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1  Bitcoin / Electrum / Windows installation errors when trying to update Electrum wallet. on: April 13, 2021, 12:36:07 PM
Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade my older 3.4 Electrum wallet to the latest version for windows.
I've verified the installer and the program downloads from the Electrum site, but when I try run it, I'm getting several installation errors and the program will not completely install or open.

I tried to log on the the older version of my wallet, but kept getting and incorrect password error. I know I've entered it correctly and tried several times.

I finally just decided to delete the older wallet and restore my wallet from my 12 word seed, but I can't get the new version to work on my windows desktop computer.

Any ideas what might be go'in on here?

Thanks
2  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Verifing Signature File for Electrum Download - Where do I find it? on: January 29, 2020, 04:20:27 PM
Does it matter that I'm using Firefox. It keeps trying to save it as a text file. Should I be using Explorer  instead? Thanks.
Renaming the extension should work. If you are using windows then to see extension follow this instructions: https://www.howtohaven.com/system/show-file-extensions-in-windows-explorer.shtml

If you keep failing then I will recommend to download notepad++ and with this you can easily save .asc extension.

I hope it helps.

Thanks Royse. I believe I got it right. The verify files window in Kleopatra came up green after all operations completed at 100% and the Primary key fingerprint numbers matched up. Thanks again for your help.  Smiley
3  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Verifing Signature File for Electrum Download - Where do I find it? on: January 29, 2020, 03:41:28 PM
where do I find the signature file? Thanks.
Here: https://electrum.org/#download
Check on the third column of the table.

Chose the one which goes with your OS of course.



Here you will find some instructions of the process to verify it: https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-verify-your-electrum-download/

Does it matter that I'm using Firefox. It keeps trying to save it as a text file. Should I be using Explorer  instead? Thanks.
4  Bitcoin / Electrum / Verifing Signature File for Electrum Download - Where do I find it? on: January 29, 2020, 03:11:47 PM
Hi,
So I download the latest version of Electrum and want to verify the download.
 
On the instructions is says I need to download Electrum and the signature for the file, where do I find the signature file? Thanks.

Ok found it, ugg, right next to the download. The instructions say to save them in the same file, how do I do that? Also, which should I use the "Installer" or "StandAlone Exe" version. I'm using Windows. Sorry to be such a noob, just try'in to get it right.
5  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: How to remove additional Commission? on: January 29, 2020, 02:34:00 PM
It's not a large amount, about $700, but that's what I was concerned about, the additional fees associated with having a 2FA wallet. Is SegWit a different wallet than Electrum? How do I find some information about it?

Electrum is free, but the 2FA option is not because it is provided by TrustedCoin, which is just an option that offers extra security. If you want to use Electrum at no extra cost, then don't use the 2FA option - you have less security, but everything has its price today.

SegWit is just an option in Electrum, it allows you to create a wallet with an address that starts with bc1 (native SegWit), same as you have the option to use an address that starts with 1 (Legacy wallet). With SegWit you will pay lower fees, and many use that type of address today just because they want to save some money on fees.

I suggest you read the Electrum FAQ with understanding - most of the answers to your questions are right there.

Frequently Asked Questions -Electrum
SegWit

Thanks Lucius. So I should be ok with the SegWit option? I've read that it's becoming pretty common to use that type of wallet. If I'm receiving BTC, will the sender have any trouble sending BTC to me or will they have to have a SegWit type wallet too? Thanks.
6  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: How to remove additional Commission? on: January 29, 2020, 01:35:25 PM
I haven't used the very old versions but you should consider creating a new standard or (better) SegWit wallet instead of disabling 2FA.
It'll save you a lot of fee because multisig are quite heavy when it comes with transaction size/weight.
Then, send the funds to that wallet.

If you want to disable 2FA, just do what the previous reply stated, specifically this one:
When you created the wallet, it gave you a backup seed. Create a new wallet in Electrum selecting "Restore from seed", write the backup seed and when asked, select "disable 2FA". You will then have to use this new wallet, because your current one will remain 2FA protected.

It will be a disabled 2FA wallet with 2 out of the 3 set of private keys for each addresses.
That way you can sign any transaction without needing Trusted coin to cosign.

It should generate the same set of addresses as your 2FA wallet and obviously, the same balance after being synced.
I believe what OmegaStarScream is talking about "if you have huge funds" is 2FA's security is better than standard wallet.
So you better keep that huge sum of money in a more secure type of wallet.

