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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 19, 2018, 03:38:52 PM
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I see this masternode bashing come up regularly from the Monero camp, please show me evidence of any dash private sent transaction has ever been compromised/deanonymized.
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https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer/status/1049179846138585088?s=19

Yea that was just bonkers, that specific transaction was a specially crafted one using non standard mixing. If he had used default mixing settings he would have been unable to deanonymize the tx. At best it's comparable to when Monero allowed 0-mixin transactions.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 19, 2018, 01:02:31 PM
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DarkCoin / Dash is older tech, not decentralised, optionally private (which means effectively not private at all) and not fungible.  It has a transparent-by-default blockchain and just uses a version of Coinjoin as a mixer.  Talk about old tech, there you go - but you surely know this?  Do you really trust Evan, would you want one of his masternodes?
 
Er... for years Dash was always above Monero on Coinmarketcap.  Now Monero looks in the rear view mirror.  You should maybe check up before you make assertions that are out of date.  As for your admission that Dash's Masternode system is (as you put it) 'not optimal' - thanks for acknowledging one fatal flaw at least.  I guess you would not want a masternode, then. Also your appreciation of Monero's 'solid tech' is noted.

I see this masternode bashing come up regularly from the Monero camp, please show me evidence of any dash private sent transaction has ever been compromised/deanonymized.

Yea it never happened and because of the masternode concept anonymity of old transactions is also much more likely to be guaranteed in the future.
For example, the Monerolink drama, those transactions are still affected, the people that made those transactions can still be affected. In dash this is unlikely to happen because the anonymization happens on the masternodes and is not stored on the blockchain that, if compromised, leaks all this data. The transaction registration and anonymization happen separately, which is a smart move. Now this system just has to be redesigned to be more robust against potential/theoretical attacks, which is what Loki does for example.


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That is; decentralisation, no premine, strong community support, excellent active development and actual proven real-world use cases.

Some premine and specially mining rewards going to developers is alright i think, after all, they don't need to work for nothing, the way i see it it incentivizes dedication to and quality of the project. Masternodes does not mean centralization, it is part of the entire network that enables and incentivizes certain functionality, there can be a lot of masternodes (decentralized!)
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 19, 2018, 09:22:41 AM
Jeez - DASH?  Haha!  High performance luxury sportcars?  Deluded, dude.

Fact is, it had none of the vulnerabilities that Monero had in the past. Monero shillers keep yelling how bad Dash is and it offers no good protection, yet they provide zero evidence to back up their claim.

Loki went even further and acknowledges that Dash' masternode setup isn't optimal and completely redesigned it to avoid that structure from being exploited by adversaries as has been theorized. It furthermore builds on top of Monero tech, which i agree seems currently quite solid tech.

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Monero overtook Dash an age ago
When did that happen? Monero has quite a bad track record when it comes to vulnerabilities and bugs, how about Dash...? Smiley... exactly...
The marketcap surely seems to disagree with you, and you seem to value marketcap indication... So the question stands...

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and I have not actually seen a lot of the others you mention - I don't look that far down Cryptomarketcap.
Maybe you should look into new tech, specially if you're a fan of Monero tech, there are projects that are Monero and so much more.

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Monero's not a BItcoin clone 'old tech' coin either, do some proper research if you want to troll, kwukduck.
It's not? So they change a few lines of code here and there, it's still 1st gen blockchain tech which is just inefficient, slow, bulky.
Ever wonder why we don't use tape deck players anymore? Yea, for that reason Monero as well as Bitcoin will not be used anymore within a short span of time.

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Long time no see.  You haven't been missed.  And you're a but late for the troll season, too - losing your touch, I guess. Bless.
It's never too late to wake people up.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 18, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?
Having an opinion now makes you a troll?  I'm sure you guys are all right, monero will surpass bitcoin in marketcap and be over $10,000 each xmr....................

But of course I'm just a troll, Monero will surely overtake bitcoin and become the number 1 cryptocurrency throughout the land and reach 20k each. Huh Huh


I read this thread quite often from the start and huge majority of people here dont believe that Monero will overcome Bitcoin any time soon. So yes you claiming this on at least two occasions, you are a troll.



The way I see it, only a few coins will survive.  Most altcoins will go crash to zero.  No I do not short, the market can stay irrational longer than you remain solvent.

I totally agree that most coins will not survive or at least not be worth millions or billions as now. But Monero have huge chance of being among those few survivors. Definatelly way bigger then ETH you mention.

The only reason for Monero to survive is the network effect, like Bitcoin, it's a first generation old blockchain tech.

