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981  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMiner Tube Sales Information Thread on: August 13, 2014, 11:16:03 PM
What fan do we get? (this determines db, so matters for us in home miners).
doggie says it's very quiet...

I turned everything else off during a maintenance and okay, its less quiet than I thought, but its still very quiet. Its constant RPM as far as I can tell (40C same sound as 20C) and is extremely reasonable. I'd have these in a living room or bedroom noise wise.
got a db noise meter? even an app on a smart phone might be good enough...
982  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk Advertising Email Received - Need Confirmation on: August 13, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
I got one of these emails today...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha


Now I'm intrigued, care to share what you wanted the add for? I can't imagine them turning down anything, even if they are scammers.
I kid you not!  but, I won't reveal that here anyways.  not necessary.

Fair play, going to bug me for a while haha.

Quote
We received the following message and have had the following conversation from the email address bitcointalk.ads@gmail.com and as always we are very cautious.  The sender is purported to be from bitcoin talk and selling ad space for a reasonable price in a prominent spot. 

On topic though, I would have never even bothered to reply to someone who sent me an email like this. It screams scam right from the start, theymos wouldn't have time to send out emails offering ad-spots, would just be a big waste of his time when he can manage everything through the forum.
the only way to try to expose them is to engage and sniff them out.
983  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk Advertising Email Received - Need Confirmation on: August 13, 2014, 11:01:48 PM
I got one of these emails today...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha


Now I'm intrigued, care to share what you wanted the add for? I can't imagine them turning down anything, even if they are scammers.
I kid you not!  but, I won't reveal that here anyways.  not necessary.
984  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Banners (<-- Subject of a SCAM email) on: August 13, 2014, 10:58:44 PM
I see...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha  I was refused by a scammer... Sad

Hmmm I am not sure if thats a good or a bad sign. Maybe they saw your post here?
nah, too close in posts.  wouldn't have gotten indexed and they did not know they emailed me, canary in the first place.
I'm pretty sure they shit their pants Smiley
985  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMiner Tube Sales Information Thread on: August 13, 2014, 10:57:13 PM
What fan do we get? (this determines db, so matters for us in home miners).
doggie says it's very quiet...
986  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] ASICMiner Tube Group Buy #1 on: August 13, 2014, 10:56:37 PM
Do you have any instructions as far as putting the "kit" together?

I'm just wondering as far as if it will require any soldering?  Or if it is a friendly build kit.
it looks like you assemble it without soldering.

Based on lit of contents, I think it goes like this:

- assemble blades: install thermal pads onto pcb, attach heatsink.
- installed assembled into the cooling structure (cage)
- cross-connect serial wires. (up to 32 blades can be linked together)
- install the fan on the cage, connect power to one of the blades.
- connect Ethernet controller to one of the serial ports
- connect power and turn on.

I think that a step by step guide (pictorial) would be made rather quickly by those who receive their Tubes first.

Here's a video that shows assembly, except the thermal paste in the video is replaced with a thermal pad in the kit for sale.  Looks pretty easy:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3U4ZHTmeKk

That actually looks super easy. The thermal pad I assume replaces the weird step with the machine I suspect.

Canary - any word on the box this will fit in for the shipping label?
exactly right on the thermal pad.

waiting on info from fc... they are checking with factory on how they're gonna package this up.  there's a possibility that each kit will come in it's own box.  so just unpack and assemble.  as soon as I have all dimensions I will post here.
987  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Banners (<-- Subject of a SCAM email) on: August 13, 2014, 10:51:40 PM
I see...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha  I was refused by a scammer... Sad
988  Other / Meta / Re: BitcoinTalk phishing scam! on: August 13, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
I got one of these emails today...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha
989  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Possible Warning about Scam? on: August 13, 2014, 10:47:37 PM
I got one of these emails today...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha
990  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk Advertising Email Received - Need Confirmation on: August 13, 2014, 10:47:17 PM
I got one of these emails today...

I played along, but after they saw which business I wanted the add for, they told me they weren't interested in selling me an add
Bwhahahahahaha
991  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] ASICMiner Tube Group Buy #1 on: August 13, 2014, 10:06:31 PM
At 0.9 J/GH, a full miner would come out to 720-765 Watts, correct?

Using 800 GH/s and 720W over at https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator shows me that network growth would have to average only 10% in order to turn a profit. (This is assuming it takes 20 days from today to start hashing).

I'm on the fence.

no depends on the psu you use.   say your 800gh pulling 720 watts from the psu.  if your psu is  90%  it will pull 800 watts from the wall plug.  So my guess is an evga 1300 watt psu will read 800 at the kwatt  meter.

so some of the cheaper price is lost back on power.

if compared to a s-3   but for  much less price say 100 dollar less then 2 s-3's  you burn  back 50 cents a day in power or 15 usd a month extra for power.  so after 6 months the s-3 is better.

bottom line is   btc needs to go up in price  after you take delivery on this gear.

