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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to stay safe when dealing with exchanges (for beginners). on: October 22, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
This is not the first time that something bad happens to me on an exchange when depositing/withdraw or trade coins/tokens. I try to avoid this exchanges next time but some of the coins/tokens are listed or have a decent volume only there.

There are a few easy steps when dealing with an exchange to be safe:

- Add 2FA authentication to your account and any other available security measures like anti-phishing password, etc.
- Always triple check everything, especially coin info page if available, addresses, amounts, fees...
- Never deposit your entire stack in one transaction.
- Send first small amount and check if everything works (transfer, trading, withdrawal).
- If everything works still continue with smaller amounts (smaller amounts equals smaller headache). 
- Withdraw each time before next deposit.
- Never leave your coins on the exchange.
- Always remember this is not a wallet and is not secure.
- Never use exchange addresses for bounty or airdrop payments.
- Check exchange social media pages, especially Twitter and Facebook before trading, deposit, withdraw, etc.(read new complaints and which coins to avoid).

This list is growing every time I have a new problem with an exchange so it will be updated frequently  Wink.

Already experienced all kinds of issues but luckily I was always able to withdraw. Sometimes with a big loss after a few months from the deposit.
Support works slow and they need almost 2 months on Cryptopia to answer the ticket of course with an automated message.

- When dealing with support try to wait (don't create multiple tickets).
- Try to get help using their official social media pages (sometimes works great, sometimes not).
- Be polite, don't lose your temper, provide all docs they ask.
- Don't give up when they say "no" be persistent if you think you are right and start all over again (took me 5 support tickets to resolve my case, 4 times rejected in a row).

Avoid small not established exchanges if you don't have to trade there. If we all stop using this scammy exchanges they will finally have to do something.
This will be an exit scam or they evolve and become a trusted exchange. With some volume, they make a lot of money on fees and listings and don't need to scam their clients additionally.

I hope my first guide/tutorial will help to save a few coins/tokens.

Hi crypto mania,

Great initiative!

We have recently written a Guide on Cryptocurrency Security Measures. Anything in there that you find helpful and would like to include in this thread? That would of course make us very happy.

All the best,
Cryptowisser


Thanks, Cryptowisser. Of course, I will add anything that could be useful.

If you think that there is a matching content from yours please don't hesitate to provide here and will add after review.

We can create a super guide if we merge threads together and later manually rewrite the content. It would be nice to create a guide nobody forget and members will show as an example.

If you want to talk about shoot me a PM or just write here.


2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to stay safe when dealing with exchanges (for beginners). on: October 22, 2018, 11:42:24 AM
If any exchange have something bad happens to me, this shows that it is not worthy of my trust. Once I withdraw, I will never go there again.
Exchanges that has been blacklisted by me:(These are my personal views, others may not think so)
FatBTC:No withdrawal channel after the token is removed.
Liqui:Change deposit address many times.
stocks: Withdraw fee too high. it is very very high.
yobit: Too many scam coins,and service attitude is very bad.
FCoin: Price manipulation, liar.
CoinBene:Too many MLM coins, and some of which are their own.

For the beginners, 3 points of advice.
1. Deposit security is always the first,So choose only those exchanges with good reputation, such as binance,Huobi. At least they won't swindle your money.
2. Be cautious about unfamiliar exchanges,especially for exchanges that you have not heard of, if you want to deposit, please be sure to deposit a small amount first.
3. Before depositing, it is important to check whether the address is accurate. If it is an ERC20 token, you need to check whether the contract address are consistent. I used to deposit the same name token. Unfortunately, they are different tokens, so my token is lost.

Thanks for sharing this scammy exchanges. I have quoted you to be sure that your post stays visible even if selected somehow.

Exactly that is why I wrote this guide to share some useful info about exchanges and tips on how to avoid problems.

If every member shares something useful in this thread we will finally have the best guide ever written  Wink
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Malware posted on BitcoinTalk on: October 21, 2018, 11:32:55 PM
The thief advertised the malware on BitcoinTalk

What does this mean? You bought some software off this person? It's an altcoin wallet? You clicked on a link?

Even if you don't want to go into details, giving us the outline of what happened may save someone else. It doesn't have to be identifying in any way.

This - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935898.0 is pinned at the top of the altcoin section. Was it one of these happenings?

I would never download anything from this site. If it's something coin related I'll go to the Github. If it's some random program I won't bother at all.

Exactly, share some more details on how this happens to warn other members and let us avoid such a mistake.

Was this a link, program, ad? How did this hack happen?

The best way is to learn from mistakes and avoid in the future. So share some more information to better understand this exploit.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Guide how stay safe on Cryptopia and other exchanges for beginners. on: October 21, 2018, 03:08:23 PM
I never had any issue yet on using cryptopia before and I think you must add 2FA authentication in your cryptopia account to protect your account from being compromised and always use a unique password to protect your account from other websites or email.

I use Cryptopia to exchange some bounties and to exchange my mining coins because some coins that I mining is only supported on Cryptopia and until now I still using it without any problem.

You are right added 2FA to my guide, thanks.


-snip-
Like I said:

"I try to avoid this exchange but some of the coins are listed or have a decent volume only there".

Why? I don't see any reason to avoid using this exchange.

Lucky you but as you can see I had quite a few problems when using this exchange. Of course few of them were my own fault like not checking the coin page and status of cryptocurrencies before use/transfer and many others/additional issues because of Cryptopia fault.

Like I said this guide is for every exchange and I would be personally happy to read it before my first deposit on Cryptopia.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Guide how stay safe on Cryptopia and other exchanges for beginners. on: October 21, 2018, 02:35:45 PM
I think the best solution is if you don't like that exchange is to never use it if you always face a problem there. I'm sure there's another exchange that also trade the cryptocurrency you have. Why would you still use the exchange if you always had a problem with their exchange?, the answer would be find another exchange and never use that again.

Like I said:

"I try to avoid this exchange but some of the coins are listed or have a decent volume only there".
6  Other / Beginners & Help / [Guide] How to stay safe when dealing with exchanges. on: October 21, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
This is not the first time that something bad happens to me on an exchange when depositing/withdraw or trade coins/tokens. I try to avoid this exchanges next time but some of the coins/tokens are listed or have a decent volume only there.

There are a few easy steps when dealing with an exchange to be safe:

- Add 2FA authentication to your account and any other available security measures like anti-phishing password, etc.
- Always triple check everything, especially coin info page if available, addresses, amounts, fees...
- Never deposit your entire stack in one transaction.
- Send first small amount and check if everything works (transfer, trading, withdrawal).
- If everything works still continue with smaller amounts (smaller amounts equals smaller headache).  
- Withdraw each time before next deposit.
- Never leave your coins on the exchange.
- Always remember this is not a wallet and is not secure.
- Never use exchange addresses for bounty or airdrop payments.
- Check exchange social media pages, especially Twitter and Facebook before trading, deposit, withdraw, etc.(read new complaints and which coins to avoid).

This list is growing every time I have a new problem with an exchange so it will be updated frequently  Wink.

Already experienced all kinds of issues but luckily I was always able to withdraw. Sometimes with a big loss after a few months from the deposit.
Support works slow and they need almost 2 months on Cryptopia to answer the ticket of course with an automated message.

- When dealing with support try to wait (don't create multiple tickets).
- Try to get help using their official social media pages (sometimes works great, sometimes not).
- Be polite, don't lose your temper, provide all docs they ask.
- Don't give up when they say "no" be persistent if you think you are right and start all over again (took me 5 support tickets to resolve my case, 4 times rejected in a row).

Avoid small not established exchanges if you don't have to trade there. If we all stop using this scammy exchanges they will finally have to do something.
This will be an exit scam or they evolve and become a trusted exchange. With some volume, they make a lot of money on fees and listings and don't need to scam their clients additionally.

I hope my first guide/tutorial will help to save a few coins/tokens.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▉ANN▉ MTNC ▉▉▉▉░ Masternodecoin ░▉▉▉ Multiple Privacy Center Platform on: October 21, 2018, 08:01:18 AM
170 masterternodes are currently online.  Smiley
it seems that new people are investing again in MTNC or are they already the old mn operators who have now put new ones online through their masternodes ...?

