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601  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The block size limit controversy: a proper poll (30 days) on: March 11, 2013, 01:27:21 PM
It seems that nobody is volting anymore, so it makes sense to lock the poll.

I hope everybody find the results satisfying, I for sure do.

602  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Cancelling unconfirmed transactions on: March 11, 2013, 11:38:11 AM
I thought I have seen Gavin somewhere talking about adding fees to already existing transactions... am I mistaken ?
603  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 11, 2013, 11:06:00 AM
If you are enemy of Libertarianism, the you are an enemy of Bitcoin as well.

NO!

I'm quite possibly a libertarian. At least I am so in the general sense of the word and not the American one. However, I think your assertion by itself is harmful to Bitcoin as a movement. Maybe you are the enemy of Bitcoin in this sense, no?

Error: This sentence contains no actual argument.
I cannot work with that, please elaborate.

I'm joking of course, but I hope you are also joking...

Nope. I am dead serious.
If you are an enemy of libertarian principles, then you HAVE to be an enemy of Bitcoin, whether you realize it or not. It is simple logic:

Bitcoin itself is much more hardcore than Libertarianism (closer to anarchy), so if one doesn't agree with libertarian principles, one also cannot agree with anarchy/crypto-anarchy principles, so it is logically impossible for that person to agree with what Bitcoin stands for. Unless the one doesn't undserstand logic.
604  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 11, 2013, 09:35:26 AM

Sweet Jesus...

I knew that there is something seriously wrong with this guy.
605  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
Personally I don't care about Luke as far as his beliefs go. As long as people check his work, and I have no doubt all dev's work is checked not just Luke's, I don't mind what he wants if he leaves me alone.

Maybe all the developers should operate under a pseudonym and submit things from behind TOR, so that they're all treated equally?

Actually, this is what I2P developers already do. So it is possible for sure.
606  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 05:08:10 PM
this thread is ridiculous.
op should admit that other poeple having other viewpoint are not always enemys.

Luke may not realize this yet, but ideologically he is an enemy of Bitcoin.
What he believes in stands in direct opposition to the ideals which created Bitcoin.

Maybe he will realize this some time in the future and start fighting Bitcoin - you never know.

This make me think that op must have some troubles to figure out the diference between a democracy and a battlefield...

As hazek already pointed out, democracy is a battlefield of a sort.
607  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
Why would i let ANYBODY mess with my money ?

Why?
Because otherwise you wouldn't even have a computer to have internet on to ask that question.
How do you want to use bitcoin without a fiat economy? Light signaling? Pigeon post?

This topic has derailed into politics.

Sorry, i am not in the mood to do politics anymore.
608  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
This is a re-post of my comment from the other thread.

I am not sure why no one has mentioned it here.  But starting today, Satoshi dice already changed its method of sending out 1 satoshi for confirming losing bet.  Instead, they are now sending out 0.5% of bet amount back for losing bets, regardless of bet size.  Given that minimum bet is 0.01 BTC, now all Satoshi Dice losing bet tx starts at 5000 satoshi and up.  I presume that SD changed its policy due to the introduction of SD filter patch.

Therefore, Satoshi Dice now absorbs all tx fee, and return 0.5% of bet amount, even for minimum bet.  Previously, it will deduct a tx fee first and send you 1 satoshi.  So you need to bet at least 0.2 BTC or so, to get 0.5 mbtc back.  But now even 0.01 BTC minimum bet gives you at least 5000 satoshi back.  I presume the change is made today because of all the heat and the patch here.
Great! That is much better news... Thanks.

Oh yeah, now less of people will be working on solving the ACTUAL problem which is Bitcoin's suspectibility to spam.

[irony]
Great news indeed it is. Thanks, Luke.
[/irony]
609  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
After this discussion I don't trust you. I do not like where you would take this currency if you had the chance. I think you are an enemy.
If some day, by some "unfortunate accident" you become main developer, i will vote for creating a fork without you.
You could probably save yourself some stress by just clicking "Ignore".

Then i wouldn't be able to straighten out his foolishness.

atm i only see your foolishness.
i never saw luke-jr saying  "hey let's make stupid laws instead which force you into not attacking Bitcoin". he just made a patch that his(!) bitcoind wont put sdice transactions in his blocks. i dont see any problem with that.

If you haven't noticed, he is proposing for all of us to put pressure on SDICE not to generate spam.
And i say that is a foolish waste of time which could be spent by thinking out new, automatic ways of preventing spam.
610  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 03:25:24 PM
I don't really consider him an enemy of Bitcoin, although he really seems self-centered about his own beliefs sometimes.

I got caught into an edit war on Bitcoin Wiki over the SatoshiDice article when I tried to make the SatoshiDice article more neutral by removing all straight "SatoshiDice is a DDoS attack" accusations, which weren't even backed by any references. Eventually he told me he would only allow my edits to stay if I specifically told in the article that SatoshiDice is a DDoS attack. Looking at his previous contributions in the wiki ( 1, 2, 3 ), it wasn't the first time his "facts" were met by criticism.

With such a foolish behavior, he is doing harm to Bitcoin.
This is the reason i think he is an enemy of BTC.

