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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do i get scammed? he want my encrypted wallet hash? on: August 06, 2020, 10:15:05 PM
IT IS A SCAMMER who is IMPERSONATING THE TEAM MEMBERS OF TRUSTSWAP


USING DISCORD NITRO, THEY ARE FAKING THEIR DISCORD ID TO MATCH THE TEAM MEMBERS' ID.


Team members of SWAP will never DM you first. They will never ask you for money or any such stuff.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: July 07, 2019, 03:42:00 AM
For those interested to know about Danny's and Golden's experience:


Read Danny's and Golden's Testimonials available on the team page. It gives information about their backgrounds. Danny's been in IT since a long time. Additionally, Golden has spent a good amount of time learning about and understanding many of the current consensus methods, and has a very good understanding of them.

S
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: July 06, 2019, 11:52:54 PM
Wow

Good news! Didn't expect this process to begin already. Great step forward!!
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: July 02, 2019, 04:49:21 AM
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: June 30, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
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Its only your delusional mind or that of the other trolls that posts this stupidity. So let me ask you this: what are you going to do when we start to release our tech and the truth rises to the surface??

Coward. Come to a discussion outside of your moderation tools. There is no tech, there is no developer any longer, and there is no release coming. Prove that Borzalom is still with this project. You can not even do that.


Are you that clueless and stupid, Sabih? Don’t  you know that Borz posted his message on discord that he is very well with XTRABYTES Ltd? Is this  your (futile) attempt to malign the image of XTRABYTES and instill panic among the investors? You need to up your game or just retire to a corner.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: June 30, 2019, 12:48:51 AM

VC translates into the company answering to a entity they may not have the best interests of the company but more so for the bottom line- which can be misleading in regards to running a successful project/effort.


YES, because dave and borz have the best interests of xby at heart. gimme a break. thank god we were saved from a VC and got XFUEL, which competes with XBY, no exchanges, CEO/COO who quit, no patents and yes another token...XIP which no one has really explained yet.

How fucking blind are you people?

Fuck, I wont argue with you on that topic, I may be. Help me understand the differences between xby and xfuel - and of late, XIP.


XBY - is the original coin that we pulled from the ashes, effectively preventing all original investors of the Bitmox ICO from losing their money and being scammed (like had happened so often until that point) by whoever started the ICO. As such, XTRABYTES did not have any funding from the ICO, therefore no development money. As a matter of fact, for the first 6 months we tried developing exclusively with free volunteers - which was not working because people need to be paid for their time - but this laid the foundation of commitment from some people and we expanded after that beyond the release of XFUEL.

XFUEL - was released as a result of this situation of no ICO funding to pay for our long term development goals. It does not complete with XBY and XTRABYTES would not exist today if we did not have XFUEL to pay for development and give all of our volunteers something to trade their time, talents and expertise for, which most are actually accumulating, rather than selling... giving them tremendous wealth potential in the future if we collectively deliver a powerful product and platform. This is exactly what we intend to do - this is what we are working towards.

XIP - is not a new token - this will be a representation of real shares from the real company that will own our patents. Our long term intention (after meeting all applicable laws) is to allow people the option to own part of the XTRABYTES project, which is driven by XFUEL and represented by the original XBY.










so you create xby in order to prevent yourself from losing money, because you and borz fell for the scam, then you create XFUEL because you don't use the xby dev fund made up from xby trxs for some reason no one has really explained. XFUEL itself competes with xby, thus doubling the circulating supply, aaaaaaaaand then, you come up with another 'store' of value called XIP that people must buy in order to "OWN PART OF XBY" even though those same people already bought XBY coin and XFUEL token.

am I missing something?

also, any elephant stories? Smiley


DUDE, whoever you are - if you use your manipulating skills at another location, you might make some money. Please do that.

CCR clearly said:

XBY - is the original coin that we pulled from the ashes, effectively preventing all original investors of the Bitmox ICO from losing their money and being scammed (like had happened so often until that point) by whoever started the ICO. As such, XTRABYTES did not have any funding from the ICO, therefore no development money. As a matter of fact, for the first 6 months we tried developing exclusively with free volunteers - which was not working because people need to be paid for their time - but this laid the foundation of commitment from some people and we expanded after that beyond the release of XFUEL.

