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201  Economy / Economics / Re: A huge test of the majority peoples feeling about deflation on: July 31, 2012, 08:43:37 PM
hm? Bitcoin supply has been inflating and will continue to inflate for a couple of decades.

Are you talking about falling "prices" maybe? If so: the reason is not deflation. Maybe inflation of USD, but certainly not deflation of bitcoin.

Deflation = falling prices in an economy.  And as stated above my hunch is an increase in popularity that is out pacing the growing supply of bitcoins.

202  Economy / Economics / Re: A huge test of the majority peoples feeling about deflation on: July 31, 2012, 03:10:54 PM
With difficulty rise quickly in a couple of weeks, miners will see their BTC production speed decrease very quickly, so in terms of BTC income, it is getting less and less everyday (unless they keep expanding the mining scale)

Regardless of the reducing reward size, with exception of the bubble last summer, the currency has been deflating for a while.

or they feel more comfortable with decreased amount of BTC income at a increased value?

And people are more comfortable having a savings account that makes less interest than inflation?  Why does the only way to avoid inflation have to involve the risky/complicated stock market?  I think it makes a lot more sense to be able to put money in a savings account & have it worth the same or more later even w/o interest.  You shouldn't have to take on so much risk to save your hard earned money.  This only allows the rich to keep getting richer because they are the only ones w/ access to stock advisers & financial planners to make sure their savings doesn't become worthless.  At the very least I should be able to stash cash in my mattress & have it be worth the same years later.  People are stuck with the mentality that if my savings is going to be worth less tomorrow I might as well spend it today.  Now none of these people have safety nets in case things go bad.  And for critics that claim this will cause people to hoard their money, I still have to buy things.  I can't live without food, water, safety, shelter, transportation, etc.
203  Economy / Economics / Re: Biggest Scam Ever!! on: July 31, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
Even with bitcoin, fractional reserve banking will most likely exist. …

True, but there is a decisive difference between fiat money and bitcoin.

I couldn't agree more.  The videos just seemed to focus on fractional reserve banking being one of the main culprits which I highly disagree with.  The main culprits are our government's ability to print money, control interest rates, and disallow competing currencies.  The videos do touch on these issues as well - they just don't feel like the main focus.
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Brain Wallet standardization on: July 31, 2012, 01:36:28 PM
One good little piece of standardization I'm seeing that has developed is that both brainwallet.org and bitaddress.org use SHA256(passphrase) for their single address generation. Now we just could use some standardization for the deterministic wallet idea. I really don't like how Electrum won't let you make your own passphrase.

I haven't tried importing private keys into bitcoind(-qt) yet, but its pretty easy to sha256sum a phrase & feed it into brainwallet or bitaddress to get the private & public keys.  There's also a few transaction makers out there that will even give you the raw transaction (most only support sending the full balance tho - be careful or you might end up giving the miner a huge fee).  Now I just need to figure out how to send that transaction out.  I think bitcoind(-qt) is working on it since I saw they have a sendrawtransaction method.  I also heard electrum will do it.  I think blockchain will send it for a fee.  Then you don't even ever have to import or create a wallet & the private key can be stored on an offline computer the whole time.
205  Economy / Economics / Re: Biggest Scam Ever!! on: July 30, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
I love these videos, but wish they focused more on fact than speculation.

Even with bitcoin, fractional reserve banking will most likely exist.  I realize that if I have extra bitcoins, I can make money off them by lending them out.  And some will choose to give it to a bank who will lend it out for them in return for interest.  And yes there will be a risk that they will make bad loans.  You will have to choose a reputable bank with an interest rate that matches your level of riskiness or not invest at all.  Obviously today with the FED controlling rates & everything being FDIC insured, the interest rates aren't much better than stuffing your mattress.  But w/o that regulation & those safe guards, lending will show its true colors of riskiness.  And the ability to get a loan will be much more difficult since the government won't be able to bail anyone out.  Then people will start living a lot closer to their means.  And these financial bubbles will disappear.
206  Economy / Economics / Re: How much do you value your credit score? on: July 26, 2012, 06:59:50 PM
Nothing wrong with it, I just don't want one.

