Well you demonstrated that you have no clue about anything at all. You as well are a nutter for this utter nonsense. BTC Supply is in fact limited, the miners will have to use the same energy for produce less and less coins. If I remember correctly the time b4 the absolute max supply reached is not the post important time because even b4 that the production will be so expensive at some point that the price will go up. You little childish BS "myth because it can be divided" is really the stupidest thing I heard in a long time.

BTC as opposed to any FIAT is actually limited. The Banks can just print and print more and more money and hyper-inflate to completely make money worthless. This can NOT happen with BTC. In FIAT the supply is unlimited because all the money that exists is nothing more then DEPT! Look at the national dept counters of countries, they race up every milliseconds for unthinkable amounts. FIAT is backed by absolutely nothing. Long term BTC will go up, because if the actual factual scarcity it has and because adoption will rise. But it will not be short term and not as extreme as McAffee claims.

You desperate people are so CONSUMED by your hope that you loose every clear thought. His prediction is total and utter BS. He thinks he can attract a few people people to buy into BTC so his own stock goes up. Turns out one little bullshit man is doing shit for the BTC price.

I actually like his mindset and his libertarian-ism. At the same time I get why the libertarian party hates him. He spouts to much BS! He is also super crazy, it would not surprise me if he actually did kill his neibour in Belize. He faked a heart attack to get out of there ... .

Remember him selling his "unhackable" wallet? Shortly after some hackers got DOOM running on that thing. Bahahaha. He tells so much bullshit. Why would you buy into his utterly stupid predictions?

Dude you give me some youtube channel where the last upload was a months ago talking about getting out at 14k. Seriously? I asking about the current fall and what the chances are that is continues to fall and this is not helping.

I am in for the long run and I did make my fair profit but also lost quite a lot by getting into masternodes and a little switching my ETH into DAI and back at a loss. I am just asking for short term to not just watch BTC at 6k in a few days and get angry at myself. I can always go back, its just that the switching alone coasts money. So if many reputable people are predicting its going back up in 2 days I will just hold my fingers still and do nothing. I just do not watch it fall any more. I am already angry that I missed that big fall but I guess there was nothing really I could do it was in just on hour or so right? Or were the warnings, I was not prepared to fast move it anyway. I guess I should be.

I know nobody can predict it but I am wondering if I should move my BTC into a stablecoin now in fear of losing more or if I will get angry when I lose the trading fees and then watch it go back up again. That happened to me b4 actually.

Also sidequestion what it the a cheap and fast way to move into a stablecoin that is supported on the Ledner nano S.

I am not defending them or saying its not their fake names. BUT you make it sound like you have proof that they are the spammers. What about the scammers just took some photos from the internet? The took a programmer and painted him as a tax manager. I mean if they just took people they did a crappy job.

Bullshit alert!

Dudes leave this forum for any trades, you WILL get scammed and this guy is a scammer! Read my feedback on this trust. Nobody got or will ever get a Pizza.

Seriously guys I mean I got scammed on the very first trade here so It may be a bit, but just ridiculous of me to say this but I came here for a very specific trade. PP for BTC.

Why in the hell would you use this forum for a simple currency exchange from the tow two cryptos? I mean there are services and sites WITH ESCROW AND SECURITY for this like sand on the ocean. AFAIK the easiest and do not even requited registration but have higher fees. But of course you should pay some fees rather then then some stranger coins here.

You are just stupid read WAY TOO much stuff into things because you got scammed.

I happen to come back here because BTC shooted up and I have currently I reason I can not buy with Bank account directly so I wanted to buy with PP thats it. This absolutely retarded thinking, is so stupid. "Oh he came back after a pause, he must be suspicious" but that idiot logic nobody ever can have a pause and come back to the forum because they will automatically come back as a scammer. This is a legit account and all I ever did it expose shady coins with this, never even traded, never got any reviews neither positive not negative bit I for sure must be a scammer because I actually have a brain unlike you.

And what so strange about willing to do small amounts first? What do I gain from this? So I need to chargeback many many small amounts instead of just setting someone 2000€ at once and let them send me the BTC and then just to one chargeback?

In fact THAT VERY MEASURE of me doing a small trade first so see if it checked out SAVED ME. Because I only send $45 with friends and family and NOT went straight with 2000 or even more so you STFU!

See you proven yet again that you are absolutely totally retarded.

And I am new here apart from just trading with people I do not know how to get trust so I just asked but that such a red flag in your stupid head.

This Forum seems to be total cancer. Visually and from what you find here.

"largely to the factors in this topic"

Excuse me WTF? I try to warn people because I got scammed and some fucking idiot wants to flag me, claims I refused to accept PayPal? I had exactly one trade on this forum where i was scammed. You are fucking retarded. You never traded with me, and its just happens that I am (or WAS I think I am done with this forum). Some people really ... unbelievable. So as a thank you for warning people I get accused for using the method I am warning about, yeah makes total sense. Flag me you utter and complete idiot!

And how about you prove that I "refuse to accept" PayPal. I just happen to want to trade the other way around.

And on topic: I do not think I was logged into my VPN when doing the trade, also the guy who acted as a negotiator who did bring me to send money to a account for another person actually claims he will pay me back some time next month I will see if that happens.

