy). I really though that UFC 300 was their last event for free bets. Big event, great number. Though that "better luck next week" was just their template text for such screen. Then I dont understand how their promotion work. Last event from their list is "UFC Fight Night: Nicolau vs. Perez". It was almost week ago. In two days there is going to be UFC 301 in Brazil, and it will be nice if they open predictions now, so that we have more time to think and dont make it random blind picking. But...
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lies told to cover up gambling habit on: May 02, 2024, 11:52:46 AM
If our partner finds out that we are actively gambling and spending a lot of money, we will certainly be angry, on the other hand, if we win, they will be happy and enjoy it.  Roll Eyes

Sounds like one partner must ask other partner for acceptance to do something. Such relationships isnt healthy. If a husband ask wife if he could go out gambling, go fishing or with friends to bar, then in such relationship wife has balls Cheesy Imho it is correct no to ask something, but warn. Warn husband or wife that you will be gambling, you will take 100 bucks and we can afford that, and that is it. Warning others that you gamble might save from loosing to much in one night. Also, lying to someone that is very close you, that is totally wrong. If I lie to my wife, I would feel uncomfortable after that. But in general, why would an adult hide that he gambles? Absurd to me.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: May 02, 2024, 11:42:14 AM
Similar to Jose Aldo return, I think we deserve Glover Texeira to have one last fight also. He is still young (44 only he-he Cheesy Arlovski is 45 and is still fighting). Why I want him back, because imho he did not get enough respect from fans. I think it was him retiring in front of empty venue (or people were leaving). Even though that fight was in Brazil, I think his compatriots should farewell him properly. That would be fair.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It’s unlikely that anyone besides you will be happy with your winnings. on: May 02, 2024, 11:30:48 AM
Such envy feeling actually is quite easy to solve. Using winnings, buy everyone a drink and they would be your best friends. People are really fallen for something free. I have proved that to myself many times. If you are in a bad relationship with hardly known person or expect a talk, buy him a coffee, spend 5 bucks and you will be amazed how such cheap investment changes attitude.

True, the fact is that with money you can change everything or overcome any problem including changing this feeling to sympathy, and this will really happen when you are able to understand about the situation and circumstances, or that means you have to understand that they want something from you and not just pride because you won, they don't need something that can only be heard, but they also need something to taste.

This means that if you're bragging to people about something like gambling where you're really lucky and you've won a big win then you should at least give them a share, not a big share but at least give them some money from the winnings that they can enjoy, like you said which might be buying them a free cup of coffee, and with this then I think everything will still be fine, but if the scenario is that you're just bragging about the winnings without giving them any share then this is “something else”.

I understood that topic was not about bragging at all. People are just envy for other persons success. I notice many times, that when you achieve something difficult, something big, or win big, people always think that you are just a lucky mfker. Rarely they see all the work done by you before final result. But when you give them a little share of your reward, treat them with something free of charge, or just say "yes I am lucky, but get what, I believe you are going to catch your luck soon also", completely changes attitude.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: May 02, 2024, 11:24:45 AM
And this is up to them, but it is better not to play in front of children. And many parents don't gamble, but they tell or give advice that gambling or slot games are not good, because slot gambling is the most popular. This makes people who are unfamiliar with slot games know about slot games but in a negative way. And this makes parents worry, even makes them the object of ridicule because of its popularity and also makes many people addicted and makes them miserable.

I will ask again, why it is better not to play in front of them? Nobody here can give an explanation without using word "addiction". Well you are no seer. You cant see future. You can predict it. You can do or do not whatever you want in front of a kid, but he will grow up as a firefighter. You never know what your kid will be. You can not live his life and completely decide his future. But, you can give directions.

Simple examples: eat vegetables in front of kids, when there are candies on the table. Think they will eat them to? When kids watches something on his device or play video games - start vacuum cleaning the house. Think they will join you? Absolutely not. But according to your logic kid will get addicted to vegetables and cleaning.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: May 01, 2024, 07:25:28 AM
Playing gambling in front of children is the same as teaching children to gamble because children are good imitators. So stop gambling in front of you because the impact will be very big on his education. Gambling is something that is not good, even for adults gambling can have bad consequences, especially for children, of course their minds are not smart enough to see the negative impacts of gambling.

Impact on education - playing blackjack might teach them to count to 21 quickly Grin
Kids are imitators, but they dont imitate everything parents do. If they were complete imitators, parents would never punish then for misbehave. Or we would have little 7yo adults. Ever imagined how people in countryside live? What they do with pigs, sheeps, cows or chicken when they are hungry? Strange that we dont have little maniacs that see adult kill animals for food.

Anyway, show me an example of any kid who is addicted to gamble. But not use gambling as just a method to get some easy money.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It’s unlikely that anyone besides you will be happy with your winnings. on: May 01, 2024, 07:13:53 AM
Such envy feeling actually is quite easy to solve. Using winnings, buy everyone a drink and they would be your best friends. People are really fallen for something free. I have proved that to myself many times. If you are in a bad relationship with hardly known person or expect a talk, buy him a coffee, spend 5 bucks and you will be amazed how such cheap investment changes attitude.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Your Country Who Gamble More? Young Ones or Elderly Ones on: May 01, 2024, 07:09:30 AM
Why do you think young people have higher need in money than elder? Who are those young people anyway? 20-25 yo? All they want is new sport car, new iphone, 2-3room flat in the center and a pc probably. I would say that their “I need, I want list” is way more shorter than elders have. If young gamble for money, then they most probably do it low budget and stop when they get 1-5k. I would say that there are more young because of online casinos, and they be more friendly with gadgets.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: May 01, 2024, 07:04:30 AM
Remember when during the walk to octagon Tsarukyan, on ufc 300 tried to punch (or managed to punch) a fan? Now athletic comission is on him for doing that. This is considered as an assault and now his reward for ufc 300 is blocked. Not sure if blocked is the right word (translating it from Russian media), but he gets no more until they sort this case and find way to punish him.
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