XFUEL - was released as a result of this situation of no ICO funding to pay for our long term development goals. It does not complete with XBY and XTRABYTES would not exist today if we did not have XFUEL to pay for development and give all of our volunteers something to trade their time, talents and expertise for, which most are actually accumulating, rather than selling... giving them tremendous wealth potential in the future if we collectively deliver a powerful product and platform. This is exactly what we intend to do - this is what we are working towards.

XIP - is not a new token - this will be a representation of real shares from the real company that will own our patents. Our long term intention (after meeting all applicable laws) is to allow people the option to own part of the XTRABYTES project, which is driven by XFUEL and represented by the original XBY.


Why is there a confusion here? If he or Borz wanted to scam, they would have started from the scratch, why would they continue with bitmox?
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: June 27, 2019, 02:05:19 AM
Guys,

The team is working for the company: XTRABYTES LTD.

The team is being paid in XFUEL.

Hope this is clear.

S
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: June 24, 2019, 04:41:32 AM
Why all the hate and deleted comments?


Please join the official discord of XTRABYTES and get your project specific questions clarified. We will do our best to answer them with the information that is currently available.

Three Patent documents are currently in the works, to be submitted to the patent office once they are finished. The exact time-line for this is unknown, but we are certainly getting closer.

Team information can be found here: https://xtrabytes.global/team
Discord Invite: https://discord.xtrabytes.global/

9  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: May 16, 2018, 01:55:29 PM
And we have an answer from the provider-

Before a round starts we form a stack of cards, this is Result, then we generate random Secret and calculate Hash from Result+Secret, which is shown to the player before he places a bet.  From the player we receive his bet and Client Seed, check Result and in the end we have Final Result.
To check the round we offer Verify Service. The player sends Result+Secret and Seed and receives  Hash + Final Result.

'secret={"deck":"AD:8D:KS:TS:4H:2D:8H:TS:TS:JD:4C:7S:AC:3S:6D:QD:JD:QS:JS:QS:3D:2D:2D:8D:TS:3S:7D:JS:TS:6D:JH:AH:6H:8D:6C:8H:5S:4H:8C:6H:9C:4D:7H:QC:JS:AS:2H:6S:AS:4S:4H:7H:2S:6S:3H:2C:JC:4C:QD:9C:QC:JC:JH:8S:TD:JS:2H:9S:5C:7D:3D:3C:AC:JD:QC:KS:2S:5D:2S:4D:2C:6S:3C:AS:6S:TS:3S:4D:KD:5H:JC:QD:8H:9H:7S:KD:5C:5D:TC:5H:TD:7C:KH:9H:3D:QC:JD:8D:KS:9C:7S:KC:KC:TD:7S:KC:KD:2D:AH:3H:6D:3H:7D:2C:7C:TH:AD:KD:5C:KC:3S:JS:7S:8S:TC:JH:4H:AC:KD:5H:3D:KS:5H:AC:2S:3D:7H:4S:3C:QC:6D:8C:6S:QH:7C:TH:JH:9S:4C:4D:AD:QS:9C:3C:QS:7D:TC:8C:TD:5H:AD:AH:4S:4D:QH:5C:9D:9S:9H:8C:2S:4H:5H:8H:TD:KD:9D:2D:AS:AD:7C:4C:6C:KS:8C:5S:5C:3D:5S:9H:TD:2H:JS:4D:8D:QH:TH:JC:AS:KH:JD:7D:3S:JH:6H:5D:6H:QH:7H:9S:6C:8S:7H:9D:AH:2H:QD:QC:KH:3S:KH:6H:2H:AH:AC:2D:6H:2C:5C:9D:4S:2S:9D:4C:QS:8S:9C:7H:JH:KC:4S:8H:6D:TH:8H:3H:3H:QD:KS:7D:TC:6D:8C:TC:QH:3C:6C:TH:6C:AC:QH:9H:5D:4C:2C:2C:4H:7C:JC:7C:6C:8S:9C:5S:5S:JD:8S:2H:9D:KH:6S:TC:TH:KH:AD:5S:5D:QD:AH:4S:5D:QS:AS:3C:9S:9S:JC:3H:7S:KC:9H:8D","game":"MultihandBlackjack","secret":"e0cddc60ac48a3b940be78c9e73ceea3"}&client_seed=86'