I don't think so because there is no volume on the exchange so MNTC coins are not changing hands. I assume somebody allocated his POS coins in masternodes maybe because of incoming prise halving.

I'm waiting for the 2p2 chat function. if the developer succeeds in hiding messages in a transaction, great. "pashalka"

I would not describe Ideaupdater as a developer because anybody with average knowledge about cryptocurrencies can start such a copycat coin as Masternodecoin.

New features like P2P messenger, easy bounty, airdrops and burnings where the only value of this project.

We waited almost a year for Ideaupdater to show his developer skills. I think we all agree that he has not delivered anything, don't keep promises and show no coding/programming skills, not active in the community, no possibility to contact him directly if needed (forks, chain splits). Of course, Ideaupdater is fully anonymous which is another red flag.

Masternodecoin gathered Bitcointalk forum members attention at the start with a very clever airdrop scheme and a lot of fake promises. Nobody involved never called this a scam because enjoyed free coins from airdropped masternodes and POS. People just closed their eyes on the constant roadmap changes and not delivered new features (P2P chat, One click bounty, search engine and many more). There was no ICO or other crowdfunding for MTNC so majority assumed that there is no possibility for a scam. But believe we are/where scammed, especially people like me which invested when the price was high, almost on ATH.

Finally is the time to expose this scam and call things with their real name to warn other members before they invest their hard earned money into this or any other scammy masternode/POS "project". Remember a lot of people lost money because they were fooled with a bunch of fake promises and straight lies. I'm one of them, attracted by promo team to buy masternode when the price was almost at ATH.

Ideaupdater is sitting on millions of MTNC coins from the start and do what he wants with POS and masternodes by controlling the number of stacked coins and masternodes count. We all have seen these wallets with millions of coins switched on and off periodically and almost the same masternode count during last year despite price fluctuations. With still enough volume back then Ideaupdater dumped all these coins on such stupid people like me, attracted by his promo team to invest. The only thing Ideaupdater really cares about and keeps monitoring, maintaining frequently are the exchange wallets of course. Every time there were problems he reacted almost instantly  Wink.

This is how I see Masternodecoin actually.

P.S
@STH2017 What is "pashalka"?

8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price goes up, again!!! Will XRP be the crypto saver? on: October 19, 2018, 08:41:11 PM
It's good to see bitcoin rise again even in just a couple of minutes because sometimes, always seeing bitcoin down can be so boring and a change of its direction might give us some excitement. Hopefully, a better price hike is about to come from the remaining months of this year.

I see today a lot of green and gains for 50% by some tokens and coins. This is good and finally looks like some additional money hit the market. I personally see this from few days that volumes raised and somebody started to buy tokens which are very cheap and fell 97 to 99% from ATL price. I have a big list of tokens in my portfolio and almost all of them are green from 2 days with very high gains. Let's hope this will be new start of a bull market and this time BTC will stay and other crypto and tokens will find higher prices. Why not?
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][PERA] PAYERA - NEW ERA OF THE CRYPTO WORLD on: October 19, 2018, 08:36:06 PM
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As much as I don't want this to be the beginning of the end because this is a project I once believed so much in expecially when they were campaigning about the iPhone X giveaway, it caught my attention because I haven't seen any Cryptoproject run such big giveaway. The coming weeks would speak the clearer picture of things
that is part of Payera's marketing strategy, and finally PAYERA has closed sales, does this mean they have been successful ?
how much money did they get during the TGE period?

Enough for exit scam  Wink.

This is no FUD. I will call this project a scam until the latest problems are resolved and all promises delivered. Which is: listings, distribution of bounty payouts, working contract.
This is just a minimum which should be already delivered with no problems at all.

If there are such big problems with the contract at the start what can we await further? this is just clear that the team is not strong enough.
This is just impossible to be able to run the company for 1 million (soft cap) or 30 (hard cap).

