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1401  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I got my FPGA Mining Controller....how about you ? on: February 29, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
And you think this was appropriate for this board, how?
Sorry Diablo....I got a little carried away.
You know how it is, you can only put up with stupidity for so long at times.....especially when people can't even read what you type, yet still feel the need to comment.

I will control my replies better next time.

Dude, you think this is bad? Try #bitcoin on freenode.
1402  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I got my FPGA Mining Controller....how about you ? on: February 29, 2012, 04:06:53 PM
Quote from: bitlane
Quote from: Wandering Albatross
If I recall the numbers you won't have enough time to recoup the $3600 for the BFLs with only 4-6 months of mining.

12-(2+4) = 6
or
12-(2+6) = 4

You have free power? That would help.
LOL...no, the 4-6 months is when the BFL units would ship out to the regular public after pre-orders are all filled Wink

Well maybe you don't know this. The current reward will be halved in Dec. (a.k.a. 12th month). So how do your profit numbers look?
You'll have 3-5 months actually since March is close. Does the math confuse you? There are some online calculators.

JESUS H. CHRIST....

I NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO PROFIT, PAYBACK OR RECOVERY......GET OVER YOURSELF.

MY TIME-BASED COMMENT WAS THE TIME THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY RECEIVE A UNIT AFTER PRE-ORDERS WERE FILLED AND THE JOKE ABOUT BFL'S DELIVERY TIME.
....now take that online calculator and shove it up your ass.

Quit trying to read between the lines and simple read WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE OP.

If I was worried about ROI, I wouldn't have ever considered purchasing new hardware at this point in the game...so YES, I know about rewards-halving.....

FUCK OFF...



And you think this was appropriate for this board, how?
1403  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 28, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
New problem getting HW errors out the wazoo.. 226 accepted 63000 HW error? WTF

Aaaand theres the crossfire bug, one of two. One makes all gpus beyond the first one spew constant crap, the other makes all kernel executions run on the first GPU only. Either way, for a dual GPU setup, it cuts your actual useful hashrate in half.

Seriously, mining on Windows is way more trouble than its worth.
1404  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 28, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
If you can get the system working we have some interesting numbers.

16 x 5970 @ 390 MH/s per GPU = 12480 MH/s
At the current difficulty and at a value of $4.8 per BTC would see break even in less than 6 months.
This includes $1200 for the system build and $400 per 5970.

16 X 7990 @ 600 MH/s per GPU = 19200 MH/s
At the current difficulty and at a value of $4.8 per BTC would see break even in 7 months.
This includes $1200 for the system build and $849 per 7990

It would be nice if it can be hashing before the halving.

Except you cant buy 5970s, and 7990s will be dropping in about 6 months.... so buy the 5970s now, sell them, and replace them with 7990s Wink

Did you mean you CAN buy 5970's? 

Nope, can't. Almost all the used ones on ebay are owned by insane overclocker gamer types, and have done dumb shit like throw out the stock hsf in favor of improperly installing a wc block that probably cracked the dies.

Total YMMV territory.


Huh.  I have purchased at least 8 off of Ebay, and every single one of them is working great.  The only issue I had was a bad fan, and that fixed with a $39 fan and about 20 minutes work. 

Have you had bad experiences personally, or are you simply speculating? 

Aggregating bad experiences of others.
1405  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 28, 2012, 04:21:55 PM
Tried without -D also tried with -D1,2. No Xfire bridge installed and I can see bot GPU's. Xfire is disabled.

Huh. Try the opposite: plug the xfire bridge in, and enable xfire in CCC. 12.1 and up have radically different behavior with regards to how it handles compute programs.
1406  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Poolops what do you do with miners shares? on: February 28, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
Eligius is experimental, and I don't consider it appropriate to guarantee any single behaviour. My current project for Eligius is enabling miners to do realtime auditing and block customization (like p2pool).

Does Eligius attack alt chains? (sorry for the off topic)

Yes, it does. It seeks out alt chains to destroy them, like a fucking death star, all fuckin' Darth Luke, nigga.
1407  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 28, 2012, 04:03:18 PM
Diablo  I have an old 32bit xp machine with 2 5770's in it and for some reason the miner will not see the second GPU. I can see it in device manager, GPU-z, and afterburner but not diablominer..  IDK i'm stumped on this one.