I wouldn't mind being in a financial state where I wouldn't have to rely on one.  Once I have the equity of a house, I could be there.  But to be honest, as long as credit card rewards exist, I'll have one regardless if I need it or not.  Although if someone is offering product X for 3-5% less using bitcoins/cash, I'd choose that option over credit card rewards.
207  Economy / Economics / Re: Could a parallel bitcoin economy thrive during a global crisis? on: July 26, 2012, 04:39:31 PM
Could a parallel bitcoin economy thrive during a economical/financial global crisis?

Sure

Or do you think the bitcoin economy is tied in with the rest of the economy, meaning it too would be affected negatively by a global economical/financial crisis?

Although I personally believe governments greatly magnify our current issues, a crisis could still form that negatively affects bitcoin.  Bitcoin can't escape natural disasters.  Insurance companies could crumble in those situations because they can't afford the payouts.  Now policyholders of those failed companies are forced to spend money that would have gone towards vacations, jewelry, or investments on repairing their house/vehicle or medical expenses.  The housing & medical fields may temporarily boom while other industries falter.  Then college students may over-saturate those markets just as people are done repairing their homes or getting out of rehab.  Now there's a shortage of other industries, temporarily driving prices up.  The cycle is never ending.
208  Economy / Economics / Re: How much do you value your credit score? on: July 26, 2012, 04:17:27 PM
What's wrong with a credit score?  For the people that rely on credit, I think it is a good/effective system.  When I got my first job, I couldn't afford to pay cash for a reliable vehicle to get there.  Thanks to the credit score system, I was able to get a reliable vehicle because the bank trusted me with the money due to the transactions I had with previous people.  And my credit score was only based on having credit cards that I paid off every month.  I personally think it has benefited me a lot.

The economy also benefits from it by matching riskiness w/ interest rates & not loaning money to people that have had issues paying it back in the past.
209  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ayn rand on: July 26, 2012, 04:06:44 PM
I'm not going to lie, your post isn't very coherent.  But if your question is what do people see in her books, I might be able to answer that.  I personally can relate with her books.  In Atlas, her vision of the future is my vision of the future.  I don't think our current government operates in the best interest of its people.  Too much regulation crushes productivity & innovation.  When less than 100% are in charge, it makes it easier & easier for them to be bribed or just plain bias.  Her dream world is my dream world.  And bitcoin gets us that much closer in my opinion.  But you'll definitely find people on this forum that detest her ideals.  I'm not sure if they dislike bitcoin as well or see it as a way to promote their own society.
210  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How does ancap deal with an oil spill? on: July 26, 2012, 03:41:17 PM
What happens? Who pays to clean up? Who pays reparations to all of the people affected (e.g. fishermen who just lost their jobs)? Would their be any concern for all of the life destroyed?

Why wouldn't it be in the oil company's best interest to cap the well?  If I'm losing money every day because of it, I'm going to repair it ASAP so I can continue making money off of it.  Even if my company is too broke, I'd sell it to another company for a price that would make it worth salvaging.  An oil spill is also bad press.  I don't want people to stop using my product because I've ruined their beaches.  There are a lot of incentives for the company to fix it as soon as possible.

Assuming the explosion makes it unsalvageable and I don't care about my reputation because my company is broke or I'm in a remote area, then there is a higher likelihood the problem would not be fixed.  But the citizens of the beaches that are affected could come together and donate money to an operation to try & cap the well or filter the water coming into the beach.  Or companies could buy the beaches, filter the water, and charge a fee to use it.  I believe natural oil spills occur as well where there is no one to blame & the same problems would arise.
211  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-07-22/2012-03-31 ssrn.com/Temple Uni - Nerdy Money: Bitcoin, the Private on: July 23, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
Most of the paper is devoted to bitcoin's legal status.  I personally don't think it matters so I didn't care much for the paper.
212  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin London Conference 2012 on: July 20, 2012, 04:05:40 PM
We are rapidly moving into a world where the return on investment from violence is negative not positive like it has been for the past 500 years of the Industrial Age.