I accepted explanation about different approach and reduction of volumes and the smaller team but still, such a big difference looks scammy.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INV] INVESTA - CRYPTO EXCHANGE & FIAT PAYMENTS 🌎 ICO ending 31 August..! on: October 19, 2018, 08:28:51 PM
I like that the team keeps posting updates and announcements in this ANN thread despite small funding and team. Big plans and a clear roadmap for coming months. Very good plan for exchange and original approach with many products. I have heard this few times before ICO that Investa is a black horse and this can be true, finally. Binance token price is very high and standing strong. Investa can do this same or even better because we can learn on their mistakes. I know that security will be very important. Hacks are the biggest danger for every exchange.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 📣🌍[ANN] A Vaping Industry Powered by Blockchain📣🌍 ICO ends Dec 30, 2018 on: October 19, 2018, 08:19:01 PM
Important announcement — eLYQD ICO extended by 90 days

 
Dear eLYQD community,

As the market was in a bearish trend during our entire crowdsale period, we have made a difficult but necessary decision to extend our ICO. After many suggestions from token holders and consultations with project advisors, we have decided that it is in the best interest of the project to extend the ICO by further 90 days commencing after initial end date on 30th of September 2018.

The recent fluxes in the crypto market took a toll on the value of Bitcoin, Ethereum and many other cryptocurrencies and the celebratory phase came to a major halt. This, following a series of other such unfortunate events, held the interested stakeholders from investing in the eLYQD ICO, which is denominated in fiat exchanges instead of cryptocurrencies. For example, 1 ETH is equal to 1000 tokens, but if ETH drops by 50%, you get only 50% of the estimated tokens.

The community and supporters of the eLYQD have brought this matter to light and eLYQD has taken note of the same. Given the current volatility in the markets and the increasing demand for LYQD tokens, the eLYQD’s management team has henceforth decided to extend the sale period.

We will restructure the token values from the beginning by giving an equal opportunity to everyone, who could not avail the tokens in the initial crowdfunding rounds due to the declining crypto market conditions.

The ICO will be extended by 90 days after the initial end date to have time to continue marketing & pursuing investments/partnerships.

As the market is gradually recovering from massive price declines that were experienced in Q3 2018 and investor confidence is slowly creeping in. We believe this extension in the current market uptrend will help us achieve the aim of the ICO.

New ICO end date = 30th December 2018, 23:00 PM UTC or until the hard cap is reached.

We say a big thank you for your understanding and support up until this point and beyond.

Regards,
eLYQD Team
 

I like to come back to project I was interested in before or during first ICO stages to look at how it develops and if my assumptions where correct.

I see that ICO is extended until the end of this year which is common lately. Almost 75% of ICO extended fundraisings in the last half year.

The most important thing is a still falling price of ETH and BTC because Elyqd ICO is funded with this cryptocurrencies.

Such a long ICO's cause problems with correct token price assumption.

Like OP said there is no way to predict the price before ICO is actually ended.

I am curious how this process will be determined by Elyqd? Can somebody, please explain this to me?
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] A BETTER ETHEREUM: EINC -> $300,000 IN REWARDS! on: October 19, 2018, 08:06:29 PM
hello manager reward campaign has been around for a while but still no prizes. Is there any development related to the distribution result?

According to the admin from Telegram "ETI reward distribution will be after 30 days after ETI be listed in the exchange". Since September 19 ETI coins are available for trading at Exrates. We are waiting for October 19.  Wink

Thanks for this information. I would appreciate a link to the source of this announcement. I want to check if this is true for real because people write sometimes nonsense.

I assume you are right and I am very happy to hear the word distribution from Einc team. This means that there is a big chance to payout in a matter of few days or maybe weeks.

It would be nice if somebody from the team posts such announcements in this thread. The official statement is always better and trustworthy.
I think we are all waiting for distribution and that was explained by the team on the telegram stating: exclamation: For bounty related query contact our bounty manager @TokenSuiteBuse, Bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3780435: exclamation:

: star: Airdrop / Bounty ETI reward distribution will be on 22nd Oct 2018
: star: Current Exchange: star:
-Exrates [https://exrates.me]

Thanks for this info. So this is official and bounty should be distributed in a week. We have waited so long this one week makes no difference at all.

Lately, I see a few members raised red flags in ANN thread about Etherinc, I hope everything is ok and we will be not scammed again.