What arguments? Because if you're using -D, don't. Also, you might be getting stung by "Windows haets Crossfire"
1408  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 28, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
If you can get the system working we have some interesting numbers.

16 x 5970 @ 390 MH/s per GPU = 12480 MH/s
At the current difficulty and at a value of $4.8 per BTC would see break even in less than 6 months.
This includes $1200 for the system build and $400 per 5970.

16 X 7990 @ 600 MH/s per GPU = 19200 MH/s
At the current difficulty and at a value of $4.8 per BTC would see break even in 7 months.
This includes $1200 for the system build and $849 per 7990

It would be nice if it can be hashing before the halving.

Except you cant buy 5970s, and 7990s will be dropping in about 6 months.... so buy the 5970s now, sell them, and replace them with 7990s Wink

Did you mean you CAN buy 5970's? 

Nope, can't. Almost all the used ones on ebay are owned by insane overclocker gamer types, and have done dumb shit like throw out the stock hsf in favor of improperly installing a wc block that probably cracked the dies.

Total YMMV territory.
1409  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 28, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
If you can get the system working we have some interesting numbers.

16 x 5970 @ 390 MH/s per GPU = 12480 MH/s
At the current difficulty and at a value of $4.8 per BTC would see break even in less than 6 months.
This includes $1200 for the system build and $400 per 5970.

16 X 7990 @ 600 MH/s per GPU = 19200 MH/s
At the current difficulty and at a value of $4.8 per BTC would see break even in 7 months.
This includes $1200 for the system build and $849 per 7990

It would be nice if it can be hashing before the halving.

Except you cant buy 5970s, and 7990s will be dropping in about 6 months.... so buy the 5970s now, sell them, and replace them with 7990s Wink
1410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today! on: February 27, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Well, this is interesting. It is now predicting the market is going to go down, and the market is going down.

Gasp! I wonder if the Predictinator actually works.
1411  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 27, 2012, 06:24:17 AM
Retarded design. Who will install so much cards and without any space between them.

Because thats meant for 10/40/100gbit cards, which are one slot wide. I'm laughing because you actually thought it was meant for video cards.
Well, yes. lol. Anyway whats the point in so much lan cards?

Cheap DDOS mitigation and firewall box sitting between the core router and certain customers in a DC. No one is really selling a ready made box for this task, even high end Cisco routing fabric boxes aren't suited for deep packet inspection. Although, if I was actually making a box like this, I'd use a bunch of Freescale QorIQ T4* series chips and use their own fabric provide everything and shove it in a 2U box.

*The P4 chips, the octocore 1.5ghz 64bit PPC predecessor of the T4, have 2 10gbit NICs and 8 1gbit NICs, hardware DSPs/ASICs dedicated to deep packet inspection acceleration, and a routing fabric that can be used to build a communications bus between multiple SoCs; so you could easily build a box with 4 of these and be able to handle DDOS mitigation for something like 80 gbit of incoming traffic, front ending 32 1gbit client boxes (which themselves can be maxing out at 64 gbit full duplex) without blinking.

That would also be about a $10k box if mass produced and sold retail.
1412  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 27, 2012, 05:50:50 AM
Retarded design. Who will install so much cards and without any space between them.

Because thats meant for 10/40/100gbit cards, which are one slot wide. I'm laughing because you actually thought it was meant for video cards.
1413  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 27, 2012, 05:39:52 AM
I'm not going to scroll through this thread to ask this question

Those two 8 pin plugs on the board, are those EPS12s or PCI-E 8s? Because if they're EPS12s (384w * 2) and they're wired to the PCI-E 12v rails, you have enough power for 5 5970s/6990s (ten slots worth, so you're still short four cards), or 18 cards of any kind (typically 25-35 watts off the slot, you have a budget of 42 watts).

If those are PCI-E 8s, then thats 150w each so.... 4 5970/6990s, or 9 or 10 normal cards.