Couldn't agree more.  In fact, I'd argue trade has always been more profitable.  Why would you give money to war when you could buy more food, shelter, etc?  Because you previously didn't have a choice.  Bitcoin changes all of that.  Gold can be stolen, bank accounts can be frozen, but bitcoins can be stored in my mind!
213  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is spreading! on: July 18, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
If only those had a remote turn on/record feature, they'd be perfect Tongue

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20603738&postcount=2095

But doesn't look easy.  The poster should setup shop.  I'd pay double to have it automatically turn on/record with power.  I've found a few dash cams on Amazon for $60 that probably use the same parts, but are too large & obvious because they have IR lights & LCDs.  Just asking to have your car broken into.  No one would think twice about a tiny key chain remote on my dash.
214  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialized Medicine on: July 18, 2012, 06:33:15 PM
Then you think wrong, it's socialism because the payments shared between employees - old or young. And I am pretty much forced to get it or I wont be able in the future because of so called "prexisting condition".

Well, I hate to say it, but in a bitcoin world, a "preexisting condition" clause will still exist.  Although, I'd argue healthcare in general would be cheaper (because the govt won't exist) so people could afford to live w/o insurance.  Otherwise you better hope bitcoin dies a quick death so you can continue to ride the wave of socialism.  In the meantime, if I had a preexisting condition that prevented me from getting insurance, I'd move to Canada or Europe.
215  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin London Conference 2012 on: July 18, 2012, 06:20:53 PM
-how taxes would work in a bitcoin dominated world
Depends on what you mean:
- what the state should do to continue taxing people

+1

Will taxing people still be possible?
Will all other currencies suffer a hyperinflation death?
216  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't we just create backing for Bitcoin? on: July 18, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
Set up an organization that accepts donations from community members. All donations will be put in gold (alternatively a basket of commodities/government currencies), and the organization will announce that it will forever pay out exactly x gold grams for 1 Bitcoin.

I've heard a lot of bad ideas on this forum, but this one takes the cake.
217  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialized Medicine on: July 18, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
Employer-based, group insurance is socialized medicine, because the employees as a group pay for a substantial portion of the healthcare of the sick members of the employee group...

Since when is insurance socialism?  When I think of socialism I think of a monopolized system I'm forced to pay for.  There are multiple insurance companies & and in most industries it is optional.  How is that socialism?  I'll agree that they share similarities that you previously pointed out, but the similarities stop there.  I definitely agree that most healthcare is very socialized, but insurance companies are one of the few reasons it isn't.
218  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Done something nice today? Sorry, someone else did that! on: July 18, 2012, 03:27:43 PM
I was wondering where this meme came from.  Definitely taken out of context.  Regardless, what was he even getting at?  His job is to represent me.  If he really wanted to represent me, he'd set up a website where I could vote for myself.  I will never understand why we still vote for people to "represent" us.  No one in the world can represent me.  I'm tired of voting for the best fundraiser, speaker, debater, etc.  Those people aren't qualified to decided anything.
219  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is spreading! on: July 17, 2012, 08:05:36 PM
Cool, but $300?  I'll pass.  Just get a $35 808 #16 cam instead.
220  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you pay taxes if you could live off bitcoins? on: July 09, 2012, 02:34:56 AM
I already live off of bitcoins and I pay taxes. This thread is ignorant because it assumes that Bitcoin will eliminate localized currencies, which is highly illogical for numerous reasons, and in addition forgets that people are already choosing to pay taxes to the network and pretty much every product and service provider in Bitcoin.

I wasn't assuming the elimination of localized currencies as much as anonymity & full control over your money.  And the taxes/fees I was referring to were the mandatory ones imposed by current governments onto its citizens for its services.
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