{"hash":"b229956571f88ac0acf4410cffd23a36dd5e34986d63d9827215131a0fb64571","result":"3S:4D:KD:5H:JC:QD:8H:9H:7S:KD:5C:5D:TC:5H:TD:7C:KH:9H:3D:QC:JD:8D:KS:9C:7S:KC:KC:TD:7S:KC:KD:2D:AH:3H:6D:3H:7D:2C:7C:TH:AD:KD:5C:KC:3S:JS:7S:8S:TC:JH:4H:AC:KD:5H:3D:KS:5H:AC:2S:3D:7H:4S:3C:QC:6D:8C:6S:QH:7C:TH:JH:9S:4C:4D:AD:QS:9C:3C:QS:7D:TC:8C:TD:5H:AD:AH:4S:4D:QH:5C:9D:9S:9H:8C:2S:4H:5H:8H:TD:KD:9D:2D:AS:AD:7C:4C:6C:KS:8C:5S:5C:3D:5S:9H:TD:2H:JS:4D:8D:QH:TH:JC:AS:KH:JD:7D:3S:JH:6H:5D:6H:QH:7H:9S:6C:8S:7H:9D:AH:2H:QD:QC:KH:3S:KH:6H:2H:AH:AC:2D:6H:2C:5C:9D:4S:2S:9D:4C:QS:8S:9C:7H:JH:KC:4S:8H:6D:TH:8H:3H:3H:QD:KS:7D:TC:6D:8C:TC:QH:3C:6C:TH:6C:AC:QH:9H:5D:4C:2C:2C:4H:7C:JC:7C:6C:8S:9C:5S:5S:JD:8S:2H:9D:KH:6S:TC:TH:KH:AD:5S:5D:QD:AH:4S:5D:QS:AS:3C:9S:9S:JC:3H:7S:KC:9H:8D:AD:8D:KS:TS:4H:2D:8H:TS:TS:JD:4C:7S:AC:3S:6D:QD:JD:QS:JS:QS:3D:2D:2D:8D:TS:3S:7D:JS:TS:6D:JH:AH:6H:8D:6C:8H:5S:4H:8C:6H:9C:4D:7H:QC:JS:AS:2H:6S:AS:4S:4H:7H:2S:6S:3H:2C:JC:4C:QD:9C:QC:JC:JH:8S:TD:JS:2H:9S:5C:7D:3D:3C:AC:JD:QC:KS:2S:5D:2S:4D:2C:6S:3C:AS:6S:TS"}

