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481  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: October 29, 2012, 10:42:35 PM
Are most people with Radeon cards still using Diablo inside of Cgminer or BFGMiner for the best hash rates?

You should use whichever kernel gets you the best speed. Though, in 3-6 months, I don't think its going to matter.
482  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 22, 2012, 10:01:24 AM
let's just hope that GLBSE gives ASICMINER the data because if not, then this is gonna be a mess...

Its already a mess, the question is how big of one is it.
483  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 20, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
And yes, since it wasn't a registered corporation, all of the share holders are personally liable.

Source?

US: Partnerships that are not registered as a LLP or Corp share the liability among all the owners. If one partner in a company owes money, all partners owe it.  If one is found criminally negligent in civil court, all partners are on the hook for damages.
http://www.nolo.com/dictionary/partnership-term.html
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    Refers to a legal structure for a business of two or more individuals; called a general partnership when used without a qualifier such as "limited" or "limited liability." Each owner (partner) is personally liable for all debts of the business, and each partner claims a share of the the business's income or losses on the partner's individual tax return. To form a partnership, each partner normally contributes money, property, or labor in exchange for an ownership interest in the partnership. Most partnerships are created by a formal written partnership agreement, although they may be based on an oral agreement or just a handshake. See also: limited partnership, limited liability partnership (LLP)

UK: Pretty much the same: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/53-54/39
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Liability of partners.Every partner in a firm is liable jointly with the other partners, and in Scotland severally also, for all debts and obligations of the firm incurred while he is a partner; and after his death his estate is also severally liable in a due course of administration for such debts and obligations, so far as they remain unsatisfied, but subject in England or Ireland to the prior payment of his separate debts.

AUS: yep, same thing where all partner is the same as owner and all liability is shared: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/pa1963154/s13.html
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Liability of partner

    (1)     Each partner in a firm other than an incorporated limited partnership is liable jointly with the other partners in the firm for the debts and obligations of the firm incurred while the partner is a partner.

Heh, then if GLBSE pays DMC, oh, 10k BTC, that should cover the damages and we wouldn't need to go to court.
484  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 20, 2012, 06:45:42 AM
So when does goat get a scammer tag for defending nefario?

Oh no... Nefario is a scammer, but cuz he took my assets I bought on GLBSE!   theft is scamming~

I want Nefario to have the tag for the right reason...

Jesus Christ.

Fine. He gets it for your reason and Theymos's reason both.

Someone lock this thread already.
485  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 20, 2012, 06:40:04 AM
So when does goat get a scammer tag for defending nefario?
486  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund [Closing] on: October 17, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
I am happy to report that I have now received the BTC we had deposited at GLBSE Smiley
//DeaDTerra

Great news!

So, how are things looking now regarding a payout?
We currently have about 450 Bitcoins in total liquid BTC,
The rest is in debt or illiquid assets.
//DeaDTerra

Will you be using that 450 in the bot for now?
I will spread it out across the margin bots and arbitrage bot until we reach a more substantial amount.
//DeaDTerra
Yes very good news indeed! Is there any risk of loss here or counterparty risk? I would suggest that we try to preserve what capital we have and use it for paying people back rather than engaging in additional speculative risks at this time. Smiley
There is three risks here,
There's the risk of the operator of the bot running away with the money, I have known him for one and a half years now and we started the bot way before we had any real amount of money in it, plus I meet him in London and know all his ID details Smiley So this risk should be pretty low.
Then there's the risk of a exchange shutting down and running away with our capital, I mean this risk is hard to judge but we trade at MTGox and Bitstamp atm, I know the owners of BitStamp and I trust that if MTGox goes away we have bigger problems to worry about xD
Then there's the risk of the bot running hay wire and losing coins that way, but the bot has been running for half a year and no problems so far, we have manual monitoring of the bot and we have limited trades to limit the damage any potential bug could cause.

