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361  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter: Dedicated Mining ASIC Project (Open for Discussion) on: December 31, 2012, 06:59:40 AM
If their 4.2J/GH number is correct, each chip is dissipating 1.3W. They aren't going to require anything special at all for cooling, likely small BGA heatsinks with pressure sensitive thermal adhesive would be fine.

Yeah, but if the chips remain stable at high clock rates while driving the voltage up, it'll need much better cooling. Also, its cheaper and saner to just use one large heatsink thats mounted on the board instead of placing the entire load on the chip itself.
362  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter: Dedicated Mining ASIC Project (Open for Discussion) on: December 31, 2012, 06:24:29 AM
Just a thought on cooling, if they're laid out in squares of 9 or 16 chips then off the shelf CPU coolers could be used.

Only if thermal pads are used.  Otherwise, the height and angle of the chip package surfaces is not likely to be uniform enough to ensure good thermal coupling with all of them.

Thermal pads aren't magically bad here, though. They have high end ones that conduct as much heat as shitty paste and only slightly less than high end paste (that no OEM ever uses, they always use the shitty paste on GPUs, or shitty pads on CPU HSFs).

These chips are probably sane at higher core voltages than what friedcat has announced (1.2v), but the problem is heat output. High end thermal pads would still work well here because the chips simply don't get hot enough to warrant paste (and like I said, OEMs don't even use high end paste, even ASUS's ultra expensive premium GPUs with the triple wide coolers use generic paste, which is kind of a shame).

AlCu alloy heatsinks (light like Al, heat conductive like Cu, half as expensive as pure Cu) they use in low profile rackmount servers would probably work well here.
363  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter: Dedicated Mining ASIC Project (Open for Discussion) on: December 30, 2012, 08:28:27 AM

In the case of Avalon: $4000-5000 per wafer, 4055 chips per wafer, $1/chip: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120184.msg1402474#msg1402474

Hrm, if they're aiming for 66gh per unit, and each chip does 0.75gh, its approximately 88 chips per unit. Packaging and testing cost is, what, another 50 cents per? And completing the product (PCB manuf, mounting components on PCB, etc) is another, say, ~$120 per unit? Thats only a 5x markup from the sales price, how are they staying in business? =/

I am in shock! Are people seriously running numbers on Avalon ASIC using BFL as a base of measurement? Aside from the bold statement above, everything else is false. At this point I consider these statements slander: giving the public an impression Avalon is very cheap to produce and the fact of the matter is it really isn't. To put in prospective, a decent PSU is ~$90.

Saying I used BFL as a base of measurement is slander. I forgot about the case and the PSU, so don't get your jimmies rustled.
364  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner on: December 30, 2012, 08:26:42 AM
Update: When I modularized the code, I forgot to readd the code that sends the miner back to the first pool every hour. Now it does.
365  Economy / Securities / Re: Diablo Mining Company [shifting gears] on: December 30, 2012, 07:48:18 AM
So, I got the final list from nefario.

It now says there was 11648 shares in the wild including the 69 I owned. Its still short of the 11909 I last saw, but the total on that list adds up to the full 1 million shares (it also lists the unsold shares as well). I will assume this list is accurate.

I'm going to be handing this list over to Ukto to get the shares redistributed.
366  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter: Dedicated Mining ASIC Project (Open for Discussion) on: December 29, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
It would be possible to know which is the manufacturing cost of a single integrated?
+1

How does it cost to produce an ASIC chip once the design is all done?

In the case of Avalon: $4000-5000 per wafer, 4055 chips per wafer, $1/chip: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120184.msg1402474#msg1402474

Hrm, if they're aiming for 66gh per unit, and each chip does 0.75gh, its approximately 88 chips per unit. Packaging and testing cost is, what, another 50 cents per? And completing the product (PCB manuf, mounting components on PCB, etc) is another, say, ~$120 per unit? Thats only a 5x markup from the sales price, how are they staying in business? =/
367  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter: Dedicated Mining ASIC Project (Open for Discussion) on: December 28, 2012, 02:18:57 AM
Update

After a long and anxious waiting, we have finally got our packaged chip samples at hand. Everyone would be busy in the following 2-3 weeks.

The following pics are taken from my cellphone.

I came.
368  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: December 26, 2012, 06:29:35 AM
but all rational people base their opinions on evidence (and the intelligent ones change their opinion based on that evidence if it is warranted).

See, this is what I've been trying to tell you, and you said it more concisely than I have.

Please, pony up the evidence.

I want to believe BFL is real and not a long con. I want to believe that the ASICs are real and are coming real soon now and are going to work as well as everyone has hoped. I want to believe BFL just didnt run off with a million dollars in BTC. I want to believe BFL treats their customers LIKE customers instead of using them as a cheap source of venture capital and all these victims are really hoodwinked investors.

I'm not the bad guy here, even if you want to paint me as such.
369  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: December 25, 2012, 11:23:47 PM
In Austria we call this time of the year, around Christmas, "die stade Zeit" (the quiet time). We meet family and friends, spend some quality time together.

Scanning through the forums it seems Inaba post 3x as much as usual. Which made me think: Does he have no one to talk to in real life?

Or hell, just hire a prostitute and spend some "quality time" with her. Or him, if thats his thing.
370  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: December 24, 2012, 11:48:54 PM
This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.

And remember, the points don't matter.
371  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: December 24, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
You keep saying this, but as per your usual mode of operations you are just pulling "facts" out of your ass.  

