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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cool thing to do on: June 30, 2011, 04:14:55 PM
I used to gamble, now I can't even understand what they're saying !
2  Economy / Services / Spa -> Eng / Eng -> Spa - Translations 0.5 BTC/page Times New Roman 12 on: June 24, 2011, 05:39:31 PM
I speak spanish as my main language and I've been translating for a while now.

The prices might be adjusted if your text isn't in Times New Roman 12.

Just send PMs with your requests. The value and the deposit address will be sent back.
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Transaction fees?! [Fixed] on: June 24, 2011, 06:12:53 AM
Why is it so hard to just point to the documentation on these hidden fees?  It's because it doesn't exist.  Or at least Google doesn't know about it, which is the same thing.  Smiley
Google has this on the first page for "bitcoin transaction fees":
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fee

The trouble with that wiki article is that in the third paragraph it states "Transaction fees are voluntary on the part of the person making the bitcoin transaction..." (emphasis added). This implies that if you set the transaction fee option to 0.00 BTC that there will be no fee incurred.

What is being discussed here is an involuntary transaction fee that is being automatically added by the client even with the transaction fee option being set to 0.00 BTC.

What is being asked is: How many confirmations are required to avoid this involuntary transaction fee? The wiki link above is silent on this issue.


It's not an easy question. I'll try to break it down. When creating a transaction, it looks through your wallet and tries to select the coins that come closest to equal to your target value. The coins it selects are evaluated on their size (in BTC) and age. That whole amount is then divided by the total transaction size. A typical transaction is about 250 bytes. (One input transaction, two output transactions). So if your input transaction is worth 1 Bitcoin and has an age of 144 blocks (about a day), then they are allowed for free processing. If it is worth 0.5 Bitcoins, then two days, if .25, then 4 days, etc. If it's not eligible for free processing, the transaction fee is set to 0.01 BTC. If any of your outputs is less than 0.01 BTC, the transaction fee is also set to 0.01 BTC. If you have change due from your transaction that is less than 0.01, it will include it as a fee instead.

So all in all, it depends on the coins you have in your wallet, which ones the algorithm selects, how big those coins are, how many confirmations they have, and the size of your outputs.

Now as far as miners are concerned, they'll accept a 0.0005 fee rather than 0.01 fee for some reason, but they otherwise seem to use the same logic as to which blocks they will accept for free processing. However, if a block is submitted for acceptance, all this fee logic is not checked and it will accept any block so long as the inputs of the transaction are equal to or greater than the output. So if somebody were to program a rogue miner that accepted transactions no matter what, whenever it generated a block, it would be no problem for the network, but the default miners will not accept your transaction unless it has the correct fee attached.

Hope that helps.
That means It's not recommended to make or recieve payments with too much decimals, like 3.50045 bitcois (for example) because that would activate the 0.01 fee.

BTW, I've noticed the use of client 0.3.20 doesn't disable the hidden fees, they just doesn't show due to the lower number of decimals.
4  Economy / Marketplace / Re: New profit x1.5 with CLEAR SHUFFLE ! on: June 24, 2011, 03:58:25 AM
What would happen if all the place were taken ?

Nice game btw, giving it a try.
5  Other / Meta / Re: New Forum for "Bitcoin Gaming" on: June 24, 2011, 02:31:35 AM
I think a separate forum is needed since the volume of gambling and pyramid bet posts.
6  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is this what this forum has become? on: June 24, 2011, 12:06:46 AM
They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

How can something be a scam when the rules are described ? And it works like rules describe it ?

However I'm +1 for the Gaming/gambilng forum.
7  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The Great 1.1X Bitcoin Rush-- New round at 5:15 EST! on: June 23, 2011, 01:09:49 AM
Loving this a lot. Might I suggest changing the time limit or forking it perhaps? I feel this would be more suited to a longer time limit such as ending a few days after the last deposit. With double trouble games it slows down quickly due to how fast the gap grows, but with 1.1x that gap would grow very slowly encouraging quick redeposits.

And that is a good idea indeed.
8  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The Great 1.1X Bitcoin Rush-- New round at 5:15 EST! on: June 23, 2011, 12:47:13 AM
I just joined in.  I like the faster moving nature of the 1.1x payouts.
Will that arrive (1st confirmation) before round ends ?

Actually the round ended 15 minutes earlier than offered... I'm not liking this.


EDIT: Please chech the block explorer, you closed the round before 8 EST and a new deposit appeared before that hour.

EDIT2: Very straightforward correction. This is trustworthy.  Cheesy
9  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 2.25X Double Trouble [FRESH START!] [GAME JUST STARTED!!!!] on: June 22, 2011, 11:38:57 PM
What's the lower and upper limit of deposits ?
10  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The Great 1.1X Bitcoin Rush-- New round at 5:15 EST! on: June 22, 2011, 10:29:29 PM
The first round payed a little slower, but I still trust this second one. Nice game Cheesy for all the fearsome out there, with these ratios u can't lose Cheesy
11  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Silkroad Down? on: June 22, 2011, 10:23:42 PM
Be patient.

Look to other roads too.

Or not, whatever.
Are there other roads ?
12  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 1.25x --NO Betting Fee-- wager game With JACKPOT!! (current Jackpot .2875) on: June 22, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
Fixed... was being trolled by chrome
13  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 1.25x --NO Betting Fee-- wager game With JACKPOT!! (current Jackpot .2875) on: June 22, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Maybe it would help if the spreadsheet got updated more often... I've been already paid but it still doesn't refresh.

You had the first bet (#5) for .2 that was paid for .25?  If that's the one, I marked it as pending as soon as the .5 bet came in and as green after 2-3 confirmations on the payout. I know this is a dumb question, He ve you refreshed the page?

Yeah, that's me, but I still see the 8 hour old spreadsheet.
14  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin-Kamikaze.com [Win bitcoins] on: June 22, 2011, 06:36:31 AM
Best game I've ever tried period

http://bitcoin-kamikaze.com/?father=36714
15  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Feeling left out? I've got the answer! on: June 22, 2011, 06:12:24 AM
Maybe if I were drunk this would have seduced me...
16  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 1.25x --NO Betting Fee-- wager game With JACKPOT!! (current Jackpot .2875) on: June 22, 2011, 06:02:54 AM
Maybe it would help if the spreadsheet got updated more often... I've been already paid but it still doesn't refresh.
17  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 1.25x --NO Betting Fee-- wager game With JACKPOT!! on: June 22, 2011, 02:44:08 AM
Why would I play this game instead of WiseOldOwl's ? His has more participants and is developed better. Its sad when people can't come up with their own ideas. I mean its open source guy, I think I'm gonna start one too!!
Sometimes too many players will kill the pyramid scheme that this type of game creates...
18  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Way to earn some bitcoins on: June 21, 2011, 12:27:28 AM
Maximum trolling XD
19  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet on: June 21, 2011, 12:25:17 AM
Truecrypt does work like charm...
20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cracking the passwords: Don't blame the MtGox, USERS ARE STUPID on: June 21, 2011, 12:24:01 AM
Nice to know, a little statistics for the curious
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