It's not a large amount, about $700, but that's what I was concerned about, the additional fees associated with having a 2FA wallet. Is SegWit a different wallet than Electrum? How do I find some information about it?
7  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: How to remove additional Commission? on: January 29, 2020, 12:53:42 PM
When I first set up my initial wallet, I didn't use 2FA. I upgraded to a new computer, restored my wallet from seed and this time I did use 2FA. Now my wallet is show receiving transactions that are not "confirmed" and have been like that for quite some time.
It's not possible to do that, you shouldn't be able to restore a non-2FA seed into a 2FA wallet.
If you successfully done exactly that, your current Electrum might be fake. What it the version displayed in the executable?
And please verify the signature.

If I create a new wallet from seed without 2FA, will I be able transfer my BTC over to it without any problems since the old wallet will remain a 2FA one? Won't the old wallet request the 2FA before I can transfer my BTC to the new one?
Now, this scenario is vice versa...
Your bitcoin won't be transferred like being sent from the old wallet to the newly restored one.
It wasn't kept in the wallet, your wallet contains the keys to spend your bitcoins which are stored in the blockchain,
your balance will be the same after syncing the new wallet since it will generate the same set of multisig addresses whether you enable or disable 2fa.

There are a couple of inconsistencies in your question though Lips sealed

Hello and thanks for your reply. You're right, I guess I'm a bit confused on what type of wallet I initially had downloaded. My first Electrum wallet was downloaded on an old windows XP machine. I received 3 deposits on it, checked to make sure they were there and then didn't do anything else with it. I never sent any BTC on it and was scared to even open up the wallet for fear of it being compromised from phishing attacks, possible viruses, fake link downloads, etc... The wallet was an old version too, and I didn't wanna chance updating it on an old computer.

I got a newer desktop Windows 7, (I know, now outdated too) and restored my wallet from seed. I did verify the download via Kleopatra and got a valid ThomasV signature  with a correct fingerprint numbers match.

So I'm using a 2FA wallet, what steps do I need to take to remove 2FA Authentication and transfer my BTC to a new wallet? You're saying the new wallet will sync with the old one? Thanks again.
8  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: How to remove additional Commission? on: January 29, 2020, 11:18:41 AM
I haven't done the transaction yet. And if I disable it, will the Commission be taken in the future?

You won't need to pay any extra fees if you disable the 2FA. You can easily do that by simply restoring your wallet using your seed.

I wouldn't recommend doing that though, especially if you have a large amount stored in that wallet.

Hi, I'm in the same situation. I would like to disable 2FA so I won't have to pay extra fees, and I also don't have Google Authenticator on my new phone, but you're saying don't do that if I have a large amount stored in my wallet? Why is that? What other options do I have? I have my password and seed for my wallet.

When I first set up my initial wallet, I didn't use 2FA. I upgraded to a new computer, restored my wallet from seed and this time I did use 2FA. Now my wallet is show receiving transactions that are not "confirmed" and have been like that for quite some time.

If I create a new wallet from seed without 2FA, will I be able transfer my BTC over to it without any problems since the old wallet will remain a 2FA one? Won't the old wallet request the 2FA before I can transfer my BTC to the new one?

Appreciate the help, I'm still kinda new at this and just trying to figure out the best way to go. Thanks.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to sign a message?! on: June 07, 2019, 12:29:29 AM
Basically, you would need to create a completely new wallet... with a completely new seed.

"File -> New\Restore -> Standard Wallet -> Create a new seed"

You can choose "SegWit" or "Legacy" during setup:


Be aware that using Native SegWit (aka Bech32 aka "bc1") addresses *may* cause issues (as noted on the dialog) with some services and wallets (block explorers, exchanges, gambling sites etc) that do NOT as yet support "bc1" addresses Undecided

Using "Legacy" addresses means you won't have any compatibility issues, but can result in slightly "larger" transactions that may mean you pay more in transaction fees.

I've read a little about SegWit, so you're saying it's still kinda new and those addresses (Bech32 & bc1) may not be supported at certain cites, Legacy is the standard, but might result in higher transaction fees? Which one would you recommend?

I've planned on using "Replace By Fee" RBF option, so as to not have transactions get stuck or unconfirmed. I've also seen now that Electrum has a "mempool" option. Would it be better to use one or both of these in conjunction with SegWit or Legacy?

So when I create a new Electrum wallet, will I be able to transfer my bitcoin from the old one to the new one and then delete the old one, without issues? Sorry for all the noob questions, just trying to figure this thing out. I'm just kinda concerned if I download a new Electrum wallet, will it conflict or replace the old one?