Monero has been surpassed by many projects in terms of scalability, security, and features.
MSR, LOKI, DERO, even PIVX and DASH are all examples of vastly superior coins that will take the crown from Monero. Many build on top of Monero foundations, but where Monero stops, they keep innovating and preparing for real adoption.

In short, Monero is your wiggling rusty beloved oldtimer, (some of) the competition are high performance luxury sports cars. Sure there will be some love left for the oldtimers, but real world usage and adoption lies in the future with innovation, not in the past.
5  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: I am back on: October 18, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
*zwaai*
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2018, 02:49:04 AM
I knew this was going to happen. 1 day indicators were all pointing to the bears but I still missed out on buy in at bottom Aw. Well. Maybe. Seems like this is not over yet. Waiting for next 12 hr candle. Weekend pump?

Don't worry, this current crash is far from over, we still have along way down to go.
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: CNBC Analyst Predicts Bitcoin Price Is ‘About To Explode,’ Citing ETF Buzz on: October 11, 2018, 02:45:41 AM
Yea it's going to explode into the ground, actually it's working on that right now.
8  Economy / Speculation / This is the big crash of 2018. on: October 11, 2018, 02:09:36 AM
Hold on, this is going to be a deep dive! With little support and a broken protocol.
See you guys at 3000.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 25, 2018, 08:55:19 PM
LMAO
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you use DASH.
10  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is Bitcoin Crashing? on: August 08, 2018, 06:55:11 AM
The ETF will be denied, i can guarantee you that 100%. With that BTC prices will plummet to new depths, probably around 2000-2500 range.
They will try to sell you the Lightning Network scam which could give a small recovery into the 4000 range but when that has been demonstrated to the public that it doesn't work we may see prices plummet to around 1000 or even below.

Why you ask? Because it is a scam.
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happened to this 'easy 10k'? on: August 08, 2018, 06:50:46 AM
Lol this "Buy the dip!" bs again.
Y'all have been saying this the entire year, you have no idea how much financial and emotional trauma you are causing so many people by selling this pipedream to people that want some financial hope and stability. All just so you can sell your bags and become rich while everybody is suffering. How many times does it need to be demonstrated that this tech, specially the Bitcoin implementation does not work at a basic level.
Even the LN is a fad because it fundamentally CAN NOT work in a decentralized and secure way.
12  Economy / Speculation / What happened to this 'easy 10k'? on: August 08, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
Just wondering guys, you were all so confident we were in a strong bull market and would break 10k easily, looks like the opposite is becoming a reality and we're heading straight back to new lows.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 31, 2018, 09:54:58 AM
You really believe criminals would even consider Monero when it has been demonstrated to be highly traceable and insecure for almost its entire existence? That is a really bad track-record and not a risk any semi-intelligent criminal would be willing to take.
Just because some of those issues have partially been resolved does not make this history go away.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 28, 2018, 03:43:34 PM
Optional Fungability will never keep you safe.

I hear this a lot but it's an absolutely unsubstantiated claim.

We have several other strong privacy coins which, unlike Monero, have never been severely broken.
Remember that before the last network update most transactions are able to be linked and traced. The issues may have been fixed for new transactions but it leaves a big fat scar on the reputation of Monero and it's users over the past years are still at risk from their past transactions. Or as Spagni likes to say to discredit privacy altcoins "lives could be at stake here."

Take ZCash, Dash or Pivx. They may not be private by default, but none of their private transactions have ever been linked or or traced.
It would seem mandatory fungibility didn't help Monero one bit in the past.


There are many papers claiming that optional private transactions cant make coin fungible.

I do not believe there was anyone that broke Monero privacy. If you know anyone I can make an transaction that he will unveil and made it transparent for everyone to see.  I do believe  this is impossible since theory says so.


On other hand theory and researches claim the opposite for the other coins you mention and main reason is their optional privacy.  You need to understand that blockchain analysis will improve with huge leaps and soon many will be able to prove this theory with a click.   Monero also had optional privacy until 2016. Luckily blockchain analysis was not so advanced back then to worry anyone.


That's a good joke... https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/
I recommend you read it thoroughly, because the implications are quite serious. Much of it has recently been improved upon, but the issues are not completely resolved and implications of transactions up to 2017 will haunt users for a long time i suspect...

Until 2017 Monero had optional privacy, since you could use Ring size 0.  So you could basically chose to use private transactions or transparent. That is how Monero was from launch in 2014. And this paper you posted is just one of the papers that explain us in theory how optional privacy dont work. There are many such papers. Some were made in Monero Research Lab in 2014.  Optional privacy is not real privacy and already is or will be broken in practice.

