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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, back from a long long break on: November 22, 2014, 08:44:59 PM
Hi Pierre,

yeah I think I was lucky.. i had to sell them back then so yeah jackpot..

I did use the rest to send money to some people and at one point I bought a gift card and bought the same amount on bitcoin using coinbase. As an attempt to alway have the same bitcoin balance and contribute to bitcoin usage.

I am know thinking about buying a couple coins if it goes to 300.

I have seen some charts showing money flow, moving averages, etc etc... and it looks like bitcoin may go higher after touching a support level.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
Can someone explain the added value of Xapo over typical fiat currency denoted debit cards?

The number of currency conversions is the same or even higher. Is there a difference in conversions fees between letīs say BTC--> EUR or USD --> EUR ?
The only advantage I see is for people without a bank account.

Thanks

Well, I just got schooled by caribbeanbitcoiner here haha

So it doesn't have an added value I believe compared to using fiat cards. What it does, it opens up the possibility of using your bitcoin anywhere.

If they take debit cards, now they take bitcoin thanks to Xapo.

My initial concern was over making bitcoin more acceptable. The above does not open bitcoin to the merchant as the merchant will not even know bitcoin was used as payment.

Basically the merchant charges Xapo, Xapo charges you and takes form your Bitcoin stash. Simple as that.

Check their website regarding conversion and fees.




3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 08:26:52 PM
What ? a Physical real Bitcoin Debit card ? Shocked Can you link me to that please , how to get one
https://xapo.com/

Looks very professional! Will do some research into it.

Please do so and let us know... anybody can create a professional looking website now Tongue
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Circle is it a game changer? on: November 22, 2014, 08:25:56 PM
Insurance and terms

https://www.circle.com/en/user-agreement

 insurance policy with Marsh Insurance


Thanks, do you use Circle? if so, overall experience?
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 08:07:05 PM

The point is you get to spend your at a place where they won't normally take btc. Most businesses aren't going to accept Bitcoins based on the fact that it's new, unregulated and the creator is unknown.

Well, I think you just won the post Tongue

I guess I was going for having the merchant be part of the bitcoin cycle but you are right.

Haha, I didn't win. We just got into a healthy little debate.  Grin

 Roll Eyes

Do you use Xapo?
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, back from a long long break on: November 22, 2014, 07:18:17 PM
Welcome back  in the community  Smiley , have you seen the bitcoin price ?

Hi Smiley Thanks, and yes... the price is right back where I bought my first one Tongue

I had to sell back in december and february due to personal stuff haha glad I did, But I kept a coin and change

Have have you been?

True.. I heard of cloud mining.. is it really profitable? (coin price, difficulty, energy price, etc.)

don't do it. most are ponzi's. if you want to mine 'on a cloud' use a p2p service.
True.. I heard of cloud mining.. is it really profitable? (coin price, difficulty, energy price, etc.)

The best bet IMO is to try out with a few bucks. Some people are reporting them as profitable, some are not. My personal opinion is it is way better than hardware mining. And I have experienced that anything new in Bitcoin world turns out to be profitable for early adopters. If u delay for other's judgement, u may miss the boat.

I am not really interested in mining as in buying or selling stuff or earning through work. But never say never.. who knows
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, back from a long long break on: November 22, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
True.. I heard of cloud mining.. is it really profitable? (coin price, difficulty, energy price, etc.)
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 06:05:53 PM

The point is you get to spend your at a place where they won't normally take btc. Most businesses aren't going to accept Bitcoins based on the fact that it's new, unregulated and the creator is unknown.

Well, I think you just won the post Tongue

I guess I was going for having the merchant be part of the bitcoin cycle but you are right.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if ... on: November 22, 2014, 05:58:18 PM
So basically like the world bank?
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
But Xapo I don't think is the solution..

The way I think works.. is transaction happens in Fiat at the POS... XAPO just takes the exact amount plus a fee from your bitcoin bag.

The Bitcoins only travel between XAPO and the Bitcoiner. Not through the Merchant.. I believe and correct me if I am wrong.

So this is not a solution at all. For Bitcoin to spread its wings, the coins need to flow through The Merchant, The POS AND The bitcoiner or bitcoiner-ette.

In Xapo's case, the merchant never sees the coins.. so what is the point?
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 05:23:14 PM
Not a fan of implementing debit cards that accept bitcoin.  Undecided

Why not? Why wouldn't Bitcoin adopt all forms AND create new ones too.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of businesses participating in Bitcoin Black Friday? on: November 22, 2014, 05:19:47 PM
+1
13  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Circle is it a game changer? on: November 22, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Is this finally what we need for mainstream consumer use.

A wallet that connects to my bank account and all my bitcoin is insured, mobile app on the way.

https://www.circle.com/



insured how? what happens if they go bankrupt with huge amounts of coins disappeared? customers get back most of it 1.5 years later, if the insurance company is still around?

Great question.. we have seen many companies come and go leaving a trail of tears...

Who insures this company? What are the terms.

So this is the Paypal of the Bitcoin world. How does Circle make money? Can they explain that?

"You shouldn't have to pay fees to use your own money. We don't charge fees when you convert funds to or from bitcoin with a linked bank account, when you store your bitcoin, or for bitcoin transactions." <-- from the website.
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin hype is over on: November 22, 2014, 05:13:53 PM


Wow great flashes from the past... Thanks Melbustus!
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newcomers must watch on: November 22, 2014, 05:06:34 PM
+1
16  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, back from a long long break on: November 22, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Hi everyone,

I have been gone for most of the year Tongue And I see Bitcoin is almost right back at when I started learning about it lol



Welcome back!
You should look at the altcoin market now.
It is a lot more saturated than what it was before you left.

I know! it is just amazing how easily coins can be created... or perhaps it is not that easy but is in fashion now..

cryptsy must be making tons of money lol

Any good ones out there?

btw, I was gone since February I think... Tongue
17  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I earn BTC when people visit my website on: November 22, 2014, 04:56:47 AM
Have no idea, I'm as newbie as you Grin

well, being a newbie means that you could bring fresh ideas
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 04:51:27 AM
yeah, im sure it is more complicated than that but the general idea I think is great.

I bet some older folks have already thought and maybe came up with something.. Would like to hear from more experienced people on the fallbacks..
19  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, back from a long long break on: November 22, 2014, 04:49:14 AM
Looks like nothing is there on that page Tongue
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on the Bitcoin Debit Card? on: November 22, 2014, 04:18:31 AM

It might be a step back but businesses aren't going to implement a whole new payment system for just one currency when swiping a Card is 10 times easier and currently implemented.


Exactly right Smiley

We are talking about those small sized shops that won't update their systems because they cannot afford them. A plastic bitcoin card would be way to bring bitcoin to them.
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