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Good job and perfect organisation by Zefir!
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I forwarded all my chips to BURNIN!
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can't wait to see this in action! See you monday!
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testsieger;50;4.3;1F7aPwhDyAJ8qFeLhVywg6pL1Wr7BpnCJb
I am in! thank you for your work!!!!
Burnin is der burner!
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hat nun eigentlich schon einmal jemand burnin in Hamburg besucht.
Ja, testsieger, ein Mitglied hier aus dem Gruppenkauf. Er hat, glaube ich mich zu erinnern, auch im deutschen und englischen Thread darüber berichtet... er war zufrieden und hat nichts gefunden was ihn zweifeln ließ... Hat er auch Bilder gepostet? Ich find seinen Post gerade nicht hier im Thread... Ich glaube nicht... ich habe jetzt mal gesucht... er hatte zwei mal gepostet aber in Englisch. Einmal in burnins Thread und einmal in zefirs Gruppenkauf... ich dachte er hatte das auch hier gepostet... aber gut dann verlinke ich das mal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg2214443#msg2214443Ich werde ihn noch mal fragen ob er auch Fotos gemacht hat... Moin Jungs, klar habe ich Bilder gemacht, war ja auch so angekündigt. Burnin hat mir auch -ohne ihn dazu auffordern zu müssen- seine Dokumente vorgelegt. Ich werde diese Bilder aber nicht publizieren, wenn hier alles glatt läuft. Seine Personalien sind ja nur für den Fall zu veröffentlichen, dass es einen Betrug geben sollte. In einem anderen post hatte ich ja auch schon erwähnt, dass ich ihn völlig unterstütze. LG aus HH testsieger |
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I am the guy who visited "burnin" and checked that he is a real person.
I personally trust burnin just like that - but it's a bit funny to me that the person that "checked" him is a junior member with 16 posts. I was expecting some old hand. Who will now "check" testsieger?  buy me a flight to germany and i'll check anybody ya like.  (i'm in the US. heh.) I am the "checker" cause I´m living in Hamburg. Zefir and SebastianJu ( and burnin as well now) know my identity.... cause I send them my company web page address. @arklan: no problem:) come to Germany and we´ll drive on the Autobahn to give you a definition of speed... |
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Burnin hat meine volle Unterstützung. Ich war ja vor dem Besuch etwas mehr als skeptisch. Ich habe 2 GmbH zu leiten und bin auch schon dermaßen besch.... worden(nicht mit BTC), dass ich sehr vorsichtig geworden bin. Es gibt immer ein Restrisiko, was einem keiner abnehmen kann bzw., wäre es ohne Risiko, dann würde es jeder machen. Burnin schein mir ehrlich, hochkonzentriert, fast schon übervorsichtig in dem zu sein, was er macht. Der sagt kaum etwas, was nicht 100% belegbar ist. Seine Zeiteinschätzungen für die Produktion etc. sind sehr konservativ, die Kommunikation insgesamt verbesserungswürdig. Nur arbeitet der eben lieber, als zu labern. LG aus HH testsieger |
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I am the guy who visited "burnin" and checked that he is a real person.
I have following proofs now: (have them as pics which I took during the visit) the hard facts
1) german passport, with ID number, picture
2) Meldunsgbestätigung Einwohnermeldeamt. (certification of registartion of city Hamburg)
3) formation of a company documents from notary public and adress. This information will show up in a couple of days also in the Handelsregister(Company Registry) in Hamburg. The clients will order directly from this company the boards.
And in addition now the soft facts:
a) adress/website of the company wich will produce the boards for "burnin".
I checked the company turnover. They should have easily the capacity to do what we need and to do this in short time...and in a very good quality!
b) I saw his computer with the board design etc.
Well, I have a diploma in biology,immunology - but I´m able to recognize crap. I will stay in contact with him and also- if you wish- check the first prototypes.
c) personal impression of "burnin" as a person, facts about his qualification.
He has just got his german engineering degree in "Elektrotechnik"(no need to translate that - Vorsprung durch Technik!, Freude am Minen.) This guy is hard working, a bit shy, he knows what he is doing. I told him that he maybe needs a communication officer or a public relation manager.
I trust him and he is able to do it!
best regards
testsieger
In Heaven…
the mechanics are German ok!
the cooks are French
the police are British
the lovers are Italian
and everything is organized by the Swiss. ok!
In Hell…
the mechanics are French
the police are German
the cooks are British
the lovers are Swiss
and everything is organized by the Italians.
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I am the oguy who visited "burnin" and checked that he is a real person.