Thanks again for your kind help.
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to sign a message?! on: June 06, 2019, 10:24:17 PM
"Cannot sign messages with this type of address: p2sh
Signing with an address actually means signing with the corresponding private key, and verifying with the corresponding public key. The address you have entered does not have a unique public key, so these operations cannot be performed.
The operation is undefined. Not just in Electrum, but in general."
P2SH = Pay to Script Hash... These addresses will start with a "3".

As per the error message, P2SH addresses aren't necessarily created based on a single "private/public key"... Because of this, you cannot sign a message using these addresses as there is not public/private key to be able to sign the message with.


Given that you're using Electrum, I would guess that you're either using a MultiSig wallet or, more likely, a "2FA" wallet (which is a special type of multisig)... these are actually created by combining multiple keys together to create the P2SH scripts.

You need to use "Legacy" ("1"-type addresses) or Native Segwit (aka bech32 aka "bc1"-type addresses) to be able to sign messages.

Hi and thanks for your reply.

When I initially download and set up my wallet, I did set it up as "2FA", which is 2 factor authentication I believe, and used the Google Authentication app with the QR type code. My old computer hard drive crashed and I used my 12 word seed to recover my wallet and update to to the latest version.

When I set up my wallet up on my new computer, I got a message stating that 2 factor Authentication (2FA) was turned off or not available because this wallet was recovered from seed.

Can you explain to me what I need to do to use "Legacy" or "Native Segwit" type Addresses to get this message signature thing to work?

Thanks.  Smiley   
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to sign a message?! on: June 06, 2019, 09:55:56 PM
I'm just learning about this Bitcoin Signature thing. I've read Shorena's thread tutorial from the beginning and want to go ahead and sign a message and have it verified. I'm kinda confused on which Address to use. Do I just use one from my list?  I'm using Electrum as my wallet. Also, do I just copy and paste the completed signed message from the Electrum page here?
To sign a message, you can use any address in your Electrum wallet to do it. However, before signing a message, you should remember to back up seeds of your wallet for later recovery. It sounds ridiculous if you sign a message from a wallet that you don't have control of its seeds. Then, in worst situation (such as computer broken) the sign message has zero value for your account here.
Moreover, if you have more than one devices, I suggest you to sign at least 2 messages from two different wallets - that stored on two devices. It is the way to decentralize risks of losing wallet control from technical issues of your devices and your backups.

Note:
- Don't include email in your message (to avoid phising links later)
- Place to sign your message: Stake your bitcoin address here. Please use the format in the OP of that topic.


Yes, just choose one address from the list to sign a message from it. It's a very friendly use in Electrum on sign/verify messages.

Yes, you have to copy and paste the following three elements so another user can verify it:
- Signed message.
- Address used.
- Signature.

Don't forget to add actual date to your message; it's the proof that you just did it now, not in the past. This is just a recommendation, not a must-do.

Hello again,

Ok I followed everything to the letter, Wrote a specific message in that section with date and time, Inserted one of my bitcoin addresses in the the Address section, proceeded to the Signature section of my Electrum messaged and clicked Sign, got the pop up window requesting my password, I entered my password and clicked, "ok", but instead of adding the signature, I got this pop up.


"Cannot sign messages with this type of address: p2sh
Signing with an address actually means signing with the corresponding private key, and verifying with the corresponding public key. The address you have entered does not have a unique public key, so these operations cannot be performed.
The operation is undefined. Not just in Electrum, but in general."


I'm using one of my Addresses that says "receiving" just to the left of the Address. There are about 20 of them and I used one that has not been previously used before.

Also, at the bottom of the list of Address, there are 6 that say "Change" to the left of the Addresses instead of  "Receiving".

I tried one of those and got the same pop up window as before.

Am I missing something here or entering something incorrectly? I have no idea what "p2sh" means.

I'm using Electrum version 3.3.4 and have had no problems receiving 3 different deposits of bitcoin and my balance total is showing correctly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again.  Smiley
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to sign a message?! on: June 05, 2019, 01:56:55 AM
Hi Everyone,

I'm just learning about this Bitcoin Signature thing. I've read Shorena's thread tutorial from the beginning and want to go ahead and sign a message and have it verified. I'm kinda confused on which Address to use. Do I just use one from my list?  I'm using Electrum as my wallet. Also, do I just copy and paste the completed signed message from the Electrum page here?

Thanks.
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