Yes, we are all waiting for this moment from some time. We are so close to distribution and bad news started to show up in the ANN thread. Few members rise scam accusations against ETI team and project. The Twitter official account is closed and a few latest announcements are being criticized. I don't know what to think and would be great if somebody who follows this project really close share his opinion about the actual state of ETI project.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀 🔥[ANN][DAO][COINSALE] | EtherInc Blockchain (eInc) [ ETHEREUM FORK ]🔥 on: October 19, 2018, 08:01:57 PM
1.  O_o https://twitter.com/eIncHQ
Account suspended

This account has been suspended. Learn more about why Twitter suspends accounts, or return to your timeline.    Huh Huh Huh

2. Minimum for withdrawal of funds is 15000 ETI from Exrates- fantastic exchange.

15K ETI for withdrawal is just insane. You can always sell and withdraw other coin but now I ask myself how high are the minimum amounts for each coin there? If such an insane amount for ETI then could be something similar for LTC or ETH. why not?
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE] MEERKAT - A utility token designed for local merchants on: October 19, 2018, 07:46:46 PM
I will advise you to keep this thread clean and don't use any bumping services because is not needed and will only harm your project. Last few posts are already low quality and start to looks bad. Keep up good work OP and post frequent updates and announcements from the team and people will follow There is nothing more precious for an ANN thread as real discussion and involved high-rank members.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▉ANN▉ MTNC ▉▉▉▉░ Masternodecoin ░▉▉▉ Multiple Privacy Center Platform on: October 19, 2018, 10:22:43 AM
No comments from weeks, the price at the bottom, no updates, no development, no team, not good Masternodecoin.

So we can assume this as an abandoned project or there is dev available and will do something further? Airdrops?

From what I know should be burned a lot more and distributed to the community by airdrop. If not then what happened with this coins?

Is this what it looks like? Which is the end?
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀📈[ANN-ICO]ATLANT Real Estate Platform| 📈🚀🌟🌟 on: October 19, 2018, 10:18:00 AM
Hello guys. i heard that we must passed KYC? is it true or its false alarm? If yes, where i must do this? Thx.

Yes, this is true everybody will have to pass KYC in order to receive further bounty payments or to be able to fully use the platform and benefits from holding the token or run a node. This will/should be announced this month. So keep coming back to not miss a monthly payment if you are a bounty hunter or even the rest of your bounty. Hope for best prepare for worst.
They have scheduled to release the KYC procedure this month so I am sure everyone is waiting for it, especially the bounty hunters.
Some might fail to fulfill the requirements but this will continue and development is ongoing.

Did the company announce it or people are spreading fud about the company? Till now they didn't mention anything about the KYC procedure and why suddenly they will ask for KYC procedure?
They actually did, you can refer to this link https://blog.atlant.io/atlant-announces-kyc-registrations-to-begin-october-2018-4d19e18d6e19
The KYC will begin October so everyone is waiting so they will have more time to comply with the KYC requirement, especially the bounty hunters. Cheesy


I am one of the ATL bounty participants who continue to receive rewards from Atlant every month, do not feel objected to the KYC that will be made this month.
but whether after doing KYC all the remaining payment will be paid all or still as usual?
There should be no changes in terms of payment method, the only thing they announce is the KYC requirement in order to receive the monthly
reward and I think it's not a hard thing to comply, we should be grateful that the team are doing all they can to continue the development and as a bounty hunter, we will also benefit on this as long as we do not dump.
it means if someone left to do KYC procedure complete then he will not receive the monthly reward.
we should have to complete our kyc on atlant platform
but i have checked the atlant website there is no option to apply KYC registration. is it started already if yes then where?
and atlant token price is too much cheap its an easy buy for now

I would like to know this too. When we have to do KYC, where and how?

Is here in this thread anybody from the Atlant team to answer this questions or they don't come to this thread anymore and all updates are from random BTT members interested in the project?

If somebody knows please explain.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔵 [ANN] 🔵 [ITO]🔵 DOMINIUM - REAL ESTATE BLOCKCHAIN SOLUTION 🔵 on: October 19, 2018, 10:13:52 AM
What happened to this thread lately OP?

In the last two pages, there were maybe 2 or 3 real answers the rest is spam from a bumping service. Don't use it because they will cause more harm than good.
If this is not on purpose then Op should report this spammy posts.