I have following proofs now: (have them as pics which I took during the visit) the hard facts
1) german passport, with ID number, picture
2) Meldunsgbestätigung Einwohnermeldeamt. (certification of registartion of city Hamburg)
3) formation of a company documents from notary public and adress. This information will show up in a couple of days also in the Handelsregister(Company Registry) in Hamburg. The clients will order directly from this company the boards.
And in addition now the soft facts:
a) adress/website of the company wich will produce the boards for "burnin".
I checked the company turnover. They should have easily the capacity to do what we need and to do this in short time...and in a very good quality!
b) I saw his computer with the board design etc.
Well, I have a diploma in biology,immunology - but I´m able to recognize crap. I will stay in contact with him and also- if you wish- check the first prototypes.
c) personal impression of "burnin" as a person, facts about his qualification.
He has just got his german engineering degree in "Elektrotechnik"(no need to translate that - Vorsprung durch Technik!, Freude am Minen.) This guy is hard working, a bit shy, he knows what he is doing. I told him that he maybe needs a communication officer or a public relation manager.
I trust him and he is able to do it!
Best regards
testsieger
In Heaven…
the mechanics are German ok!
the cooks are French
the police are British
the lovers are Italian
and everything is organized by the Swiss. ok!
In Hell…
the mechanics are French
the police are German
the cooks are British
the lovers are Swiss
and everything is organized by the Italians.
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What I understand from all these documents (I am German and sorry for my bad english):
1) Starting point is the Commerzbank in Bremen. They send a "warning" to the Staatsanwaltschaft(prosecutor) that Mr. H. draws money all days of the bitcoin-24 LTD account in cash and that this is probably the money of the clients.
Like also Mr. H. said in his declaration is that the Commerzbank was fully informed about the business of bitcoin-24.
Scenario: Mr. H. goes to the Commerzbank and draws cash from the account 50k €.... 2 days later 20k€....4 days later 35k €..... 2 days..
Doing this, you can get not only problems with the tax authorities, but also with the prosecutor cause of anti-terror, anti-mafia laws.
2) The Staatsanwaltschaft decided apparently:
probable:
a) this 23 old dj-guy is not intelligent enough to deal with responsability
b) maybe he is using client money for privat or he thinks this is correct or his money
c) he is a prof. scammer
d) maybe a+b+c together
a,b,c,d: we have to protect the clients!
less probable:
e) he finances with that money some illegal business/terrorism
f) money laundering for some criminal organisation...
e,f: we have seen more intelligent guys, but can be!
ALARM!!!!! We have to act!
What will be the most effectiv way to secure also the money of the polish account??? If we tell them, that he is scamming his clients....this will take weeks. So we will go for terrorism and money laundering.
UPDATE!!!! Sondermeldung!
zwei Aktenzeichen(id-numbers for the case...so you have something for your lawers):
290 JS 47630/12 wegen Geldwäscheverdacht
241 Js 380/13 wegen Betrugsverdacht
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Blockchaininfo is currently down and I can not verify the last payments, but from the posts the first batch is sold out. Payments done after the cut-off line will directly go into a second batch, that will be ordered as soon as the collected amount suffices the batch price.
DAMMIT!Yes DAMMIT! Yesterday some high professional workers destroyed the internet-cabel with a digger....so I am to late. testsieger; 120; 10,32; 1F7aPwhDyAJ8qFeLhVywg6pL1Wr7BpnCJbblockchain: 3aafe5bdf8039ef8527b8d5ec357111ff50a138846c1f912bd3878f294a34b67 |
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Bon, ba si ton cpu consomme normalement 65w à 10% et tout d´un coup 120w à 100% ... il faut le payer!
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The Commerzbank informed the Bremen police, that he used the money for him self and that this is probably the money of his clients. The Bremen police contacted the polish authorities and they closed his polish bank account.
That´s it. So, the money should be safe but under control of the authorities.
Personaly, i think that the guy is from Poland(german minority) and that´s the reason why he had an account in Poland. Also his written German sounds like that.
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Ich hatte auch schonmal Bitcoin als Zahlweise in meinem Onlineshop angegeben..... bis mein Steuerberater auf Nachfrage maulte.
Ich würde es aber trotzdem gerne wieder tun(niemand hatte damit etwas bestellt), um das Projekt zu unterstützen. Denn solange wir hier nur unter "uns" handeln, werden wir nichts Grundlegendes ändern.
Natürlich gibt es noch keine Shopsoftware, die einem das abmahnsicher bieten könnte. Also müsste alles über email und persönliche Bearbeitung laufen.
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Tu ne crois pas que le patron des 20k machines va remarquer qu´il doit plus payer à l´EDF?
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thats the first time i need... and down
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Well, i am german. Do you need a short info, what´s going on? |
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What does it cost? We all should ask us what does it cost, if we do not etablish an independend money system.....
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