I think the profit is worth the risk non the less.
//DeaDTerra

Thats no different than me trusting nefario because Ive known him for like two years, and then his actions destroyed DMC. Not saying your guy will, but watch out.
487  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 15, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Is that true? I heard Nefario won the vote. It seems to me the majority of the GLBSE shareholders voted to keep Nefario as CEO and that he was doing the right thing.

If Nefario did lose that vote then he should have the tag for that... Would be simple, black and white... But I don't think that is what happened.

I lost a vote to remove Nefario as CEO, even though most shareholders at the meeting supported me in this. This does not imply that Nefario would have won a 50% vote to shut down GLBSE, since BitcoinGlobal strangely has no concept of quorum and not every shareholder was at the meeting. Also, it is against the bylaws to shut down GLBSE without a 66% vote.

~23%. Theymos also initiated a vote to remove nefario as CEO, and was outvoted. He then tried to sell his shares in the company because he refused to invest in a company that the CEO refused to listen to the board.

3.3%. (I was selling additional shares owned by other people.) I tried to sell shares long before the vote to remove Nefario, over issues unrelated to the GLBSE shutdown.

Hmm, if Nefario did shut it down without having a vote that does seem to violate the contract. However, is GLBSE really "shut down" as it is still operating? 

It seems to me that GLBSE has not been shut down but is now operating in a different way. GLBSE clearly has not been shut down so giving the tag for that is not just. You would have to show that in operating in this current way then Nefario is a scammer. However I don't think the by laws will support this. The whole point of a CEO is to take action when it is needed.  Since Nefario won the vote clearly he is supported and his actions are supported (why I have no idea).

The scammer tag for this was rushed and not well thought out. It more or less hurt the value of the scammer tag and the trust in the "judges" on the forum.

I strongly think Nefario is a scammer and maybe even a criminal but he has been given the tag in a way that is not just and done so for reasons that were not just.

The tag should be removed and reapplied in a just way.




I don't agree with this analysis.
488  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 15, 2012, 10:36:47 PM
Daily Update

Till now we have collected the claims from 45 shareholders. We are still in waiting of the replies from GLBSE.

Shareholders who see this reply but haven't claimed, please contact us via this e-mail address:  (fnnirvana@gmail.com) and send us
your number of shares and your Bitcoin address for receiving dividends. Please annotate that they are ASICMINER shares to avoid confusion with MU or MOORE shares. You could accompany them with any evidence you think is OK to provide. It is highly recommended that you use an address that you have its private key. By that, you may enjoy more facilities provided by our future automatic migrating platform.

friedcat... so now 22, one half, of the good non-optimal estimation of 45 days until you have the asics are over. Did you contact the supplier and have some new info about the status in the meanwhile? I mean if you were rights its only 23 days now until it maybe could start. Smiley
According to nearest update of foundry, we have past the mask-set process and are in queue of wafer process. We will keep the shareholders updated whenever we reach any new milestones.

Friedcat, perhaps it is time to remove "[GLBSE]" from the topic.
[GLBSE] is removed from the title. Also are other two assets of my responsibility. Thanks.

Can you confirm that you have DMC's claim of 1000 asicminer on your list?
489  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 15, 2012, 04:32:44 AM
Is that true? I heard Nefario won the vote. It seems to me the majority of the GLBSE shareholders voted to keep Nefario as CEO and that he was doing the right thing.

If Nefario did lose that vote then he should have the tag for that... Would be simple, black and white... But I don't think that is what happened.

I lost a vote to remove Nefario as CEO, even though most shareholders at the meeting supported me in this. This does not imply that Nefario would have won a 50% vote to shut down GLBSE, since BitcoinGlobal strangely has no concept of quorum and not every shareholder was at the meeting. Also, it is against the bylaws to shut down GLBSE without a 66% vote.

~23%. Theymos also initiated a vote to remove nefario as CEO, and was outvoted. He then tried to sell his shares in the company because he refused to invest in a company that the CEO refused to listen to the board.

3.3%. (I was selling additional shares owned by other people.) I tried to sell shares long before the vote to remove Nefario, over issues unrelated to the GLBSE shutdown.