I like this project and support from the start. Just don't like such a cheap way to bump the thread. This gives nothing because the discussion is not real and every normal investor which will come here to look for some info will run away when seeing this spammy and fake generated posts. This is so obvious that hurt my eyes when reading.

There are so many good, etic ways to do it. You can make a special bounty or VIP signature campaign with a requirement to post quality answers in this thread. Choose 25 or 50 high-rank users with good post history and this thread will explode with quality discussions.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price goes up, again!!! Will XRP be the crypto saver? on: October 19, 2018, 09:40:14 AM
XRP is a very shady currency. It is not similar to other currencies such as BTC or ETH. Even the trade volumes look suspect. The volumes indicate that a large part of the circulating supply is not on free-float.

I know, I know but look how many banks started to use Ripple. This is insane bank after bank is starting to use XRP for their transactions. Believe me, if this f...ers use it then is good and for sure cheaper for them.

I personally never sent a Ripple or even don't know how the wallet looks like or even if they have a wallet and normal people like me can use it. I just don't know and the first thing I will do next is to check this info because is worth to know, I think. There was always so much FUD about this coin that I even not bothered to look closely what that is. always heard statements like yours "this is not a cryptocurrency", "is centralized", "bankcoin", etc.

Ripple is in top 5 on CMC from the start and seems that will stay there for a little longer. We can say what we want but this is a strong player in the crypto world and for sure we should have an eye on RIPPLE.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: October 19, 2018, 09:26:14 AM
Lately, in founders Telegram group I have read that there are 40 Million $ still available from the Envion ICO funds in BTC and ETH.

Of course, this is good and bad because if they have sold after ICO there will be 3 times more money left actually.

Still, the old CEO is in possession of the money but Woestmann cannot use them because of FINMA and other court cases which is a good thing.
Taking into consideration that all these people are pure fucking scammers.

I find it strange that it's even legal for icos to leave the invested money on a speculative asset. It's like they are gambling with your investment without asking.

I don't understand this too especially when the price for BTC and ETH was so good after Envion ICO. We all know that 50% drops are common in crypto so why they decide to left this funds in crypto? I don't know. If this was my decision I would sell because if not I could not sleep with such highly volatile assets in my portfolio.

New projects popping up with a little rehashed Envion idea. Keep asking myself another scam or this mining thing could be finally profitable if done with the right people?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][PERA] PAYERA - NEW ERA OF THE CRYPTO WORLD on: October 19, 2018, 09:16:17 AM
Here is an exact announcement from Payera team posted in official Telegram channel:

"we are very sorry that we was offline in the last weeks. We had interned and with our listing strategy a few issues. Nothing was ready to work out. That's the reason why we stopped the distribution and paused the tokens global. We have to fix these problems first before we could reach out to you with new Information. We would like to make it clear that this is not a scam, but errors that have happened! We can understand when we have disappointed people who believe so much in the product, we can only repeat it, payera came to stay! We will do everything in our power, to bring this project forward! We really hope that we can continue to count on your support! We promise you, we will be back for you very soon, but there are still things to clarify in the background before we can drive up. "

Sorry to say Payera but all scams begin like this. Believe me, I know what I am talking about, last year I was scammed a few times. Especially with bounty payments. This announcement not only worries me because of the message but how is this written. I can clearly see that this announcement is written by a person which is not a native English speaker and is written poorly despite English isn't my first language too. When you announce something so important to a 60K group of English speaking investors would be nice to hire a writer for 5$ on fiver to do this job correctly because you are a company with a lot of our funds now. Just not professional and bad, scammy looking. This is how I see this situation not mention that there is actually no exact reason provided. One thing we know now is that you have a major problem which causes a stop to everything we expected to happen. which is bad.
You are right to feel the way you do, because it is too careless of the team in the first place to let things like this happen. Taking a look at the price on IDEX is quite suspicious, and the price it is being traded is a far cry from actual ICO price. Hoping this is resolved and a proper listing is done in a good exchange

This is strange because there are no new posts in this thread, no discussion on what happened and what will be next. Normally after such an announcement shitstorm happens especially when the bounty is not paid and the project is just after ICO. This is the critic moment of each ICO because is the time for exit scam. We will see what will happen with Payera. This will be clear in a few weeks. As for now, all signs tell me that this is the beginning of the end.
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