I do my roi in usd not btc  since I pay tax and do not want to face IRS issues.

the 1.04 btc is cheaper today in USD vs. couple days ago Smiley
buy 1.04 btc with USD instead of using your mined btc.
992  Other / Meta / Bitcointalk Banners (<-- Subject of a SCAM email) on: August 13, 2014, 09:54:04 PM
received this:

-----------------following email-----------------
From: Bitcoin Talk <bitcointalk.ads@gmail.com>
Date: August 13, 2014 at 4:28:20 PM CDT
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Bitcointalk Banners

Hello, we are opening two slots 728x90 for advertising in Bitcointalk.org

Totally 2 banners in rotation and both of them are placed

Banner size - 728x90, displayed in all forum pages.

Price per one slot is 0.7 BTC per month. 2 slots together will cost 1.2 BTC

If you want 2 banners, they can be different style, but must have same link.

Best Regards
--------------------end-----------------------

To the best of my knowledge theymos sells ads on the forum via auction...

This email was sent to an email addy I registered for a business in a directory for accepting bitcoins.  So scammers are harvesting info via "bitcoin accepted here" business directories and are attempting to scam.
993  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] ASICMiner Tube Group Buy #1 on: August 13, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
CITM,

PCIe power connectors. It looks like there are 2 per board and each connector is 6 pins?

TIA
yep, looks that way on all the pics...

-edit: added a link to more pics at bottom of OP
994  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmaintech's Antminer S3+ vs. Spondoolies-Tech's SP30 Yukon on: August 13, 2014, 05:08:54 PM
Good question, why would anyone want to invest in mining hardware from now on forward? OK, some are just stupid, others may think it's fun (is it?), and the kiddies think it does not matter with something like "free energy" (THERE IS NO FREE ENERGY) in mind.

While I agree there is no "free" energy, there are a number of apartment complexes (not dormitories) where electricity is included in the rent. So while I consider the energy "free" from an ROI perspective, I still count it as part of my mining expenses from a tax perspective.
and in most of these apartments, are you able to run the SP30?  I doubt there's a proper circuit and a sound-proof dedicated room Smiley

but, winter is coming... heating included!!
995  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmaintech's Antminer S3+ vs. Spondoolies-Tech's SP30 Yukon on: August 13, 2014, 02:29:05 PM
The real question you might ask is why would anyone in their right mind spend over USD 3K in the hope of making a few hundred bucks after a year when there is so much uncertainty in the ROI equation.

The risk/reward ratio seriously discourages any mining by people who have to pay retail prices for equipment and electricity.
That and friedcat has released the tube
996  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmaintech's Antminer S3+ vs. Spondoolies-Tech's SP30 Yukon on: August 13, 2014, 02:23:36 PM
What am I missing? How does sp30 win any way you turn the coin?
Max profit for each of the 3 calculations is what?

Also, you are in fantasy land with 20% increase per month assumption.  You should use 35 as bare minimum and with next increases coming, it wouldn't surprise me to see a LARGE jump soon.

Why is this important? Because of salvage value.  How many people will want to buy your used s3 vs sp30?  You'll get a marginally higher resale price with s3, not sp30
997  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] ASICMiner Tube Group Buy #1 on: August 13, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Do you have any instructions as far as putting the "kit" together?

I'm just wondering as far as if it will require any soldering?  Or if it is a friendly build kit.
it looks like you assemble it without soldering.

Based on lit of contents, I think it goes like this:

- assemble blades: install thermal pads onto pcb, attach heatsink.
- installed assembled into the cooling structure (cage)
- cross-connect serial wires. (up to 32 blades can be linked together)
- install the fan on the cage, connect power to one of the blades.
- connect Ethernet controller to one of the serial ports
- connect power and turn on.

I think that a step by step guide (pictorial) would be made rather quickly by those who receive their Tubes first.

Here's a video that shows assembly, except the thermal paste in the video is replaced with a thermal pad in the kit for sale.  Looks pretty easy:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3U4ZHTmeKk
998  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary coin color on: August 13, 2014, 04:24:10 AM
Dark blue
Other colors "interfere" green with donator for ex...
Unless you are going to permit 2 colored coins for a donator/VIP etc...?

They're slightly different colors.
If both coins are next to each other, I think it would be easy to spot the difference...
But if they're not, different shades of green or purple/violet could look the same.
999  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary coin color on: August 13, 2014, 04:20:10 AM
Dark blue
Other colors "interfere" green with donator for ex...
Unless you are going to permit 2 colored coins for a donator/VIP etc...?
1000  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMiner Tube Sales Information Thread on: August 13, 2014, 04:17:16 AM
I think the be200 chip is 40nm.
Anybody know what the be300 chip will be?
28nm, 20nm...
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