Ahh. 3.3%? HEH LETS GIVE THEYMOS 3.3% OF A SCAMMER TAG, HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Okay, I think thats out of my system now.
490  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 15, 2012, 04:30:42 AM
And Theymos?  At the level he was involved

And at what level exactly was Theymos involved? And involved with what, exactly?

Significant ownership of a private partnership company, where liability is shared amongst the owners.

~23%. Theymos also initiated a vote to remove nefario as CEO, and was outvoted. He then tried to sell his shares in the company because he refused to invest in a company that the CEO refused to listen to the board.


Is that true? I heard Nefario won the vote. It seems to me the majority of the GLBSE shareholders voted to keep Nefario as CEO and that he was doing the right thing.

If Nefario did lose that vote then he should have the tag for that... Would be simple, black and white... But I don't think that is what happened.

Sorry if I wasn't clear: I said Theymos lost the vote. Theymos started the vote because nefario wouldn't listen to the board, the rest of the board decided to keep nefario, Theymos ragequit the board.

I don't see why Theymos should actually get a scammer tag, he did everything possible to remove nefario, nefario refused to either leave or stop fucking up, so Theymos washed his hands of it and waved to the Bitanic as it left dock for its maiden voyage.
491  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 15, 2012, 02:16:59 AM
And Theymos?  At the level he was involved

And at what level exactly was Theymos involved? And involved with what, exactly?

Significant ownership of a private partnership company, where liability is shared amongst the owners.

~23%. Theymos also initiated a vote to remove nefario as CEO, and was outvoted. He then tried to sell his shares in the company because he refused to invest in a company that the CEO refused to listen to the board.
492  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: October 13, 2012, 11:10:57 PM
atm you can mine bitcoins at coinlab with any miner. Currently it's just a normal pool.

Should work fine then. Sounds like coinlab has a bug in their pool software.
493  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 13, 2012, 11:03:34 PM
I thought till now that the api-keys are sent encrypted with ssl. But i didnt use the api of glbse till now. I planned to do but now im happy that i didnt spend the time to creat a bot yet. It would be lost time.

MtGox has an interesting approch for api-keys. From the start there is now api key. But you can create more than one and you can give each keys right. So you can create on only for trading but it cant withdraw. So you are save against your api used to steal your money.

If the connections to an https-server through curl isnt encrypted then maybe setup the bot at a website that has ssl themself. Then use the ssl with curl to gain security.

The API key is in the URL. The URL in SSL _is_ encrypted, but SSL is not 100% secure and there are known attacks against it (although, implementation specific ones). The problem is, if you're using the API keys non-locally (such as on a vps or a dedi), you have a gaping security hole. I'm not comfortable with how GLBSE implemented API keys.
494  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 13, 2012, 08:11:15 PM
You mean the api worked with username and password? No api-key? But even when... who should the attacker get the logindetails? I mean most users probably hadnt used 2fa so attacker could simply login and claim the shares. But first he need the logindetails. Where should he get this?

Or does he mean that nefario could use user-pass to claim the shares for himself?

API keys are not secure.
495  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: October 13, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
Wait, do they mine BTC, or do scientific compute jobs? I've heard both, and can't seem to grasp what they actually do for some reason.

Yeah, I cant figure out what they do either. If they're offering non-Bitcoin stuff, obviously DM wont support it.
496  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 13, 2012, 01:06:58 AM
Just filled in the form on GLBSE for my 3 accounts and I hope you'll receive the asset information from Nefario Smiley
(I have splitted to 3 cause I had API enabled... and so anyone with the API URL can steal your funds even with 2FA enabled)

I have about 300+ shares so I would be really pissed off if they've all 'dissapeared'...

Do I need to email to the specified email address or do we wait until GLBSE gives more info?
(It 'll take a while to figure out when I bought what, probably not gonna work cause I don't have any transaction files)


Hope the ASIC's will come soon! Smiley



Why do you think someone with the api url can steal your funds? I dont see what you mean.