I'm also assuming the computer is a low wattage model and only needs the 12v off the ATX24.
Those are 2x EPS12s. However, they get in the way of 2 or 3 slots when in use, which is why I am using the terminal blocks. The SHB I currently have uses 2x low voltage xeons, so not much power at all. However, additional power is needed by other parts on the board such as the PCIe fanout switches, and other SHBs can use hugely powerful CPUs such as dual hex core Xeons. So the board is rather overdesigned for power. (200 amps max at 12 VDC alone, just for the board).

Yeah, the board is basically perfect for mass mining... also, it doesn't really matter if two or three of the slots are blocked, you can only use 16 slots (ie, 8 cards) without fucking with virtualization, the last two are wasted anyways.
1414  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 27, 2012, 05:24:45 AM
I'm not going to scroll through this thread to ask this question

Those two 8 pin plugs on the board, are those EPS12s or PCI-E 8s? Because if they're EPS12s (384w * 2) and they're wired to the PCI-E 12v rails, you have enough power for 5 5970s/6990s (ten slots worth, so you're still short four cards), or 18 cards of any kind (typically 25-35 watts off the slot, you have a budget of 42 watts).

If those are PCI-E 8s, then thats 150w each so.... 4 5970/6990s, or 9 or 10 normal cards.

I'm also assuming the computer is a low wattage model and only needs the 12v off the ATX24.
1415  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 27, 2012, 05:16:50 AM

Yeah, if something important like lwjgl was broken, all those goddamned minecraft players would be up in arms, and CNN would be running a piece on how Oracle is destroying small business in America, and asking the important question of "Which of the Republican candidates play Minecraft.... thats like Star Wars, right?"
1416  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The miner with IP 0.0.0.0 is close to 50% on: February 27, 2012, 05:11:23 AM
Question is what business does ICANN have with mining bitcoins? Maybe they're trying to obtain them or a possible imposter using an IP mask to hide the fact that he's hogging the network.

Please tell me you're trolling, 0.0.0.0 is the address for "broadcast to ALL the networks \o/".
1417  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 27, 2012, 05:08:32 AM
Is there any reason to not use the JRE 7u3 with Diablominer?  Seems to be working fine, though I've only been testing it for a few minutes.  Performance isn't noticeably different.

As long as Oracle didn't botch the release, I don't see why not. Every new major revision of the JVM should execute older bytecode fine, they have entire testing suites for this.
1418  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Neighbourhood Pool Watch 1: No-one should mine at Bitclockers on: February 26, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.
then why my average daily income is 1.6-1.8 where i can get around 2.2 to 2.3 on bitlc, when i tried full time on your pool, without hopping?

don't tell me "it's the variance"

Its the variance.
for couple of days straight?

Deepbit once went like a week without finding a block.
1419  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 26, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
Got my first hw error now after 5000 shares - and only running one instance of DM.

Also performance is acutally much worse, mh/s dropped to ~1435 after the initial 1600 mh/s. TDR did not trigger again, don't know what caused it the first time it happened.

Is there actually a reason I should be worried about hw errors if everything else runs smooth?

1 hw error after 5000 shares is fine. 20000 after 5000 isn't.
1420  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: February 26, 2012, 11:49:49 AM
Ok, running one instance with -v1 -w256 now.

Interestingly performance isn't much worse (was 1626 mh/s with two instances, one with -v1 -w256 for gcn and one with -v2 -w128 for vliw), now with one instance I get 1604 mh/s...

CPU usage is still strange, though: 50% on a dualcore, affinity set to *both* cores. If I would run into the classic cpu bug, it should consume 100% of the cpu, right?!

And as I wrote this, TDR triggered on one of the 5850... ouch. Can this be caused by different vector/worksize settings? (Never used -v1 -w256 on the 5850 before)

-v 1 -w 256 works fine on vliw5 and vliw4 chipsets, it just doesn't have enough instruction parallel work to saturate all the ALUs for most of the cycles (-v 2 almost does, -v 2,1 does on vliw5 (but might be slower anyways) and runs out of registers on vliw4).

I think Windows is just fail that you're continuing to have 100% cpu usage.
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