Can I haz new block plees?

I rethought the PPLNS system last night and think I overlooked an important aspect.

Say the pool is in the middle of a block of usual "length". When you leave at this point, you will get not credit at all for that block. But if you join the next day, the pool is in the middle of such a block again, you will get full credit for that one, even though you haven't mined since the beginning of that round.

Thats exactly what Reikoku said a few posts back, I must have overlooked that too, sry .

So this method shouldn't be disadvantageous for non 24/7 miners after all.

I'm not a genius @ math, but my instinct tells me, that when I shut my sys down over night, I will typically, or often, lose all the shares that were generated for the last round, whereas with Menis algo, I won't be losing any shares, but the ones for that round will be worth less when a block is found, becuz thats how it works.

So why should non 24/7 miners stay at this pool? Plz let me know .

No, I'm not realizing it. There are theoretical constellations where the payout would be fair but most times it won't.

I do realize, that the "original" method isn't completely fair to non 24/7 miners either, but its more so than PPLNS for sure.

Lol thats my prob mate - I'm a 16/24 miner at most .

Not everyone is on IRC - I was for the longest time but chose to step back from it.

Anyway, I remember I asked you about fair scoring the day I joined and pointed you to the original method for fair scoring, also know as the "score method". You replied, that it was "way too complex".

Other pools, however, are running with this algo, namely: Slush, BTCMine, Continuum and a few others - these are huge pools so it can't be impossible to implement it in a practical way.

If you guys talked about it though and you think the method you are using now is fine, thats OK - there are plenty of other pools around for me. If you should change it sometime, I will prob come back.

Too bad you chose the lame and deprecated Eligius approach to "fair" scoring, Wuked. I was on this pool since before the first block was found, but this forces me to go back to BTCMine .

Hmm ok, seems like the idea wasn't as good as I thought then .

Thanx for the input and good luck in re-selling your card um0rion .

Some ppl are selling graphics cards with failures, such as the displayed image contains artifacts, weird patterns of random colored pixels or turns all green after a few seconds, etc.

Has anyone experience with such cards? How are the chances that cards with issues like that are still good for mining?

Me too .

Btw.: any of you guys have a payout for block 17 and/or 18 in your wallet yet? Its 2 hours since the site told the payout was made, but it didn't show up in my wallet as of now.

EDIT: never mind, it just showed up, after almost 2 1/2 hours, OMG .

Ppl can see that we are on a new block anyway. Its just that some miners where switching pools because of that long block and we could need new blood to replace them - I believe that was Wukeds intend.

So come and join in if you're not a pool hopper - we have a great community on IRC going too .

LuL.

Exactly, the "score" method is the way of the future and its the most fair one. Especially now that Multipool offers an easy way to exploit the regular proportional pools.

Awesome pool - just started mining here and didn't have a single stale share yet with 250 total submitted. I never got below at least 2% rejected shares on any other pool I tried.

Did you give the server steroids or whats going on Wuked? Very nice !

Yea, me too. This is a great pool, when its running .

Simplecoin - I think it will be best, if you keep the pool offline for a few days, fix the DDoS vulnerability and make it more stable.

If you let it run the way it currently does, you will scare away your entire userbase .

Any chance, you will be implementing a cheat-proof scoring method in the future? Its the only thing holding me back to mine with your pool.

Mine too again.

Stats seem to be correct now, thanks a bunch!