The player calculated hash from The Final Result
 'secret=3S:4D:KD:5H:JC:QD:8H:9H:7S:KD:5C:5D:TC:5H:TD:7C:KH:9H:3D:QC:JD:8D:KS:9C:7S:KC:KC:TD:7S:KC:KD:2D:AH:3H:6D:3H:7D:2C:7C:TH:AD:KD:5C:KC:3S:JS:7S:8S:TC:JH:4H:AC:KD:5H:3D:KS:5H:AC:2S:3D:7H:4S:3C:QC:6D:8C:6S:QH:7C:TH:JH:9S:4C:4D:AD:QS:9C:3C:QS:7D:TC:8C:TD:5H:AD:AH:4S:4D:QH:5C:9D:9S:9H:8C:2S:4H:5H:8H:TD:KD:9D:2D:AS:AD:7C:4C:6C:KS:8C:5S:5C:3D:5S:9H:TD:2H:JS:4D:8D:QH:TH:JC:AS:KH:JD:7D:3S:JH:6H:5D:6H:QH:7H:9S:6C:8S:7H:9D:AH:2H:QD:QC:KH:3S:KH:6H:2H:AH:AC:2D:6H:2C:5C:9D:4S:2S:9D:4C:QS:8S:9C:7H:JH:KC:4S:8H:6D:TH:8H:3H:3H:QD:KS:7D:TC:6D:8C:TC:QH:3C:6C:TH:6C:AC:QH:9H:5D:4C:2C:2C:4H:7C:JC:7C:6C:8S:9C:5S:5S:JD:8S:2H:9D:KH:6S:TC:TH:KH:AD:5S:5D:QD:AH:4S:5D:QS:AS:3C:9S:9S:JC:3H:7S:KC:9H:8D:AD:8D:KS:TS:4H:2D:8H:TS:TS:JD:4C:7S:AC:3S:6D:QD:JD:QS:JS:QS:3D:2D:2D:8D:TS:3S:7D:JS:TS:6D:JH:AH:6H:8D:6C:8H:5S:4H:8C:6H:9C:4D:7H:QC:JS:AS:2H:6S:AS:4S:4H:7H:2S:6S:3H:2C:JC:4C:QD:9C:QC:JC:JH:8S:TD:JS:2H:9S:5C:7D:3D:3C:AC:JD:QC:KS:2S:5D:2S:4D:2C:6S:3C:AS:6S:TS'
{"hash":"29c4f53a178f85f7c35479e662f1724fd554f1e35672fbc5a47f1f217b0fc5bf","result":""}

In this case the player was incorrect with verifying his round.





Hello Betchain,

The screenshot I sent clearly has the final result calculated from the result+secret, and still the final result is incorrect from the final result shown. I think this needs a closer look as well.

S
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: May 16, 2018, 01:43:07 PM
Hi,
This is the latest response we received from our platform provider-

"I have never heard back from the player.

We do not have information about Result and Secret of the game round of this player. He calculated the hash incorrectly , that's why the results in the end do not match.
This is a one time case that happened as a result of the incorrect actions of the player."



Hello Betchain Brian,

I did respond to the email as well.

I am 100% sure that I calculated everything correctly. The screenshot itself has all the details in it. I didn't forge anything. Plus, you should have all the results too right. Please look into this.

S
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: March 11, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
Thanks man!
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: March 11, 2018, 09:28:25 PM
All of our games are provided by 3rd party providers. They will send us their findings.



this is basically the gist of the email I got back... both my emails to betchain are already summarized in the thread here.
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: March 11, 2018, 06:39:34 PM
Even I'm waiting
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: March 02, 2018, 03:37:50 AM
Hi,
As you know, we have sent the screenshots to the game provider.

I'll keep you posted via email as soon as I hear back.

Thanks for your patience!

Thanks. Please do understand that I wasn't faking it or trying to scam your site. It was all genuine and I actually sent the first email within very few minutes of its happening.

There were total of 8 instances when this happened (6 times when I was in good profits, so didn't bother to take screenshots.)


Please take a look into this.

I am also very curious how the game provided will investigate into this? What if the provider just says everything is fair? It clearly isn't. Is there a methodology where you have all the game hashes and results present?

Sunny2903
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetChain.com |over 1,000 games | Jackpots | Provably Fair on: February 28, 2018, 06:33:48 PM
Hi Brian from Betchain..

I am a new user on betchain.com and deposited about 12.6 LTC on your site.


The multihand blackjack said it was provably fair, but I had at least 6 instances when the verification failed, and on all these hands: the dealer either made a blackjack or made 21 with less than 7 on his face up card.

I emailed support@betchain.com too with the 2 screenshots; no response. When I contacted live chat, all i got was: it was provided by 3rd party, we can't do anything.

This is really bad for a company that advertises as provably fair.

Sunny2903


PIC: 1:  https://imgur.com/a/pFioE   --- image when I had about 11 LTC left in my account.


PIC: 2:  https://imgur.com/a/QAtDV   ---- image when I had 1.xx LTC  left.



I found multiple other times as well... but I didn't bother as my total money on your site  was more than my deposits at that time.

I went to quickhash website and verified the hash of the final results shown. They didn't match with the result hash provided on the provably fair verification tool on your site. This is really bad.
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