Nothing will hunt any user unless ignorant. Everyone that used Monero in 2014-2016 and read those Monero research papers, or read this forum, should know that optional privacy Monero had dont give him 100% privacy. Same as anyone that used DASH from 2014 till now should know this fact. That his transaction ( although he chose to be private) can be right now or will with advanced block chain analysis made totally transparent.  
But also anyone that used Monero in 2014-2016 should knew that using Monero gives him best chances to have private transaction.

Nice twisting of the facts.
The 0-mixin transactions compromised the transactions that had to be private as they were selected as mixin outputs for the ring. Meaning that all default private transactions were not private at all because people were using 0-mixin. This is a vulnerability no matter how you twist it.
0-mixin should never have been allowed to be selected as mixin in the first place. How development could have missed that simple logic eludes me completely.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 27, 2018, 11:49:21 PM
Take ZCash, Dash or Pivx. They may not be private by default, but none of their private transactions have ever been linked or or traced.

lolz

http://zcashlink.com
https://smeiklej.com/files/usenix18.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1709.02489.pdf

Right, i dont't know about ZCash, but the one about Dash has been thoroughly debunked and has not been shown to work on the real network and most likely doesn't.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 27, 2018, 08:39:29 PM
Optional Fungability will never keep you safe.

I hear this a lot but it's an absolutely unsubstantiated claim.

We have several other strong privacy coins which, unlike Monero, have never been severely broken.
Remember that before the last network update most transactions are able to be linked and traced. The issues may have been fixed for new transactions but it leaves a big fat scar on the reputation of Monero and it's users over the past years are still at risk from their past transactions. Or as Spagni likes to say to discredit privacy altcoins "lives could be at stake here."

Take ZCash, Dash or Pivx. They may not be private by default, but none of their private transactions have ever been linked or or traced.
It would seem mandatory fungibility didn't help Monero one bit in the past.


There are many papers claiming that optional private transactions cant make coin fungible.

I do not believe there was anyone that broke Monero privacy. If you know anyone I can make an transaction that he will unveil and made it transparent for everyone to see.  I do believe  this is impossible since theory says so.


On other hand theory and researches claim the opposite for the other coins you mention and main reason is their optional privacy.  You need to understand that blockchain analysis will improve with huge leaps and soon many will be able to prove this theory with a click.   Monero also had optional privacy until 2016. Luckily blockchain analysis was not so advanced back then to worry anyone.


That's a good joke... https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/
I recommend you read it thoroughly, because the implications are quite serious. Much of it has recently been improved upon, but the issues are not completely resolved and implications of transactions up to 2017 will haunt users for a long time i suspect...
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 27, 2018, 03:07:28 PM


Optional Fungability will never keep you safe.



I hear this a lot but it's an absolutely unsubstantiated claim.

We have several other strong privacy coins which, unlike Monero, have never been severely broken.
Remember that before the last network update most transactions are able to be linked and traced. The issues may have been fixed for new transactions but it leaves a big fat scar on the reputation of Monero and it's users over the past years are still at risk from their past transactions. Or as Spagni likes to say to discredit privacy altcoins "lives could be at stake here."

Take ZCash, Dash or Pivx. They may not be private by default, but none of their private transactions have ever been linked or or traced.
It would seem mandatory fungibility didn't help Monero one bit in the past.

Spagni also commented that some of the problems in the protocol are impossible to solve, this is just unacceptable if you want to be safe, we need to think of other methods to actually make it secure and not have stuff in there that 'is safe, for now...' while keeping in mind that the blockchain will remember our transaction history for a very long time.
18  Economy / Speculation / SEC rejects Bitcoin ETF again. Bear market to continue. on: July 27, 2018, 02:57:51 PM
With the few bulls still standing the ETF was basically their only hope of a recovery. Now that the ETF has been rejected again we can expect a long term serious bear market to continue exactly as i predicted.

https://www.coindesk.com/winklevoss-brothers-bitcoin-etf-rejected-by-sec-for-second-time/
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]⚡⚡🔐[PRiVCY]🔐⚡⚡[7th Airdrop - Starts 21th July]✅[PoW/POS]✅ on: July 24, 2018, 12:46:56 PM
Just curious... https://explorer.privcy.io/

Where exactly is the privacy?
I see full addresses, inputs, outputs, amounts, mined/forged.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 24, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
Monero can expect another huge dump i guess now that full privacy is available for Bitcoin.

https://www.coindesk.com/privacy-bitcoin-wallets/
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