Yeah this might be obvious but I did not think about it as I had other things about the trade in my head.

Why is the forum and people warning everything here a million times about PayPal charge-backs when you can get scammed the exact other way around because from what I saw you can not charge-back those.

Please pin this or add it to this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0 and that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594959.0 topic.

Fucking bullshit.

Could do do me a favor and message me if anyone takes you up in this offer. I am laughing my ass off if someone takes 40% in BTC for 100% PP money.

Trusted users preferred, I have USD and EUR directly on my PP. I like to start with small amounts and if I trust you go higher and buy more.

I like to buy BTC for multiple thousands of EUR but as I said I am not going to send someone that right away. I am sending a small amount first and when I get the BTC we can go higher.

If there is anything I can to to get more trust here please let me know, I have to start somewhere and I have no trust at this time. You can see my posts ranting about BTC crash and exposing shitty masternode coins but that's it. Not a newbie on the forum but not every active.

Post your exchange rate and the amount of BTC you want to sell in EUR or USD.

Just in case you do not find anyone, I do not think I am "trusted" but I am willing to buy it from you, in fact I am looking to buy more BTC with PayPal right now. What exchange rate?

Thanks guys but I was hoping for a little handholding not this totally vague generalized advice. I really do know almost nothing about trading. I mean thanks again this is valuable info and I already knew most of what was said but ...

The suggestion to "just pick a coin that you like and trade it" seems not very good to me. I like Monero as a coin because its probably the best private coin out there. But it seems really tight to BTC like most coin, not sure how I could make a profit by trading it.

Where do I for example find news about new upcoming coins or coins that have something groundbreaking coming up that might increase the price. Or just coins with high volume that are good to trade but are actually NOT so closely tied to BTC that I just can make some good guesses they are going back up when I buy them low. Something like that.

There has to be some trade community or something that is not just a scam but actual people who have experience and share their knowledge.

https://longforecast.com/bitcoin-price-predictions-2017-2018-2019-btc-to-usd says its will be arround $1000 december next year. I do not know how reliable this site but but its constantly update based in some calculations. Yesterday it hat $900 at the same place I think.

I think I should rather believe that then in some idiots who claim $15000 by the end of the year (some bitcoin Guru claimed that). I am fucking sick of this I already lost money by fleeing into stablecoins when I thought the button was reached. At like 3700. Then I got into BTC and ETH again when BTC was like 3800 because I thought its going back up again. And now its falling again and I should just stay in the fucking stablecoins. My actions causing me even more losses. Fucking Crypto I should get out at the beginning off the year. And ETH is has even fallen quite a lot more in the last 24h. And I of course have more in ETH this time. Its like I am cursed. Fucking masternodes all losing value like crazy that they will of course never regain even when BTC gets back up.

I do have a job I should focus more on but I like to have a few trades when I do not have to stressfully look at the prices every hour. I have seen all this Discord groups and Websites where you can sign up for "signals". The idea that I just have someone tell me. "Buy this then, sell it then" sounds way to good to be true for me. On the other hand I know that there are traders with insights that this might be possible.

I do not want to get rich fast and I am very discouraged by this stupid marketing claims like 1000% RIO and stuff like that. I just want to trade some as save as possible trades and make a little money while doing so. I do not want to me a crazy daytrader who watches prices every day and gets anxiety from it. I did got that recently with BTC and I hope its really not falling anymore.

I am fine paying a small monthly fee for some trader community but I do not them to expect from me that I want to be a there every single day and I do not want to do this as a full time job.

Any suggestions?

Is a understatement. How about "Almost perfectly transparent?" I mean almost all exchanges that let you buy BTC with FIAT require your Name and Address or even your gov ID and then there are this companies who specialize in tracking BTC.  They KNOW what exchanges generate what Addresses for some reason or the other. I once read a article where they showed the flows of thousands or millions of addresses from exchanges like localbitcoins, coinbase, you name it. It totally blew my mind. But in fact is should not, just because I do not know exactly how they do it. I think they have some ways without it to track so some extend but ALSO they may already have "deals" or forced secret deals with the exchanges are not allowed to talk about that mandate exchanges to give the NSA every BTC address to a person without any court at all. Some FISA rubber stamped bullshit. They in the past just went after the big fishes but its changing you watch.

Check this out, just a quick search https://www.elliptic.co/

Or THIS: https://www.thedailybeast.com/irs-now-has-a-tool-to-unmask-bitcoin-tax-cheats look at the date of that article.  OK they said 8002 in 2015 I said 2016 or 2017 b4 excuse me. Probably exploded by now. You guys for sure are all fine with funding your countries wars to kill mostly innocent people somewhere or at least participate in it by supplying the weapons and logistics and overspending on other BS and make that Political and Financial Elite classes even richer. You for sure all want that to happen. Crypto should have the #1 priority to keep governments out. To help good organizations like Wikileaks to get their funds without them even knowing about how much they get and from who. And they do take Monero yey https://shop.wikileaks.org/donate that is what people should use. I feel like a Monero shill right now, would it make it just funny or hypocritical if I would tell you I never owned any of it