Guess username and password, 2fa cannot be done over the API, and there is no read only API.
497  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: DiabloMiner GPU Miner (LP, BFI_INT, async nw, multipool, 79xx GCN) on: October 13, 2012, 12:56:15 AM
why cant i use coinlab with Diablominer? It keeps saying unknown source.

What is coinlab?
498  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Diablo Mining Company (DMC) [140.1 gh] [6.700 mh/share] on: October 07, 2012, 04:40:12 PM

In the end, DMC gets scammed, stolen from, victimized, and now I can't even safely shut it down.

It's sad that DMC and all the others have fallen victim to GLBSE's shutdown. Nefario is far from anonymous, and enough people are involved in GLBSE that he surely wouldn't get away with defrauding GLBSE's users. US users obviously won't have much ground to stand on in a lawsuit against him, though.

As for DMC's situation, if Nefario gives shareholders a way to uniquely confirm to you that they own a specific number of DMC shares, you will be able to buy them back. We'll just have to wait and see.

I'm predicting a situation where ALL assets previously listed on GLBSE will take the course of Goat's assets. That would seriously suck for both the asset issuers and the asset holders, but it would put you in a position to be able to shut DMC down safely.

There's been some drama between DMC, Nefario, and others in the past. I implore you to make your best effort to make the shut-down process as painless as possible for the shareholders, Diablo.

The situation is complex because all of our assets held are ON glbse. The most important of the two are BTCMC and ASICMINER, and yochdog and friedcat are both trying to figure out how to fix it for their shareholders.

An even bigger problem is I need to sell my BTCMC stake, and without GLBSE I can't. That would have provided enough money to buy back around 2/3rds of the shares still out there, the rest could have been mopped up with the upcoming ASICMINER dividends.

I think if you look up "nothing has gone right" in the dictionary, DMC will be the example given.
499  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Diablo Mining Company (DMC) [140.1 gh] [6.700 mh/share] on: October 06, 2012, 02:13:25 AM
GLBSE user funds are more or less safe, but I have bad news from the GLBSE shareholder meeting.

Nefario has, without a shareholder motion and in violation of the bylaws and GLBSE ToS, decided to close down GLBSE. Users will be able to collect deposits only after submitting identity info. A similar system to the one that Goat was forced to use will be provided so that assets can be traded elsewhere.

He is also illegally using user deposits to pay for his lawyer. If he continues, the GLBSE cash reserves (which I manage) will not be enough to cover costs and GLBSE will be in debt to users.

I'm very sorry about this, but those shareholders who are sane are helpless against Nefario and the insane shareholders who for some mind-boggling reason think that closing down GLBSE in this way will help both themselves and GLBSE users.

Since Nefario refuses to give complete details about his legal concerns and he has been acting strangely, I feel that it is somewhat possible that Nefario is working under some sort of plea bargain and is gathering IDs for future prosecution.

Nefario has defrauded me and others in several different ways and deserves a scammer tag.
- The BitcoinGlobal bylaws state that BitcoinGlobal's purpose is to operate GLBSE. By shutting down GLBSE without amending the bylaws, Nefario has violated the bylaws.
- He has stated that he would ignore any motion to remove him as CEO.
- He is knowingly making BitcoinGlobal shares worthless, violating his fiduciary duty.
- He is refusing to release my GLBSE balance without my ID, which I did not agree to.

Since my GLBSE shares are now worthless, it should be obvious that I had no knowledge of this before now.

I urge everyone to never work with Nefario again. A Bitcoin stock exchange is a good idea, though. I hope that someone will create something better than GLBSE and MPEx.

So now it all becomes clear.

In the end, DMC gets scammed, stolen from, victimized, and now I can't even safely shut it down.
500  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 06, 2012, 02:04:03 AM
Well considering that Theymos is part owner GLBSE, and the scams listed were perpetrated by GLBSE in an official capacity, shouldn't Theymos get a scammer tag too?

No, simply because nefario clearly was not involving the board. He did not follow their orders, he did not communicate with them, and now no one knows why the site is down.

I don't blame Theymos for selling his share in GLBSE, its a sinking ship.
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