Actually this so good I am gonna re-paste it into the top post.
611  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
hint: people who have other opinions than you are not automatic your enemy.

Wrong. Not MY enemy. *Bitcoin's enemy*.
612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 02:48:57 PM
After this discussion I don't trust you. I do not like where you would take this currency if you had the chance. I think you are an enemy.
If some day, by some "unfortunate accident" you become main developer, i will vote for creating a fork without you.
You could probably save yourself some stress by just clicking "Ignore".

Then i wouldn't be able to straighten out his foolishness.
613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
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Nobody is forcing non-libertarians to use Bitcoin. If they don't want it, it means its not for them.

Nobody is forcing Bitcoin users (or even developers) to be libertarians. It's just you and that bubble you live in.

This statement is irrelevant.
Bitcoin is, by definition, a anarchist/crypto-anarchist currency for the simple reason it cannot be controlled by any central authority.

If you want to use Bitcoin, you have to live with it.
You still think of Bitcoin as an "accomplished" system. But what you say about a central authority is still by far not true at the current state of the network. The hole drama was because of asking sd not to fuck a system in development too hard. Just a (maybe naive) try to ask people, who claim to "love" Bitcoin, but blame at it at the same time, that something like they do is possible to do. "Nothing wrong with me, as long as I am not affected".
It was you fear of "regulation" that led to this political rage... Bitcoin is still an experiment, like human society.

Then I say, let's strive for no less than perfection and make it orders of magnitude better than society. Let's make it as hard as diamond and as flexible as chewing gum.

But Luke-Jr says, "hey let's make stupid laws instead which force you into not attacking Bitcoin". And I say this is incredibly foolish.

If a day comes that social rules can pressure Bitcoin, then I am out the next day (or I will switch to a fork). Why would i let ANYBODY mess with my money ?
Well I think that day was after the creation of the genesis block. Isn't it true, that if the majority of miners decide to accept any kind of rule, they have the power to enforce it?

Anybody can be a miner, anybody can buy ASIC and vote with his own wallet. This is also a part of the free market which is the foundation of Bitcoin.

Not Anybody. Only those who have the equipment can be miner and not everyone can buy that equipment (at this moment?). The foundation of Bitcoin is the internet, since only there, they can be spent and verified.
I think the MPEx guy said it: Bitcoin is a republic, not a democracy.

We can work on that and make it a perfect democracy. Actually, a lot of people is working on it if you haven't noticed.
614  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
You are digging way too deep.  You sound like an intelligent guy and your time is more valuable doing other things.  Just because you are not Libitarian does not mean you don't like Bitcoin and cannot use it.  You said to read the whole thing, well sorry I have better things to do...  

I realize i went slighly overboard with this poll, but i guess even if 99% people say "No", it will at least raise awarness of the "social punishment vs mathematical algorithms" problem.

And i still will consider Luke-Jr an enemy of Bitcoin.
615  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 02:08:44 PM
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imperfections

Define perfection.

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monarchy

Good monarchy is better than bad anarchy, bad democracy, bad whatever. But who guarantees that a monarchy stays good? Where's the possibility and incentive for positive change to be initiated by the plebs?

If you want to have a discussion, learn to quote better first. I cannot work with that.
616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 02:06:49 PM
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By using Bitcoin you MUST accept that other bitcoiners do that (never pay taxes, defy government) or at least live with that.
Well yes, I definitely accept that. This is exactly my point. Bitcoin is a technology. What political views it's users might have is completely up to them.
Just for the records, I am with on the fixing the bitcoin instead of banning SatoshiDice, just against this being a political issue somehow.

Yeah, the turn of this discussion into politics was unfortunate, I did not intend it.
617  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
To answer the Q in your thread title: No.

How long have you known Dashjr?

I only know him on the forums, since 2010.

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Just raising awarness and colleting opinions here.
618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
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Bitcoin is, by definition, a anarchist/crypto-anarchist currency for the simple reason it cannot be controlled by any central authority.

If you want to use Bitcoin, you have to live with it.
So if I use bitcoin I MUST somehow defy all government, never pay taxes (even on my income from bitcoin), don't use any of the governments services and go live in a jungle? (Because for example the roads are also built by the governments usually.) That's just silly.

No, you misunderstood me.

By using Bitcoin you MUST accept that other bitcoiners do that (never pay taxes, defy government) or at least live with that.
619  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is one of the devs (Luke-Jr) an enemy of Bitcoin ? on: March 10, 2013, 01:59:01 PM
Keep your bitching/personal problems with forum members to meta or Off-Topic please... Sad

The amount of people who know what's best for Bitcoin's future is TOO DAMN HIGH in this forum already!

This is not my personal problem. This is ours potential problem now.

So I just wanted to raise awarness of the problem.
620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newly Discovered Flaw, Could KILL Bitcoin! on: March 10, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
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Nobody is forcing non-libertarians to use Bitcoin. If they don't want it, it means its not for them.

Nobody is forcing Bitcoin users (or even developers) to be libertarians. It's just you and that bubble you live in.

This statement is irrelevant.
Bitcoin is, by definition, a anarchist/crypto-anarchist currency for the simple reason it cannot be controlled by any central authority.

If you want to use Bitcoin, you have to live with it.
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