THEN CORRECT HIM WITH YOUR OWN FACTS. This is why people laugh at you to your face, you just go around saying people are wrong without offering opposing view points.
372  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: December 24, 2012, 06:52:04 PM
I think a lot of the inconsistencies arise from normal daily operations. Things change, I'm not sure it can get any simpler.

When you are trying to build a business, product, whatever of significant magnitude, it's like trying to fly a plane while you are putting it together. When shit happens, you change the plan while you are still flying.

I experience this everyday. Unless you have a reality distortion field like Apple (which their's has even started to falter a bit, aka Apple maps...) things NEVER GO AS PLANNED.

What's that saying "the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray". You try to plan for the unknown unknowns, but something almost always comes up that takes your plans and throws them out the window.

I'm sure this post will bring out the "gigavps is a BFL shill" but this is the reality of things when you are building a business.

To be fair, Apple never had a RDF. Steve Jobs did. RIP Steve Jobs.
373  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner on: December 24, 2012, 08:33:37 AM
Update: Force OSX to do -w 64 by default, improve -56 test
374  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New ASIC project on: December 24, 2012, 04:28:15 AM

Whoever has the oldest Bitcoin transaction wins.
375  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New ASIC project on: December 24, 2012, 04:23:35 AM

I made that joke earlier.
376  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMiner chips out of fab next week on: December 24, 2012, 02:54:22 AM
Give em all (asicminer,BFL, Basic, Avolon etc) a scammertag UNTILL they deliver an fucking working device please ...

Reading all this crap makes me sick but i have to because the BTC is excactly what we need not the endless discussion of an THEORIE its almost like Darwin vs God fuck it until i see an device working

Srry just had to spil my guts here

You and I both know thats not how it works.
377  Economy / Securities / Re: usagi, NYAN, BMF do not own DMC shares on: December 24, 2012, 02:53:41 AM
You never gave me an address to send the 5 BTC to. I asked repeatedly for it.

Where did you ask? There's no record of it on here as I'm aware.

You can send it to my firstbits. It's my well-known public address.

1usagi8WQJvnCoyV21XSZyUHhC6MzfksW

I think last time I asked was before you ragequit IRC for over a month.

There, I sent the 5 BTC. Now you can't claim I don't pay people that I owe.
378  Economy / Securities / Re: usagi, NYAN, BMF do not own DMC shares on: December 24, 2012, 02:52:36 AM
You never gave me an address to send the 5 BTC to. I asked repeatedly for it.

Where did you ask? There's no record of it on here as I'm aware.

You can send it to my firstbits. It's my well-known public address.

1usagi8WQJvnCoyV21XSZyUHhC6MzfksW

I think last time I asked was before you ragequit IRC for over a month.
379  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: December 24, 2012, 02:51:43 AM
The usual band of idiots have no idea what they are talking about... what a surprise.  For those wondering, everything PG, PL, et al is completely false and as usual they are just making things up without that pesky reality thing getting in the way.

Then provide the valid information. BFL, as a joke, stopped being funny months ago. We're all sitting here waiting for the punchline.
380  Economy / Securities / Re: usagi, NYAN, BMF do not own DMC shares on: December 23, 2012, 09:48:34 PM
Including quite a number of DMC shares. So you can go fuck yourself.

Are you saying DiabloD3 is lying?

I think what usagi is saying is that his claim for shares IS in Diablo's list - just Diablo jumped the gun because he didn't recognise any email on the list as being usagi's.  Usagi could have used an entirely different email on GLBSE (to the ones Diablo knew he used), in which case he likely already has an email from Diablo confirming the shares (though Diablo doesn't realise it's usagi) so KNOWS his claim has been forwarded.  If that's the case then this thread is pointless and the title is untrue.  Obviously I have no idea if that's the case.

I checked back to see where I got the impression usagi had sold DMC for 0.1 - turns out that was just nyan.b's DMC (the ones obtained in the interesting swap), not all of them.

My instinct and the available facts tell me that on this particular issue usagi is telling the truth and Diablo just jumped to a wrong conclusion.

He only has to confirm with me what the email address is. I will process all the claims no matter what, but I find it very strange he won't confirm what the email he used for the claims process is. Given what is status quo around these parts, I just don't want usagi to scam his shareholders.

Just process your claims. As of right now I have zero e-mails from you on the claim address, so I have no idea what you're planning to do. Your most recent forum post says you're going to list on bitfunder. Great, go do that. It's very convenient since BMF is also listed on bitfunder right now.

but I don't see how it's your job to go picking through the claims list and then troll the forums because you don't see an e-mail address you recognize. Are you really that stupid? That you would make such a dumb statement that I don't own any shares just because you don't recognize my e-mail address? I expected more from you. But being honest I don't know why.

I supported you. I owned 50% of DMC for a long time. I represented you and got your asset back for you and you turned around and stiffed me.. i.e. ripped me off... on the 5 bitcoins you said you would pay me for representing you. And now this. Diablo.. you suck... seriously. I can't believe you would say something so stupid as what you did in this thread. I was not making any noise whatsoever about BMF and DMC. Some people even thought I had sold it. I had not presented any asset lists for BMF or any other company. I was not claiming ownership publicly. So the whole premise that I was scamming people is STUPID. Never mind the mammoth fk'up you made since I actually am on the list.

I wish you and other dumbass trolls would just roll over and die. What a monumental waste of time this has become for me. You and this stupid thread are the best example I could ask for regarding why this forum sucks and is not a good place to do business. Why don't you just do your job and stop bothering me?

You never gave me an address to send the 5 BTC to. I asked repeatedly for it.
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